Sooky

Hi thanks for the links etc he a German Shorthaired Pointer black and white :) I am sure I will find him a great new home he's so beautiful and good natured

Our other dog just wants to be with us and before pup came was indoors with us all the time unfortunately now they both get put out in garden all the time cause it's just too full on so once pup goes I can let my girl back in and I can't wait she was always my shadow and I miss her wandering about the house. I hate to admit that I'm struggling as I am very independent and always just GET ON with things but I can't carry on watching them bored in the garden and seeing my girl looking in just wanting to be with me. What we thought was going to be a good idea for everyone has turned out not to be so I admit defeat and pup has too go . I hate seeing people re homing their animals and never thought I'd be one of them just shows you never know what can happen.

Thanks so much for all the replies :)

That's a good idea not sure if there is one in SA but Ill find out and I'll contact his breeder she may know of someone :)

He has no issues he's a gorgeous boy very chilled but still a naughty puppy at times :). Didn't want to go into reasons but I will, we have a 2 year old vizsla who is the best dog ever and we knew we always wanted a second dog so towards the end of last year we were told about these pups and decided to go for it. A few weeks later my husband got a job offer in qld (we're in SA) it was too good to turn down as we are desperately trying to save for our own place. Anyway he's away for 4 weeks at a time (home for 1) and he was the one that walked them, they now never get out the back garden as I find it too hard to walk them with two little ones in tow plus with four kids in all I never have a minute plus we have horses which take up so much of my time and I'm not allowed to take the dogs to the stables and when I do get a spare few mins its to collapse on the sofa! It's easier with our older dog cause she's so well behaved on and off lead I can take her out with me a lot easier.

He's not desexed as I personally wouldn't have done that until he was over a year so that's another reason Gumtree wouldn't be a choice for me!

Thanks for the replies anyway I'll have to have a think about what to do I'm not in a rush but the sooner the better if only for him!

Not a registered one but is pure bred

Hi I. Not sure if this is allowed so hopefully someone can let me know. I am looking to re home my puppy but don't want to use places like Gumtree or Trading Post am I allowed to advertise him on here?

That's the most gorgeous thing I've seen in a long time brought a huge smile to my face thank you for posting :D

Doggylovers - have you tried the "look at that" game?

No but would love to hear more about that I'll try anything! If you'd prefer pm me :) i do try and get his attention have loads of treats try and make myself more interesting but once he's focused in on another dog he's like a heat seeking missile and won't look away until he's managed to meet it or it's away out of site!! The only saving grace is that he's friendly just with no manners!

I second Turid Rugaas stuff.

My dog likes watching the Calming Sigals DVD.

A polite dog greeting, involves a slow indirect circular approach, with some ground sniffing, some lip licking, much avoiding direct eye contact - ie looking anywhere but the dog they want to greet, and generally getting lower to the ground - to some this looks like an ambush stalk but if it's not a direct approach - its actually an attempt to appear small and non threatening.

My dog goes the whole hog, and will start crawling and roll over - ie the most friendly non threating invitation a dog can make. If the sniffing goes well, she may offer a play bow and invitation to play chasey or wrestle. Depends what the other dog says.

Unfortunately some dogs never learn body language - not enough time spent with other dogs when they were puppies is my guess. Sometimes it's the breeding ie some breeds do the direct bouncy full on play greeting no matter what they're looking at.

So they may approach directly but not be agressive. But anxious dogs will not understand this because it looks aggressive.

Some dogs do the stand over tactic to see if the other dog will submit (roll over or turn their head away). If the other dog submits, it's all good but if not, there can be a fight, which is no fun for anyone. It's not polite dog behaviour and I would not let my dog do the stand over tactic and I avoid owners who let their dogs do it. My dog sometimes submits to this, and sometmies she tells them off. Especially if they stomp on her while she's rolled over.

It is possible for owners to teach their dogs to be more polite. You start by preventing any direct approach for greeting. If your dog likes doing that - put it on lead when you see a new dog, and supervise the greeting. Get your dog to drop and show some self control before it can sniff tails.

Some dogs just want to tear the other dog apart and that kind of shows in their teeth - lips back, ears up, hackles up, very upright and very direct approach. If you see that, your best chance of saving your dog is to block the aggressive dog with your body, but you have a good chance of being bitten too. It's up to you. Humans are taller than most dogs, if you stand up tall and walk forward and get very loud, some aggressive dogs will back off. Playful direct approach dogs will slow up.

For some direct approaches from other dogs I get my dog to go in a drop. I also do this when talking to an owner of a fearful dog, We both get low we stay a safe distance and we let the fearful dog decide if they want to say hello or not and we don't force it, ie they have plenty of opportunity to stay away if that's what they want, but me and my dog show them zero threat.

I don't know how I tell the aggressive dogs from the rude ones exactly. But I would be unlikely to let my dog off lead to run and save herself because that sometimes triggers more prey/kill drive in the aggressive dog. I go for the loud shouting blocking myself and I tend to grab the other dog and push it away.

And we stay away from dogs that are lunging, barking and snapping at the end of their lead. There is a reason dogs like that are on lead.

Great response and very interesting you described rebus exactly in part of that he has no manners with others dogs and never has and yet he has been to dog school since a pup so always been around other dogs, he really is terrible it is something we are working in with my dog trainers. If he sees another dog when we are out he is just totally focused in it and it's so hard to break that focus. Fingers crosses we'll get there eventually!

I'll be interested to hear the replies to this too as the behavior your describing in the GSD sound exactly like how my boy reacts when he sees another dog and he is the biggest sook ever :)

Just wanted to add Rebus doesn't stand over other dogs but he stands close and very tall and with his tail high.

Signed :)

My boy was toilet trained from 3 days after he came home at 8 wks

I'm loving seeing all the working line labs

My girl is from guide dog lines and has a taller, leaner look to her than many labs. I think a lot of working dog associations/groups eg. Guide dogs, customs, assistance dogs etc produce lighter leaner labs if its just the look you're after.

I think temperament is also an important consideration as in my experience, working labs in australia tend to be much higher energy and higher drive dogs than some working types you see in the UK. Most Working type labs in Aus and the US are bred for field trials, where some of the working types in the UK are more all rounders and used only for occasional, weekend or recreational work and tend to be a little more laid back.

This is my black girl, Mindy

Wow she looking stunning I'd be more than happy with her :). I have managed to find two breeders I really like one whose dogs are Irish imports and the other ones dogs are fantastic uk lines so I am hoping something comes from one of those two as their dogs are stunning and exactly what I'm after :)

Will do, hopefully get some replies over the next few days :D

Here is my girl in action on the dog walk at an agility comp.

Aww Buddy she looks lovely and like she is really enjoying what she is doing. I have emailed her breeder :D

Wilgundi in Vic uses thier Labs to hunt and trial as well as show..

Thanks Missymoo looks promising have emailed them too :D

Thanks for the link will have a look. If we we're still in Scotland we'd have no trouble either not sure I could justify the cost of shipping one from there or the US though!!

Ah, my question is answered. I thought by the look of your gorgeous girl that she could have been bred in the UK. The shipping crate in the background of one of the photos was a bit of a giveaway also :laugh:

There is a consistency of type within the UK working bred Lab (not bred for high end field trials, just picking up) that you don't find here. I have three UK import family dogs that board here and they all could be related to your girl. You'll have to spend some time searching the internet for the type that you like. It is not consistently bred by any particular breeder. UK show bred imports aren't what you want; neither US show bred nor working bred are what you want, UK working bred MAY get you the type that you want.

BTW, Labrador Retrievers are NOT hunting dogs - they are, as the name implies, retrieving dogs :D

Sylvia

Thanks Sylvia sounds like I'm going to struggle to find what I am looking for I have emailed a few breeders that people have suggested and will see what happens fingers crossed I find what I am looking for :)

Thanks Purdie will have a look :)

Hi, You can check out this webiste.

http://www.australianworkingretrievercentral.org.au/bb/

They are all mostly working labs, and a few USA types aswell. Im sure someone here will be able to help you.

Thanks

You'd have no trouble finding the lankier Lab build with narrower head if you were in the US.

Australia has relatively few people who use Labs to hunt, and most breeders go for show conformation.

I don't know them personally, but I think Kadnook Labs in Victoria would be a good breeder to start with. They are more into functional Labs than show Labs.

see, eg

http://203.89.193.82/kadnook/Pages/Page_Frames/history_page_frame.htm

Thanks for the link will have a look. If we we're still in Scotland we'd have no trouble either not sure I could justify the cost of shipping one from there or the US though!!

I recommend you look for Labs that are titled in retrieving, perhaps contact the Retrieving club in your state to see if they can recommend a breeder who works their dogs.

Good advice thanks.

Thanks for the comments everyone she was gorgeous brings a tear to my eye everytime I look at her still miss her so much.

Hi Everyone,

We are keen to add another dog to our family in about a years time when Rebus will be 2. We have owned a lab before and she was the best dog ever she was perfect in every way (to us anyway) we know we could never replace her and I think that is why we have not looked into getting a lab before now, but we are now ready to start the search for our new family member.

I thought I would start searching for a breeder now as I am struggling to find one that breeds the type of lab I am looking for!! As much as we know we can't replace our previous dog in personality we would like our new dog to be the same looks wise(if that makes sense) so to start with female and black (thats the easy part!), now for shape - I find there is quite a difference in the look of some labs ie the majority of labs I see and that people seem to have are of the more stocky solid look (show type?!!)and then there are the slimer/leaner looking lab (working type?!!) which is what our girl was pics attached. Is the difference down to whether they are show type or working type? Our girl had a lot of Field trial CH in her breeding with both parents being working dogs.

If any of you are breeders of this type of lab or owners of this type of lab who could recommend a breeder I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks in advance.

Jo

Our gorgeous girl Bracken

I should maybe also mention when we had Bracken we lived in Scotland.

Thanks for sharing :D

I can't wait until they finish the new park in the Onkaparinga council area ;)

Where is it going to be?

Not too close to either of us

It's in Minkarra Park in Flagstaff hill- off happy valley and Manning road.

Looks like a good area on paper, but I've never visitied the park.

Not sure when they will complete the park though, hopefully this year.

http://www.onkaparinga.sa.gov.au/onka/search_results.jsp?orderby=rank&rpp=10&rst=All&str=dog+park&type=and&xcid=507

The second 2 results show the location and everything else :D

Thanks for the link. Shame there's nothing down this way!

Thanks for sharing :D

I can't wait until they finish the new park in the Onkaparinga council area ;)

Where is it going to be?