staffylover

English staffords are rare as hens teeth (at least here in SA). I have been searching (within 200km's) of my location for one for the past 3 years, but had no luck. As far as other states go- People keep falsely advertising pups as pure breeds ,only to find out that they are not. Over pricing said pups well over $1000 !!!! or selling pups with bad health problems- So- we have vowed to only buy one from someone locally, where we can go and visit the pups and the parents (& breeders) before making any decisions, to avoid any of the problems we have encountered earlier. That being said- It's just typical that an advertisement would come up from someone in the town over from us & in the right price range- just weeks after we picked up our little bluey! Makes sense to wait until our heeler is trained before getting another pup though. Must keep a rational head about it i suppose. Might hold off for a while and see if another litter becomes available. Not holding out any hope, but maybe that just means it wasnt meant to be. Totally! I assumed 2 pups would be double the fun and cuteness and although they were cute actually they were a real headache. Never again! You can become the third wheel if you are not careful. The beauty of waiting is once your cattle dog is a settled and sensible adult and you get a new puppy, you get to go through the whirlwind again but without trying to juggle two idiots at the same time. I laugh now but I was genuinely at my wits end at times and felt like I wasn't doing any of us justice. Also, I agree with HW on having opposite gender. It doesn't work that way every time but if it was to be an issue it would not likely manifest until maturity anyway so it is just one good way to help minimise the potential for problems. Good luck with it all. ahaha noted ;-) I think i will wait then. Thanks :)

I say English stafford as opposed to American /Amstaff. Whenever i have searched for just stafford, it always comes up with Am staff and cross breeds. The (blue) stafford i purchased from a breeder**** in Brisbane, cost $2,500 plus freight inc crate*. Was meant to come with a *puppy pack & papers but when she arrived, she was covered in dermatectic mange (according to a skin scrape test done by my own vet $$$$) and unbilical hernia, which vet also instructed would make it dangerous for her to breed with ,if we ever wanted her to down the track. Ended up sending pup back to breeder (long story) & did NOT get our money back. Breeder wnet on to BREED with the puppy less than 6 months later- even after our vets said it would be bad to do so with this pup**** The whole experience has left us bitter and hurt and angry. Would consider spending $1000 on a stafford- but not concerned about papers as long as we can see the parents are actually both staffords* and not crossed with god-knows-what else. (another long story!)

aha yeah, but they are old enough to help out now. youngest is almost 8. We have wanted another fur baby since our last one passed away. He had the most amazing temperament and was so good with the children when they were babies. Have wanted to get another as a companion to the kids. They love taking the puppy for walks and giving him treats for sitting etc.

I will put my feelers out again in a few more months in here then, and see what's around. preferably under $1000 though and has to be within 200km of where i live, so i can go and visit before making any decisions, just to be safe. (I am sure all breeders on this site are awesome- but i have been burnt too many times in the past to take any chances) Thank you for your advice though. Makes sense to wait til my blue heeler is older and better trained before introducing another pup.

Ahaha yeah, kind of know it will be extra work- have had 2 pups before, but last time they were the same breed & same gender. There was much chewing,pooping, hole digging, ignoring & having to separate them at meal times etc. This was many many years ago now. No longer in a rental property either (which is a bonus) and have 3 children to help with giving love and attention (and poop clean ups!) Just wasn't sure how a Blue heeler & Stafford pup would go together. If they would be excessively aggressive or antisocial or lead each other astray, bonny & clyde style. Thanks very much for the links, had a quick read through. Good to hear other peoples experiences with 2 pups the same age.

English staffords are rare as hens teeth (at least here in SA). I have been searching (within 200km's) of my location for one for the past 3 years, but had no luck. As far as other states go- People keep falsely advertising pups as pure breeds ,only to find out that they are not. Over pricing said pups well over $1000 !!!! or selling pups with bad health problems- So- we have vowed to only buy one from someone locally, where we can go and visit the pups and the parents (& breeders) before making any decisions, to avoid any of the problems we have encountered earlier. That being said- It's just typical that an advertisement would come up from someone in the town over from us & in the right price range- just weeks after we picked up our little bluey! Makes sense to wait until our heeler is trained before getting another pup though. Must keep a rational head about it i suppose. Might hold off for a while and see if another litter becomes available. Not holding out any hope, but maybe that just means it wasnt meant to be.

Ahh yes, makes sense! Thank you.

Hi all. For many years we have been searching for an english staffy to add to our family but have had no luck!!! Eventually, we ended up deciding on getting a little blue heeler pup & he is terrific!!! It's been about 3 weeks since we got out pup, and NOW, (wouldn't you know it) a litter of pure breed english staffy's have become available & they are sooooo cute!!!! I intend on going to visit the pups before i make any final decisions*- but before i even do that- I was hoping anyone could tell me their experiences in having 2 different breed puppies together*, and even better still, how a blue heeler and stafford puppy would go together? We have a fairly big,low maitenance, fully fenced back yard-so lots of room to run around. Just curious how they will get along, and if so- what would be better- getting another male, or getting a female. (at this stage, i'm looking at a female) Any thoughts & suggestions appreciated.

Was this the little blue stafford with the massive price tag and riddled with mange? Did you get a full refund? Contact the CCCQ and ask them how to go about putting in a complaint - it will cost you $$$ though . Keep it well detailed especially any vet records that you had while the pup was with you and ask your vet if they could write a letter detailing the condition the pup was in and their recommendation that the pup never be used for breeding and anything in writing from the "breeder" stating that he/she was well aware of the condition that the pup was in. Good luck, it is breeders like them that make the rest look bad . Yes, i am the one who paid a ridiculously high price for a puppy riddled with mange And yes, i fully intend to put in a complaint about her, but am still trying to take her to court, to get my money back. As it stands, she has both the dog AND my money. hopefully the courts make her pay me, for the sake of being fair! And yes, it's PEOPLE like HER that make other breeders look bad

yes,i rang the CCCQ way back when i was still waiting for my "papers" to arrive, to check if she was even a registered breeder,and apparantly she is. even tho (at the time) she hadnt even registered my pups litter yet. according to CCCQ , u dont HAVE to register a litter straight away,and you can still claim they are registered with papers. This just doesnt make any sense to me. seems anyone can become a registered breeder,and can register any old dog as a pure breed :\

Yes i know, i am still in shock. she has no right to own a breeders liscence.

Hi guys, some of you may remember me from last year. I was the one who paid a ridiculous price for a "pure bred staffy" which ended up having health issues. (in a nutshell) Well, just wanted to let ya's know ,that i have become aware that this "breeder" has (against vetinary advice)bred with the "PUPPY" that we sent back to her- even tho she isn't even 1 year old yet! Just wondered if this was legal or not in QLD,as im pretty sure it's not allowed in SA!

I'm sure this is the case in Victoria Yep same here. although I think that in WA you can still sell puppies without papers, as in the litter has to be registered, but you can sell them to their new owners without. Bloody silly in my opinion. Having Limited register and main there is no need to sell a dog without papers. Yes that is the rule in WA I would love to know what can be done to change it! not 100% sure, but it seems QLD have similar rules. when i rang them re: wether or not the litter my pup came from was registered, they said yes (but it wasnt until a month after i bought her. even tho i was paying for a pup that was already registered and would come with papers"!!!!?? apparantly , it is "normal" for breeders to wait up to 12 months before registering a litter,because it can save them money by doing them all in one hit (?) or so the girl i spoke to, told me. all sounds veryyyyy dodgy to me! would be worth sending them an email tho... get the ball rolling with investigations.

yeah i think she might even be happier paying $2,500 than $4000. thanks for looking that up...will pass on the info!

thanks for your reply!! yeah like i said, i have no idea about how much this breed "should" go for. I also thought $4000 was a bit steep too, but apparantly thats what other breeders are selling them for *shrugs*. I just thought someone on here might be able to tell me if this was a realistic price for a bulldog, or if she's just looking in the wrong places! Have recieved a pm from someone with some details on a breeder, so i have passed that info on. Hopefully they can point her in the right direction!!! Thanks again