caffiend42

Is this the second time you've got two pups together? Hmmm, so you knew they were backyard breeders, and got the pups anyway. Sigh. How old are the pups now - 6, 7, 8 or 9 weeks old?

No. Kiwi

Yep. It's a meatcicle

Ah. You've answered my question in your other thread about whether your breeder knows their stuff. Did you decide to get just one pup? At least that will be a helluva lot easier. Even experienced dog people mostly steer clear of two at a time, unless they have a very good reason that goes well beyond "they're cute". Have a browse through the nutrition and grooming sub-forums, and see what you can give your pup that's natural. Two of your best friends in the fridge will be aloe vera juice and apple cider vinegar, the former for overall immune system health and the latter for a gazillion things, such as a flea deterrent.

:p RIP Tyson. You were obviously well loved, and you will be sorely missed.

How much information did the breeder give you? Start training them IMMEDIATELY, and get them into a routine ASAP. And be consistent, or you will have a harder road ahead of you. I see Poodlefan is here - the cavalry has arrived

G'day joee Can you provide a bit more info? Age, breed, how long you've had the pups, sex, when the pup seems to make the noise most, what you are doing with regards to feeding, training, interaction with them? Are you in a position to talk to the breeder of these guys, if they know what they're on about? You WILL need to spend a fair bit of time with them, and yes, two pups are harder to deal with than one. But you've made your bed You've come to the right place for advice though. You might want to hit "report" on your topic though on the bottom left hand side to get this moved out of the BSL forum and into General Dog Discussion

G'day there, more beagle owners! Beagles, contrary to many opinions ARE indeed smart, but they can be a bit disobedient if they can't see the "what's in it for me". I personally think they're dead easy to live with, provided they're part of your "pack" as they LOVE to be with you. A beagle kept outside is a sad beagle. With regards to toilet training - these were our rules, and there were very few incidents inside: When pup wakes up - outside to toilet. When pup has had a drink - outside to toilet. When pup has eaten - outside to toilet. When pup has had a bit of a play - outside to toilet. When you think of it - outside to toilet. And PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE! They'll get the jist of it pretty quickly, and the older they get the longer they can hang on. No doubt you WILL get some "defiant wees" where they look at you and do it anyway - this is just to test you Under NO circumstances is rubbing their nose in it appropriate or acceptable. How are they to make the connection that it's bad? If anything, it could make them afraid to do so, and cause some health problems as a consequence, not least behavioural ones. They're actually pretty sensitive souls, they DO want to please you, and they do not have mean bones in them so they do take it seriously if you show them one. I think the key thing with beaglies is not to see their behaviour as "naughty". It's pretty easy to keep them happy - lots of time with you, mental stimulation, exercise. Remove things out of their reach if you don't want them touched. If they've already got to something, give a replacement that CAN be chewed ie a toy, and say "NO!" immediately when you catch them in the act. Punishing 5 minutes later is too late. If they do chew something you didn't want them to, get some newspaper, roll it up tightly, and hit the head. Yours :p YOU left it there, didn't you?

For bog simple stuff, which is all I have the patience for, I love Picasa. Plus the fact that it's a management tool for the photos, and it's free. No doubt serious enthusiasts would find it too simplistic, but for my purposes, it suits me just fine.

My guys get fed twice a day - usually around 7ish, both am and pm. But if we have a sleep in or a walk on the beach in the morning it's later, and same again if we're not home yet in the evening. Although Indy gives nose bumps to us when he thinks it's time for dinner One thing I've never figured out though are the calls to ensure you eat before your dogs to enforce pack hierarchy. The usual practice in disciplining a dog for some indiscretion is to tell it off immediately, because any longer and the dog won't associate the punishment with the crime. Same for feeding - if you've fed the dog first, and then feed yourself say 10 minutes later - the dog will think it's alpha? I don't buy it. How is it dumb enough not to associate discipline with a transgression after a short delay in the negative feedback, but smart enough to think it's alpha to you if it's been fed first?

Who is this "we" you speak of? The general public, who just goes about their business, probably doesn't know that. It wouldn't surprise me one little bit if the greater population, who just happens not to be blessed to be a well educated DOLer , thinks that BSL IS a good thing, because most of the public perception of pitties IS negative. And right now, pitty owners, by and large, aren't helping to turn around that perception.

Of course they're not monsters - but to Joe Public they are. Partly because of media frenzy, but quite frankly, there ARE too many incidents that DO involve pitties. Chicken and egg. There are just not enough examples out there of people doing the responsible thing with these dogs, so the public perception is that they ARE monsters. And it's the dogs that suffer for it.

Bottom line is - all dogs, regardless of breed, need to be effectively contained. By their very nature, pitty owners need to be that much MORE vigilant, no matter how docile their dog is, precisely to combat the public perception that they are dangerous dogs. Those that are deliberately flouting their Council By-Laws need to have the book thrown at them. They are not doing themselves, their dog and their breed any favours if the general public believe they are rednecks. And they are their own worst enemies when it comes to BSL - they're the ones hammering the nail in the coffin, but have the audacity to blamestorm everyone else. If you own a pitty you have an obligation to do everything in your power, and then some, to ensure it is safe, and others are safe from it. Don't go crying in your weeties if you don't comply with the law, which is also there to protect the community, and some people from their own stupidity.

:rolleyes: Very sad indeed. I know of a very similar situation, and one in which all indicators seemed positive. It's just a crying shame that in so many instances pitties are owned by dickheads with a point to prove. Lovely dogs in the right hands, scary in the wrong.

For one thing, it indicates that the dog may be unhappy, upset, or fearful about something in its environment that may have changed - at least in its perception. Getting a happy dog back would be my main motivator, rather than the prospect of complaints, although that too is a high motivator. Not least if you yourself find it irritating/annoying. Maybe he's got a little sensitive to new situations/noises and a bit of separation anxiety thrown in, and one trick may be to desensitise him to those noises that set him off, and/or put some background noise like a tv or radio in place that may override the other noises. There are a few ideas, good luck.

A good walk in the mornings to wear them out. Ok, they're jacks - they don't wear out And of course, the more exercise the fitter they get. But it's a good habit to get into anyway. Leave the radio on for background noise. Treat balls as a meal replacement - same for a meaty bone to keep them busy, or kibble frozen in an ice-cream container of water - keeps them cool, takes longer to get through, and also keeps them hydrated. Doggy day care if that's an option.

:D Nice. On that basis, you shouldn't be allowed to compete at all - let alone be a member. After all, you would be signing an agreement that you would abide by their rules, would you not? That is deceptive at best.

Bloody hell, Jed, you always write a good story. Now that's one Poppy should dine out on at the Bridge :rolleyes: Thinking of you and Poppy.

Depending on the jurisdiction, aggressive fence running could result in the dogs being declared as Dangerous Dogs, so no, I don't believe allowing that behaviour to occur to be acceptable as the dogs, if they are doing that, are NOT in control. Here, the owner could potentially be fined $220 for Dog Cause Nuisance if a complaint was submitted, and if that behaviour occurred off leash outside its property, it would be considered a Level 2 Attack for menacing behaviour. The implications are serious. Do you still see nothing wrong with that, RebLT?

Oh, is that all? Noice work

That's far too much cuteness for you. Send him to MEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! He'd be just fine on chicken necks, and chicken wings when a little older. Chicken is a GREAT staple food for most dogs, including the littlies. Just be careful not to get him too fat - lean is good, and slightly hungry is also good, as it means he WILL be interested in his tucker If he's leaving food I'd suggest you're giving him a little too much. Not telling you any more until there are more pics ;P

I'd probably just start on a teaspoon or two - he's not a big chap in the first place. Don't give him flavoured yoghurt - just the natural. I'd give you more advice, but that depends on pics And the fact I don't have any more Does he like chicken necks/wings? Mince and vegies mixed up?

Oh no, what a terrible tragedy. He's absolutely beautiful in those photos. Run free Brody. :p

There's someone on the forum that makes tug toys, maybe you can buy them from her ;) Rhino hide, although probably in short supply, would be good.

Sounds like a spinoff from Temple Grandin's work with cattle, using a padded cattle crush. She based her research on her own experiences as she has a mild form of autism, and she actually made a crush-type mechanism for herself to help calm her. The overall mild pressure on the body was like being hugged. I might try a body wrap on Indy next time there's a storm - but I'll have to wait a few more months! ETA: snap, denis And to add: www.templegrandin.com Fascinating stuff.