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have you tried warm water and dishwashing liquid up bottom ...ps do it out side

steve , your correct it not going to effect puppy farmers their already approved..... its the people with a few dogs trying to do the right thing by their dogs.... lve spoken to my shire.. thank god were out of town ,when law comes in and it will . l can keep my dogs but will have to build yard with cement ect and septic system will have to be put in. have to put in for a building permit more money for local council and get breeders permit $120 .permit will have to be approved each year and extra $120 a yr for my local council..councils are on to agood little money spinner.. people in my shire who live in town will have to get approved from council and people who live near them can put in complaint and they wont be able to have more than 2 dogs ... not good for town people who show/bred...

Cant they see that how they want our dogs housesed is cruel... We will look like the puppy farmers that they are not happy about and want to close down.. All cement yards and wire cages ,great life for a dog....not

very proactive..... your so smart what would you suggest we do?? do you understand what im saying??

doesnt matter who gets in thier going to change legislations for dog breeders.goverments have to look like their doing some thing.we need to standup for our rights before changes are made and its to late..at the moment a person who is a member of applicable organisation(including dogs victoria,cat authority of victoria,feline control council,governing council of the cat fancy and waratah national cat alliance)that registers their puppysand /orkittens with that organisation and has less than 10 fertile females of either species is not required to be registered as a breeding establishment with their council...this is the way we should fight to keep it.. other wise wont be long till it spreads to other states..

cheak out www.tedbaillieu.com.au tough new enforcement and legislative power to end puppy farms cruelty... beter than what jon helper wants to bring in. from what lve read ...ted baillieu mp office said start lobbing now for what we want as dog owners

just been to my local pms office..got print out of what the will be doing to stop rogue puppy farm operators .hope full you guys can veiw at www.tedbaillieu.com.au ....unlike jon helper who all so whats to restrict vca memers to same rules as puppy farms.who dont health test ..