dragonwoman

Barbaric IMHO but understand why the breeder feels it necessary (I have heard the deceptive lengths people will go to get an entire puppy of some breeds).......I would ask for (and offer to pay for if necessary) a vasectomy in a male, would definitely not buy a juvenile desexed female, seen too many cases of spay incontinence which leads to lifetime medication and indignity or exclusion of the bitch from the life she has been used to

Dogs could hang themselves

You would need to call Dogs Victoria, as far as I know it is not open during the day or at regular hours...........the property is leased, not owned by members as KCC Park is........and the grounds staff are not there every day..........

Yes, but some dogs do all the time and some don't ever do it. The instinct presumably comes from claiming territory (dominance and communication) and communicating that you are around and available for mating (bitch in season) so it's interesting to think about why individuals do it when not all of them do. I believe, after many years and lots of dogs, some rescued, that it is not simple dominance, dogs who feel insecure will do it to reassure themselves they have life under control.........so some bottom of the heap dogs do it too

Name no names but was this a local obedience club or a private "club"?

I made shadecloth covers for my metal crates, or you can buy silver mesh (try and get the more open weave one), I don't like soft crates in the summer....you can rotate a crate to suit the sun if it is out of the of the car....and I don't mean to be hurtful but would Malcolm benefit from a break from the outside world whilst he deals with his social issues? I am entered in Obedience on Sunday but we won't be going as they forecast 32 deg, last trial of the year, I love going and seeing everyone at Croydon but this year we will give it a miss, dog comes first, bath day instead and they can all drip dry!!! Always next year, it's a long break in Victoria but I think a lot of dogs enjoy the change and come back fresh after the big holiday

We have taken dogs over and back a few times, first time we used cages, other trips they stayed in their trailer..I would NEVER leave dogs in a vehicle over summer in case it was hot, even at night, dogs have died, ferry people will put you in best spot if you have animals but they will be heavily booked on that date .....I would fly her over, maybe using a kennel to collect her until you pick her up but I fear they will be booked out too, or you could kennel her in Melbourne and have them send her over when you get there, think you would need a pet transport company....is Waynerod still around?

I would want to see a written opinion of an experienced injury vet before I accepted that

Well said....... you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, you can modify and manage but you need the temperament what it should be for that breed, and a temperament that a particular owner finds hard to manage will be a burden for all the dog's life, including for the dog I would be speaking to a few other breeders before buying a dog from the one saying genetics are minimal in his breeding program

Well said....... you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, you can modify and manage but you need the temperament what it should be for that breed, and a temperament that a particular owner finds hard to manage will be a burden for all the dog's life, including for the dog I would be speaking to a few other breeders before buying a dog from the one saying genetics are minimal in his breeding program

Clearly something has already happened to get rid of illegal puppy farms because there are none left - even the terminology has changed from puppy farms to puppy factories. I have heard that Wellington Shire (East Gippsland) says they have closed 14 puppy farms, there were big volume breeders down there, surely that would have an effect on statistics?

“No jurisdiction in the world has had the courage to set a low limit on the number of animals kept by breeders, so research into the link between animal numbers and welfare outcomes is limited,” Dr Walker said. (my words, limited is double speak for as she says up first, never been done so NO REASEARCH will they realise this means no one has a clue?) “Setting a limit will allow us to start benchmarking welfare outcomes in Victoria.” Well I did hear someone remark that it had to be 10 because after that they would run out of fingers...............

is it just me who thinks they held the inquiry to show they are prepared to listen to concerns. but that it was all just a public relations scam? to appease the masses so they hope wont get a backlash like baird did? There are two "theys", the lower house has a govt majority so the Bill passed easily, the upper house does not have a majority, they have more greens, minor party and independent members and it is the upper house which is holding the inquiry.............the issue has become a political one............I don't believe this inquiry is "going through the motions", they are investigating flawed legislation based on incorrect premises in some aspects, and written without proper consultation of all affected

The presentation had to be limited to time, a lengthy written submission was put in before the enquiry started and the important part will be the transcript when it comes online.............that is the main bit of an enquiry

She has apparently spoken of introducing an amended Bill next week, without waiting for the findings of the Inquiry, am told she can, but it will end up blocked in the Upper House where Labour does not have a majority

Is this not against the law?

Only a few months ago DV were sent forms by govt to renew AO status from early next year, never a word about what was in the pipeline, even when DV asked face to face was there anything else they should know.............DV were led to believe (and led up the garden path) that they would renew their AO status, albeit with more accountability (with which DV were happy to comply), a working party was set up by MC to prepare the application....

Vet's letter has to describe a medical condition now, so depends on who you see, no longer acceptable just to say because I don't believe in it, etc.....I know of a pet owner who was harassed by a ranger for months because they had a small dog their vet considered needed to be more mature before desexing

It is thought this petition was got up by a couple of puppy farms and if you sign it you are supporting them. I suppose it depends on how it is presented. This morning I read it was a vet that got it started. Who would know. I *think* VicDogs wants their own petition running. First is completely wrong, second on the right track...........don't believe all you hear!! if the first is completely wrong then VicDOGs is in deep poo because that came from official sources I might be an official source!!

It is thought this petition was got up by a couple of puppy farms and if you sign it you are supporting them. I suppose it depends on how it is presented. This morning I read it was a vet that got it started. Who would know. I *think* VicDogs wants their own petition running. First is completely wrong, second on the right track...........don't believe all you hear!!

Can't say much, but go ahead and sign and send.....gee politics and smear campaigns are such fun!! Keep an eye on DV FB today (and every day!!)

Might interest all to know that some councils have in recent years decided DV affiliated obedience clubs are DABs and have hounded for payment of $500 or so a year, one council backed down........Minister gave incorrect response to DV on issue and DV does not care about supporting their affiliate....maybe they will now they are in deep stuff!!

Experience taught me teach it well in the first place..............most dogs seem to think it means walkies, we aren't teaching it as a position to maintain.......I often suggest changing the command and going back to square one

Thank you Scottsmum. We are very lucky to have such a wonderful photographer. Karen Edwards available to take photos at the RCV Herding Trial. Here are a couple of piccies of Legend and Dance who both passed their Instinct Certificates and 2 x Herding Tests to gain their HT Titles last weekend :) Youngest Rottweilers in Australia to achieve this title :) Interesting - I just noticed the total different body appearance of your Rotties in the pics: tail is up!...all the BCs, Koolies, Kelpies show the typical stalking posture with the tail down when they work the sheep.

Check the DV Facebook page.........DV are meeting a govt person tomorrow