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Tried to reply to the post re a puppy pen / wheping box pen -won't let me and don't know how to get past it. But this info may be of help. I bought these from Deals Direct on line http://www.dealsdirect.com.au/p/rectangula...en-125-80-70cm/ They are excellent and can be used two together for when the pups are bigger - but at present I have one with the door removed for Mum to jump in and out with a cardboard box as well inside - and when the pups are about 3 to 4 weeks I add more sections to make it bigger - works great - and very strong - being in sections it does not take up too much room when need to store it away. As the pups grow I put a piece of wood across the door way that is still low enough for mum to jump in but keep the pups in as well. Can reccomend deals direct they are very good - quick to deliver and have specials at times - have bought mine when they are on special or no delivery charge which comes up sometimes. Sounds like I have shares in the company - no not so but just found what works for me.

Thank you for you very informed advice - think I will just let him go to 12 months then have the examination and also get some Xrays done - I reallly want to know the outcome even if its that he does not sire pups and I either keep him as my pet or sell him to a good home - but after living in a pack of 5 don't know how he would adapt to life as a single dog especially to those who work- but I',m going to just wait it out - by May i"ll have an anser so hope its good news.

Thanks for your words of encouragement - it is so dissapointing - but will try and think its an ill wind that blows no body good and if he is ment to be desexed and just a lovely pet so be it - he will give someone happiness I'm sure -no matter how much I'd love to use him - I must agree with you its just not worth the chance of letting him sire a litter if its proven - to be honest I don't hold out a lot of hope but will go the full 12 months and have him evaluated - my old poodle that I owned and loved for 16 years lived her life without any pain or treatment ever being needed so a mild case can still make for a happy pet I guess. Trouble is I've grown to love the little guy and will miss him if I do let him go but I have my full quota of dogs and it just doesn't make good sence to hold onto him. Does anyone know about Xrays for this.

Interested to get some other breeders opinion as to what to do in my situation - I am a registered breeder for a few years now trying to do the best possible - but purchased a beautiful pup from New Zealand to add as a future stud - he is a lovely boy now 9 months old - good composition, head, colour but at 15 weeks took him for shots at the vet and he told me he had mild patella - this really was devistating news and no way I could send him back would cost me $1000 just to ship him back to his breeder - I don't blame the breeder as I know patella can skip up to 6 generations and I feel I was just plain unlucky - she asked me to run him on till 12 months and see if it really developed or was just a puppy thing. I have agreed to do this and if it is confirmed at 12 months what to do - this is my delima - should I have him desexed and sell him to a good home or risk one litter with him and see the outcome- my conscience tells me don't do it but what I would like to know is what are the chances of getting good pups from him? Has anyone had experience with this? He is very sound in every other way and the most beautiful temperament. When the vet looked at him he thought it only a mild case grade one - I've watched him closely - at 9 months he does not have any pain or tendency to limp does not even hop or carry the leg but does lift it sometimes when coming down stairs - the breeder has offered to refund me half of my cost to her if I do find out he does have patella when 12 months old - its such an awful thing Patella no tests for it as far as DNA goes - all my breeders are very sound- brrn tested by a orthapedic vet specialist - but have had 2 pups crop up with it mildly from sound parents - so I know it does happen. I feel the knee by extending the leg and putting gentle pressure on the knee it moves very slightly hardly at all - can Xrays give you a better indication. I know mild patella - grade one is not a real problem if it does not progress to a higher grade - looking back to my first mini poodle I later realised this is what she had - she was a pet only - and would walk 4 steps and then do a hop on the back leg - I always thought this was just her "funny" walk - that is going back 20 years now. The girl I would consider letting him go to if its not too risky has rock sound patellas. Any advice would be so welcome from those experienced in this - but please no nasty replies making out I'm some nogooder with no concern for the pups produced - this is not the case. Just hope someone may be able to give me an honest answer.