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I know Pers, thankfully now I can't get that image out of my head either.

I buy Black Hawk from them. Cheapest available because of the auto refills. Good service. The shipping is pretty quick; it was overnight for me because I live in Brisbane but I don't know for other states.

You can get a sample of it too (to see if it agrees with your dog), but I forgot who you email. May have to pop into the Black Hawk Thread in the Health Forum and ask. Pretty big sample too, I got a KG of it :laugh:

I never actually realized there was a "thing" with tail spinning being a serious issue for some dogs, I just thought it was something random and crazy that they did in a spur of the moment. I laugh when Hugo does it every now and again (maybe once a fortnight when he's under the bed and his tail scares him because it's dark and he doesn't know what's touching him, haha). I will make sure to stop him when I see him doing it next!

Okay so we're getting some bamboo panels to cover the fence but as for reporting them in any which form--mum says no, no, no, absolutely not. She doesn't want to be in conflict with the neighbors and apparently she says that the pitty is inside the house for the majority of the time and "nothing is going to happen to Hugo". She also thinks that because their next door neighbors have a JRT, if something ever does happen, it'll happen to the neighbor's dog first and then the neighbors will report them, not us. So the bottom line, "Why are you always making a drama where there is none; nothing will happen to Hugo". It's so frustrating living in this house argghh!!

Willow that made me burst out laughing in the middle of the library. I wonder, I wonder.. :laugh: That is really stupid, Inevitablue! How could they make such a mistake?? Yeah I'm thinking the barking thing would probably be the best solution.. It's exhausting thinking about all this stuff, why can't everyone just be a responsible owner so other people don't have to literally and metaphorically pick up after another dog's (or owner's) poop? :|

Yeah, I guess if I reported his dog for barking, that might work. I may ask them to pretend that mine was reported for barking too, because Hugo is so well-trained not to go off his rocker anymore that he'd be very offended if I reported him for barking, haha. :laugh: But yeah, he fires off a few warning barks and then as soon as I step outside to see what's happening, he runs back quickly to me as though to say "Hey, mum, I wasn't barking, that wasn't me, that was the other dog, see him, see him there, look at him!". Hopefully the bamboo fence will stop the barks. Not before I report the dog or the owners for something though, just need to figure out how to do it without incriminating myself

Thanks for the sympathy, Pers.. I really quite need it, there are so many ways I'm being pulled on this issue, logically, emotionally, physically.. Of course I feel sorry for the dog (I'd be heartless not to feel that!) but Hugo is my precious and I don't want him to cop the flak because their dog got taken away from them. Can you actually report a dog for being a suspected pitbull? How does that process work? Obviously they don't have papers that say "pitbull" (or any other breed for that matter), so couldn't they just say he was an American Staffy or something like that? I've never understood how that process works. As for the solution--don't worry about it guys, we're gonna try the bamboo fencing and the skunk paste and see how that works. Hugo doesn't bark anymore (the little angel!) so that covers the noise and maybe the skunk stuff will cover his smell too?

Whatever I do, I'm damned--Don't report the owner, the owner might at least be apologetic when my dog is ripped to smithereens; Do report the owner, and the dog potentially goes away but then there's the risk that we're going to have some violent neighbors get very shitty with us and potentially take it out on Hugo when we're not looking. Or do report the dog and there's no proof of abuse, the RSPCA turns up, the neighbor gets shitty at us AND still keep the dog. There seems no win here. At the very least, it only seems to get hit when it does something "wrong"; five minutes after I took Hugo back inside after the barking contest with the pitty, the neighbor was back outside with the dog playing a game of frisbee with it. Sigh.. it's just very, very difficult, we don't want to get ourselves into the position where we're in dangerous conflict with the neighbors.

OHHHH! I think I just got what it meant when everyone was talking about "supervising" Hugo.. :laugh: We're at home pretty much all day, 7 days a week, there's always someone in the house and if we go out, we never leave him in the yard, we lock him inside a bedroom. Is that slightly better? At least if the dog attacks him, we'll hear it and it would take two seconds to get outside. The dog is terrified of humans so maybe it'll stop attacking if it sees us? Oh GOd, I hate talking about this like it's actually going to happen I think the brains have been smacked out of the dog next door by the look of how hard the guy was hitting him. I'll look for some bamboo fencing at the Reject Shop the next time I'm out shopping, maybe the dog will forget that Hugo exists, idk.. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, I want to report the dog/owner but some people in this world are truly crazy, and I don't want to experience my first dog being baited!

Purdie, we'd report them too, if only we didn't have a dog. We're almost fearful of reporting them and them knowing that it's us that did it because I've made comments about them hitting the dog. My mother hit me over the head when I told her I made that comment and yelled at me something about whether I wanted them to throw poisoned steaks over the fence and that they're primitive people and you can't reason with primitive people etc. Haha, do we know if they rent? We don't even know what their names are (actually I think the dog is called Voodoo, but that's about it). How would you go about finding their landlord anyways?

We tried; he's ininterested in training the dog and he can't afford fencing/puppy preschool. He also said it's none of our business what they do with their dog.

It's not bad but I mean my gosh, it's tiny. Like putting Hugo in prison He gets anxious if we close him inside a room, I can't imagine all the crying if we locked him up in that cell!Skunk paste.. that's not bad! I didn't know that such a thing existed. That would be a good idea, slick it onto the fence to keep him away from it. But I mean it still wouldn't stop him seeing Hugo, maybe a combo of the skunk paste + some metal sheets to obscure visibility.. I woul just hope that it'd work!

Yeah he does, he's delighted by other dogs and always wants a sniff and that's what sets the dog off. We have some spare metal sheeting that we used to construct the chicken house, do you think maybe if the dog can't see Hugo he won't know he's there? I'm just clutching at straws here; in the perfect life, I'd build a water-filled moat full of crocodiles around our house to protect Hugo. An electric fence might be an idea, do you mean to put it on top of the fence seperating our properties? More importantly, will it work to keep the dog out?

It is horrible We had the most beautiful setup/backyard, the most beautifully behaved dog, and the loveliest neighbors and now it seems like that's all changed within the last six months. I'll give Freecycle a look, but we have a pretty large back yard surrounded by about 80 metres of fencing, so it's quite a bit to cover! (It would be cheaper to fence the neigbor's yard, they have maybe about.. hmm.. 5x15x5x15 setup)