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Since it is School holidays here his owners may be away, and unaware he is missing, I would also check with local kennels if there are any in the area. He may have absconded and not be on his usual "home turf" I can also share him on Facebook if there are contact details available.

Sorry Moosepup I missed your question, yes they just velcro on , there are three sets of velcro tabs on ours for adjustment and they run almost the length of the cone shape so it is quite secure. It also has tabs that you could slide a collar through as well, but we just used the velcro and it stayed on.

We have comfy cones Moosepup I think I bought them from Waggle, they have been great and just collapse down when they lie down. They are made of a ripstop type material so are much softer. They arrived very fast as well. Comfy e-collars

Jelly, I am another who has has followed your and Roo's thread in silence, but also in awe of all you did for your beautiful girl. I think you are amazing and so very, very brave. I will light a candle for you both on the 14th and you will be in my thoughts. Wishing you strength and peace at this hardest of times.

Lots of people have posted it on the RSPCA site and also QPS, hopefully one or both are investigating.

Ours are free range,in the house and back yard, I don't give them access to the front unless we are home and one of us is out there with them. We are busy teaching Issy some additional fence manners, and despite repeated attempts at sabotage by multiple free ranging neigbourhood cats we are finally getting somewhere so don't want her unsupervised out there. They spend a lot of the day on the back deck and in the yard by choice, but can get in whenever they want to. It would not be practical for us to crate for the length of time we are out some days, I like them to have access to inside case of storms , but also like them to be able to get out of the house as well. Lots of people would not be comfortable leaving the door open and tell us we are mad but it works for us so far. We are fortunate (in some ways) to have "interested" neighbours who are home all day. LOL. The worst thing I have come home to is muddy paw prints which I can easily deal with. Although they did eat a spy hole in the blind when we accidentally went out and shut them in with the blind down once.

Thanks Trudy08, she is all recovered now and I am lucky enough to be able to drive to very safe areas - a luxury not all owners have.

Trudy08 my comment wasn't aimed at you, so sorry if it came across that way, it wasn't you who had said those things. I rarely comment in these threads because they tend to end up the same way, but I feel quite strongly about this. I too would never harm a dog if I could avoid it, but equally my primary responsibility in my opinion is to MY dog; not the uncontrolled dog charging it. I don't argue with the owners of the off leash dog, I can do without the mouthful of abuse/ he is just being friendly/he has never done that before blah,blah,blah; I tend to find those that wilfully ignore the law are selectively deaf anyway so pointless wasting my breath - but if I am charged from a property I will report the owner if I can see where the dog has come from. I find it very sad that there are many owners who are afraid to walk their dogs in their local area. I do accept that there are dogs who are well behaved and may not need to be leashed, but my personal experience is that they are very much in the minority.

Yes accidents happens. But we don't need to go and drive on the wrong side of the road just because we're confident drivers. If people want to live on the "wild side" they should do so in their own little space and shouldn't be putting the public at risk. Now I know people who've witnessed off-lead dogs tear up an on-lead dogs in front of it's owners. Guts flying everywhere. I've had many close calls myself. Little dogs rushing at us. My quick thinking has saved many off-lead dogs lives. So yes I do scan a head and I am aware of my surroundings. So I'd rather be aware then ignorant. I agree wholeheartedly, aware and alert beats the hell out of panic stricken. I can not personally justify carrying a maglite or a stick or cattle prod no matter how many unfriendly dogs we've come across. It honestly stinks of all kinds of crazy to me and I really have to bow out of this ridiculous thread now. It's infuriating from both sides of the argument, you should not have your dogs ambling free off lead, there's not any real need, however if shit happens and my dog happened to say get out after a break in, or snap his collar or something else happen and some loony beat him or sprayed him I would be beyond furious and as much as you have a right to defend your own, so would I. And I would. Friendly off lead dogs don't bother me in the slightest, but it's law as the majority are troublesome or less than controlled, but from the other side of the fence you really need to assess the situation at hand before losing your mind and whipping out a cattle prod. Perhaps if you really are considering arming yourself because walks in your neighborhood are so traumatic for you, it might be best to think about a dog treadmill or an acreage or something. I really would be more concerned about some unauthorised person carrying a concealed weapon than a dog. Oh and I'll just leave this here too, from www.police.vic.gov.au If you say so, but the dogs who rushed us weren't friendly and they sure as hell weren't the "innocent victims" of an equipment failure. I work in rescue and whilst not an expert am a reasonable judge of a dog's body language, they were not coming over just to say hello, and I was walking a dog that had just had a femoral head ostectomy, I could not afford for her to jump or twist suddenly in an effort to avoid a bite. She did not have enough viable bone for a hip replacement so an attack or even an aggressive rush, was a matter of life or death for her whether or not she was badly bitten but because of the possible consequences for her leg. She was not able to run away so I was forced to stand my ground and if I had to use force to prevent her being injured I would. I am not talking about running across the street to bash or beat a dog ambling along besides it's owner, but about taking the neccesary steps to protect mine and if that equates in your mind to "all kinds of crazy", on high alert and panic stations and ignorant, then I guess I am. But my dog is as safe as it can be whilst others persist in breaking the law.

It is not illegal to carry a big metal maglight, or a walking pole or a golf umbrella. We are lucky we have quite a lot of leash free areas to choose from if we wish. I had to walk my girl after her hip surgery as part of her rehab. I only walked her round our area twice, it was frankly terrifying, and I was scared she would injure herself further , so many loose or unleashed dogs. I had not really noticed before. I too would do whatever it took to defend my dogs and make no apologies for it. Just obey the bloody law - so simple.

For what it's worth I think the well behaved dogs overseas thing is a bit of a myth, or are at least they are in the minority even though they are allowed go "everywhere". I lived in Central London for a long time and was often in Europe as well. In London you might see some well behaved dogs out and about sometimes in the nicer parts, but it was not unusual to be lunged at several times a day by an out of control dog, usually wearing a studded harness in the less salubrious parts I worked in. Or to be baled up by an off leash dog not contained in a yard. The housing was very dense in places and lots of poorly fenced yards and big dogs in a smallish inner city area made it a complete nightmare, there were lots of problems. In some areas you could barely take a step for dog poo all over the pavements and in every park/green space. Same in parts of Paris, Parisiennes may take their dogs everywhere, but they sure as hell don't always take poo bags. Sure they sit in Cafes and it all looks very civilised but I witnessed a number of people get a nip on the ankle and lots of scuffles between dogs as well. In LA I had the misfortune to sit next to a woman who had brought her dogs to lunch at the Farmer's Market. They were sat at the table and eating off her plate ( whilst she was eating off the same plate I might add) nobody batted an eyelid but I wanted to throw up. One of them snapped at the waitress when she came to collect the plates, the dogs clearly went everywhere with her, but it hadn't improved their manners or behaviour. I don't see why well behaved dogs shouldn't be allowed to go more places, but I understand why it is not allowed here, I don't necessarily like it but comply because I think the restrictions will only get worse if we don't. Yesterday I wished my dog could eat my vote, the monkeys on the ticket for my electorate were the pits.

So sorry to read about Joey, his thread is beautiful,your love for him shines through it so clearly. Wishing you strength at this sad time. RIP Joey, run free.

"in the wild............" Then insert some piece of really bad/ ridiculous advice regarding food/ medical care/ behaviour. The dog whisperer up the street bales me up regularly to offer me nuggets of wisdom. I have repeatedly explained the closest my dogs have got to the wild is having to stand on the nature strip for a number of hours when the feral neighbours over the road lit their house on fire. Or the beach. He seems to miss the fact they live in our house, we feed them, and have access to the local vet so no need to eat road kill or dose them with some lethal sounding concoction of "natural" ingredients. Thanks anyway.

Yes, it is weird. I also do breed rescue but all my dogs were purchased from a breeder. We sometimes get inquiries that demonstrate to me that people don't really understand what rescue means. The ones who want a cream feathered dog, good with kids and cats, not destructive or a house soiler, able to be alone all day and my favourite "not a fruitcake" - and a rescue as well. I think it would be more likely that they could adopt a unicorn ahead of a rescue Saluki with those characteristics. I love rescues, they have a lot to teach and a lot to give - but in most cases they would not be rescues if they were easy dogs. This is so true, I have friends who lean towards Whacktivist tendencies, and they cannot grasp the finer points of breed rescue; or how anyone who is not anti breeder could be interested in rescue. Makes for some interesting conversations.

I am with Petplan and they requested histories,but accepted what history we could provide plus a stat dec when told the dogs are rescues. They pay for HD after a short exclusion period when you first sign up and paid several thousand dollars for Issy's femoral head ostectomy. We pay a higher premium because our dogs are considered a "select breed". I like to ask lots of questions and spoke to a supervisor to get more information when our premiums jumped about 18 months ago,she was very informative and told me what they deem "select breeds" make up around 5 or 6 % of the dogs they insure and account for around 80% of their claims. Given that sort of context it makes sense at least that our premiums are higher. The percentages may have changed of course as it was a while ago, but for us they have always been fair with claims and paid pretty promptly. Even if we had been putting the amount of the premiums into a bank account we would have got nowhere near the amount of bills they have paid out for Issy alone. Our excess has increased to $125.00 but they pay all the rest currently. I know when the dogs hit 7 the cover reduces to around 70% of the claim as they are termed older dog or something on their policies then. I find they are very clear with their information so you know what you are getting into and what you are likely to get back. Others have complained they take ages to pay but around 3 to 4 weeks is the most we have ever waited, they send us a text when they receive the claim as well. So far we are very happy.

So beautiful Anne, bless you and his adoptive mother. I love that he was never alone again. RIP Navey.

Here you go Minimax Buckle guard

Done as honestly as possible, I found it a bit hard because I know a few examples of the breed so hard to try hard to base all answers on the photo alone.

So sorry it wasn't the outcome you were hoping for, but glad you have an answer and won't be left wondering. RIP Smudge.

Really sorry to hear that about Bruno. I hope it goes well.

Probably a very valid point about stirring them up and from Cosmolo's post it is also a good point that being on site doesn't equate to checking. I think I still prefer on site owners/staff as I am assuming if they heard a commotion they would check. Never really thought about the length of time they may potentially be left overnight. I will be asking more specific questions if I have to kennel mine anywhere else from now on. ETA Typing too slow!

I think that is a long time JulesP, did they say why they are left so long? Do the owners/ operators not live on the property? I would be concerned as well, maybe some kennel owners will come in and say if it normal practice. My two would be horrified, I don't think they have ever been left to their own devices for 14 hours. The kennel near us that I would use also has CCTV as well as the owners living on the property around 100 meters from the kennel blocks.

Did you mean 7am? Two hours does not seem long to me, but 14 is pushing it, in my opinion.

I think it probably depends a bit on where you live in Australia. My dogs sleep inside with no free access to the yard at night, much as I would hate them to kill any roaming koalas or more realistically possums at our place, it is for their protection as well. We have cane toads to contend with and also a very high concentration of fruit bats that are frequently in the yard, so keeping them in works both ways for us.I would panic if they got a bat, I am worried enough about the bloody bat poo. They go out late for a supervised toilet visit and then no access until morning, it doesn't seem to bother them and they let us know if they ever need to go out "off schedule". If I have heard a lot of bat fighting overnight I check under the trees before they go out in the morning to make sure there are no bat corpses. Neighbour's dog is free range and has already had two toad incidents, I suggested he lock the dog door but he said he doesn't hear the dog scratching if it needs to go out and doesn't want to have to clean up. Yet he was frantic when the dog got a toad, people can be strange.

He's beautiful, congratulations. (His big sister is stunning too)