chriswiddler

Rubbish. Local and state government enforce regulations that they themselves create. Local governments lobby state governments for changes in legislation that they enforce. The police lobby for changes to the criminal code. I would hardly place RSPCA, a private organisation, in the same category as elected governments and sworn police officers!!! The statement was that the RSPCA is the ony body that puts forward what rules it would like as legislation so it can then go out and enforce them. It's twaddle, because plainly other bodies do too. I noticed that you stated 'elected' governments - like that makes a huge difference. I mean, who exactly were these governments representing when they brought in legislation such as BSL? Yes, the RSPCA is a private organisation as opposed to the government, but in enforcing legislation they are agents of the government. And what is the problem with a welfare organisation wanting to lobby for legislative change in animal welfare? Would you also not think that the very people who try to enforce animal welfare law and bring positive results for animals would have some idea of what works and what needs changing? Clearly there are problems with what the RSPCA is proposing. Why not then engage with them, put forward other views and suggest alternatives in a positive, collaborative manner? After all it is a proposal - a plan that they are seeking feedback on. Killing dogs because of their looks is hardly an animal welfare issue. In my view it is animal abuse. If they took on animal abusers rather than the mentally ill and poor they may learn not to c*ck up when they didn't have soft targets.

Sorry but they are not one and the same dog.Some may look the same but in this day and age they differ considerably in this country.In the US you will find dogs that are far more closely related.The ADBA does not issue papers to Aussie Amstaffs nor have they ever,you may be confusing it with the UKC who did register Amstaffs as pitbulls.This however does not happen anymore.As of April 30th this year the UKC has stopped single registrations of American Pitbull Terriers.No more will be registered unless bred from already registered UKC stock.The AKC does not open its stud book to pitbulls either.It has happened twice for short periods and the last time was a long time ago.Posting misinformation does not help the situation.I dont think the confusion about DNA is becuase people think they have a pitbull I dont actually think the test is that accurate.people have sent in samples from pure bred dogs and they have comeback with varying breeds in the mix.The pitbull gene pool is diverse and would in my mind be harder to pin down.Boston Terriers were bred down from pitbulls in the halcion days of dog fighting in and around Boston so they are a pitbull cross not the other way round. There are many ASTs with ADBA APBT papers in Australia. The AKC has opened it's studbooks on three occasions to APBTs. The dogs are indistinguishable especially with color laser printers able to run off any papers you like. Any AST without papers is a dead dog. All the major lines come from fighting APBTs. Now tell me they are a different breed. Dogs Qld has simlpy helped sign the death sentence to thousands more dogs by not opposing BSL along with the RSPCA.

What goes around comes around. Now I understand why it appears to me that they pick on the indigent and the mentally ill, they don't have the resources to fight back.

BITSA actually states it does not guarantee purebreed of dogs, just what is in their background. How does that play with a dual regfistered AKC/UKC dog is anyone's guess. Eventually it may be possible to identify breeds by DNA but it is not possible at the moment. Otherwise a breed signature would be valid the world over, which of course it isn't.

The AST and APBT and even the SBT are one and the same breed. The DNA confusion is because people think they own an APBT when they don't. ADBA even issue papers to Aussie ASTs if they can trace their history back to US imports. AKC opens it's stud registry to APBTs as their gene pool is so low. Rather than fighting over what breed of dog someone has better to fight BSL and it's proponents before our ability to own and breed dogs is taken from us completely. DNA testing does not identify purebreds, just closely related dogs. Given that over a century ago Bostons were APBTs it is not surprising they show up in APBT and AST dog's history.

Rubbish. Local and state government enforce regulations that they themselves create. Local governments lobby state governments for changes in legislation that they enforce. The police lobby for changes to the criminal code. I would hardly place RSPCA, a private organisation, in the same category as elected governments and sworn police officers!!!