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Yay! p.s. Has anyone got their numbers yet? I haven't

Was there a Saint as well? I thought there was a dobe and a saint went in for Neuter in group? Yes there was a Saint

We have a 12 month old group 6 neuter. He is entered on 2 June @ Bulla and 29 June @ Wangaratta and we had decided these would be his last shows as there is never any competition. I'll see if the owner will reconsider and enter him on July 13.

Thanks for the info :)

That's interesting to get your thoughts given you fought for it in Darwin. We are considering a similar 'fight' in Melbourne, which was why I posted this poll to get some opinions. If you have time, could you PM me and tell me how you went about it? e.g. did you get a petition going? Thanks!

Yes, but in the end, the judge must decide if the exhibit is worthy of challenge points...the SAME as in the regular classes. We see MANY substandard dogs (entire) shown in the regular classes by newbies...why would this be considered any different than showing a neuter? In the end, the judges give the points...the people either accept their dog isn't up to snuff, or they don't. Agreed!

Just talking Royals. We've attended a few of the Vic neuter shows (although they are few and far between.)

There are 4 classes of neuters: Class 15 Puppy Neuter - for neuter dogs aged six and under 12 months Class 16 Junior Neuter - for neuter dogs aged nine and under 18 months Class 17 Intermediate Neuter - for neuter dogs aged 18 and under 36 months Class 18 Open Neuter - for neuter dogs aged six months or over I have never seen classes 15-17, only ever class 18. That's fine as there are very few neuters being show. But in my opinion all Royals should at least have open neuters dogs and bitches (i.e. 18 and 18a). Currently at Royals: In Vic and NSW, neuters are not allowed at all. Canberra and SA have neuter sweepstakes, however to my knowledge you can't get points for sweepstakes. In WA only veteran neuters can be entered. Darwin does have open neuters (classes 18 and 18a) in the Darwin Show. How is it that Darwin is the most progressive?!? My thoughts: Responsible ownership should be promoted. Desexing for those who do not want to breed is a good idea, not just to prevent accidental litters but also often for temperament and health reasons (reduces cancer risk). Once a girl has a couple of litters, she should be desexed as it is the responsible thing to do and avoids lots of problems and mess for the owners if they don't intend to breed her again. If neuters were allowed in the Royals I have no doubt it would, within a couple of years, lead to an increase in the number of neuters being shown generally as it would be seen as more accepted and prestigious and, frankly, worth the effort. Anything that promotes desexing and educates people as to its importance is a good idea as there are far too many dogs and not enough homes, and so many people think "oh, I have a nice dog so I'll have a litter or two and make a bit of money". They have no idea that it really isn't a money making exercise and it should be left to those who are doing it only for the betterment of the breed.

Thanks Rottshowgirl, I'll have a look at that :)

My pet peeve is that neuters are not catered for in the Royals (at least not the Royal's i've looked at - Vic, SA, NSW). Why not?!? Responsible ownership should be promoted. Desexing for those who do not want to breed is a good idea, not just to prevent accidental litters but also often for temperament and health reasons (reduces cancer risk). Once a girl has a couple of litters, she should be desexed as it is the responsible thing to do and avoids lots of problems and mess for the owners if they don't intend to breed her again. If neuters were allowed in the Royals I have no doubt it would, within a couple of years, lead to an increase in the number of neuters being shown generally as it would be seen as more accepted and prestigious and, frankly, worth the effort. Anything that promotes desexing and educates people as to its importance is a good idea as there are far too many dogs and not enough homes, and so many people think "oh, I have a nice dog so I'll have a litter or two and make a bit of money". They have no idea that it really isn't a money making exercise and it should be left to those who are doing it only for the betterment of the breed.

This is from the results section... General Specials Judge : Mrs J Weekes (VIC) Best in Show : Great Dane Aust Sup Ch Darkat Agent Provocateur (Tracey Coyle) Runner Up in Show : Labrador Retriever Aust Sup Ch Driftway Aussie Rulz (Mr G Spagnolo & G Williams) Baby in Show : Papillon Szzan Whimsical Wiz Kid of Oz (Suzanne Goodchild) Puppy in Show : Cavalier King Charles Spaniel Matmor Thriller (M Morse & W Henderson) Junior in Show : Maltese Vahlia Risque Rogue (Lee Beckley) Intermediate in Show : Australian Silky Terrier Aust Ch Balkana Jack Sparrow (J W Camac) Aust Bred in Show : Great Dane Aust Sup Ch Darkat Agent Provocateur (Tracey Coyle) Open in Show : Smooth Fox Terrier Aust Sup & NZ Ch Pinnacle Kiwi Made (Imp NZ) (K & J Campbell / S Evans) Open Neuter in Show : Shetland Sheepdog Aust Sup Ch Sharndah Butterfly Kisses (T Walters) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group 1 Judge : Mrs J Weekes (VIC) Group Specials Best in Group : Australian Silky Terrier Aust Ch Balkana Jack Sparrow (J W Camac) Runner Up in Group : Maltese Vahlia Risque Rogue (Lee Beckley) Baby in Group : Papillon Szzan Whimsical Wiz Kid of Oz (Suzanne Goodchild) Puppy in Group : Cavalier King Charles Spaniel Matmor Thriller (M Morse & W Henderson) Junior in Group : Maltese Vahlia Risque Rogue (Lee Beckley) Intermediate in Group : Australian Silky Terrier Aust Ch Balkana Jack Sparrow (J W Camac) Australian Silky Terrier BOB : Aust Ch Balkana Jack Sparrow (J W Camac) R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Balkana Flirtatious (IID) (J W Camac) Dog CC : Aust Ch Balkana Jack Sparrow (J W Camac) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Balkana Flirtatious (IID) (J W Camac) Intermediate : Aust Ch Balkana Jack Sparrow (J W Camac) Open : Aust Ch Balkana Flirtatious (IID) (J W Camac) Cavalier King Charles Spaniel Puppy : Matmor Thriller (M Morse & W Henderson) Chinese Crested Dog BOB : Aust Ch Mohawk Paparazzi (Sandy Adsett) R/Up BOB : Mohawk X Factor (Miss V M Bridle) Dog CC : Mohawk X Factor (Miss V M Bridle) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Mohawk Paparazzi (Sandy Adsett) Neuter of Breed : Aust & Neut Ch Mohawk Thriller (Sandy Adsett) Puppy : Glanore Perfect Storm (Sonya and Margot King) Junior : Mohawk X Factor (Miss V M Bridle) Intermediate : Aust Ch Mohawk Paparazzi (Sandy Adsett) Griffon Bruxellois BOB : Aust Ch Alwood Counterfeit (Alwood Kennels) R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Alwood Suduction (Alwood Kennels) Dog CC : Aust Ch Alwood Counterfeit (Alwood Kennels) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Alwood Suduction (Alwood Kennels) Minor : Matisse Jazz (Alwood Kennels) Intermediate : Aust Ch Alwood Suduction (Alwood Kennels) Aust Bred : Aust Ch Alwood Counterfeit (Alwood Kennels) Lowchen BOB : Paceaway Xaster Class (Phyl Prescott) Dog CC : Paceaway Xaster Class (Phyl Prescott) Puppy : Paceaway Xaster Class (Phyl Prescott) Maltese BOB : Vahlia Risque Rogue (Lee Beckley) Dog CC : Vahlia Risque Rogue (Lee Beckley) Junior : Vahlia Risque Rogue (Lee Beckley) Papillon BOB : Aust Gr Ch Basilika O Rei Pele (Pauline Scott) R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Szzan Cotillon Belle (Suzanne Goodchild) Dog CC : Aust Gr Ch Basilika O Rei Pele (Pauline Scott) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Szzan Cotillon Belle (Suzanne Goodchild) Baby : Szzan Whimsical Wiz Kid of Oz (Suzanne Goodchild) Aust Bred : Aust Ch Szzan Cotillon Belle (Suzanne Goodchild) Open : Aust Gr Ch Basilika O Rei Pele (Pauline Scott) Pekingese Bitch CC : Mutiara Bella (Alwood Kennels) Puppy : Mutiara Bella (Alwood Kennels) Tibetan Spaniel R/Up BOB : Ashjay Koda Bemine (Heidi Marshall) Bitch CC : Yamatsangyad Grand Khata (Heidi Marshall) Baby : Hytib Midnight Dream (Heidi Marshall) Junior : Ashjay Koda Bemine (Heidi Marshall) Open : Yamatsangyad Grand Khata (Heidi Marshall) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group 2 Judge : Ms J Lees (VIC) Group Specials Best in Group : Smooth Fox Terrier Aust Sup & NZ Ch Pinnacle Kiwi Made (Imp NZ) (K & J Campbell / S Evans) Junior in Group : Jack Russell Terrier Blazeaway Banquo (Alicia & Michael Mann) Aust Bred in Group : Australian Terrier Aust Gr Ch Teritopaz Ruff N Tuff (Mrs Leanne Bywater) Open in Group : Smooth Fox Terrier Aust Sup & NZ Ch Pinnacle Kiwi Made (Imp NZ) (K & J Campbell / S Evans) American Staffordshire Terrier BOB : Amseraphs Divine Justice (J Maloney & K Taylor) R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Amseraphs Pure Obession (J Maloney & K Taylor) Dog CC : Aust Ch Amseraphs Beau is Arrows (J Maloney & T Steen) Bitch CC : Amseraphs Divine Justice (J Maloney & K Taylor) Junior : Amseraphs Divine Justice (J Maloney & K Taylor) Australian Terrier BOB : Aust Gr Ch Teritopaz Ruff N Tuff (Mrs Leanne Bywater) R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Taufield Short N Sweet (Mrs Leanne Bywater) Dog CC : Aust Gr Ch Teritopaz Ruff N Tuff (Mrs Leanne Bywater) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Taufield Short N Sweet (Mrs Leanne Bywater) Aust Bred : Aust Gr Ch Teritopaz Ruff N Tuff (Mrs Leanne Bywater) Open : Aust Ch Taufield Short N Sweet (Mrs Leanne Bywater) Smooth Fox Terrier BOB : Aust Sup & NZ Ch Pinnacle Kiwi Made (Imp NZ) (K & J Campbell / S Evans) R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Optimo Optical Illusion (K & J Campbell) Dog CC : Aust Sup & NZ Ch Pinnacle Kiwi Made (Imp NZ) (K & J Campbell / S Evans) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Optimo Optical Illusion (K & J Campbell) Puppy : Keimaya Hunters Arrow (Jennifer Buller) Junior : Aust Ch Optimo Optical Illusion (K & J Campbell) Open : Aust Sup & NZ Ch Pinnacle Kiwi Made (Imp NZ) (K & J Campbell / S Evans) Jack Russell Terrier BOB : Blazeaway Banquo (Alicia & Michael Mann) R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Whatajack Lucy (S Cadan & D Hippisley) Dog CC : Blazeaway Banquo (Alicia & Michael Mann) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Whatajack Lucy (S Cadan & D Hippisley) Baby : Whatajack Firenbrimstone (G Butler/S Cadan) Junior : Blazeaway Banquo (Alicia & Michael Mann) Intermediate : Aust Ch Whatajack Lucy (S Cadan & D Hippisley) Manchester Terrier BOB : Aust Ch Dogct River Pebble (Mrs A Shevchenko) R/Up BOB : Windypark Sweet Jennifer (Mrs. A. Shevchenko) Dog CC : Aust Ch Dogct River Pebble (Mrs A Shevchenko) Bitch CC : Windypark Sweet Jennifer (Mrs. A. Shevchenko) Puppy : Windypark Sweet Jennifer (Mrs. A. Shevchenko) Intermediate : Aust Ch Dogct River Pebble (Mrs A Shevchenko) West Highland White Terrier BOB : Westmor Kiss and Tell (D Goldsmith / M O'Reilly / S Stewart) Bitch CC : Westmor Kiss and Tell (D Goldsmith / M O'Reilly / S Stewart) Puppy : Westmor Kiss and Tell (D Goldsmith / M O'Reilly / S Stewart) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group 3 Judge : Mr D Bowey (VIC) Group Specials Best in Group : Labrador Retriever Aust Sup Ch Driftway Aussie Rulz (Mr G Spagnolo & G Williams) Runner Up in Group : Golden Retriever Aust Ch Larbellah Take The Lead (Beaucroft Kennels) Junior in Group : Cocker Spaniel Bolwarra Moving On (Judith O'Brien) Aust Bred in Group : Labrador Retriever Aust Sup Ch Driftway Aussie Rulz (Mr G Spagnolo & G Williams) Open in Group : Golden Retriever Aust Ch Larbellah Take The Lead (Beaucroft Kennels) Cocker Spaniel Puppy : Silverblue Under No Illusions (Judith O'Brien) Junior : Bolwarra Moving On (Judith O'Brien) American Cocker Spaniel BOB : Am Gr / Can Ch Cocoa's Dancin In My Dreams (Imp USA) (Pauline Grutzner) Dog CC : Am Gr / Can Ch Cocoa's Dancin In My Dreams (Imp USA) (Pauline Grutzner) English Springer Spaniel R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Rowemaris Reach for the Stars (R & W Stobbie / C Stobbie) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Rowemaris Reach for the Stars (R & W Stobbie / C Stobbie) Junior : Rowemaris Ready to Celebrate (AI) (R & W Stobbie / C Stobbie) Aust Bred : Aust Ch Rowemaris Reach for the Stars (R & W Stobbie / C Stobbie) German Shorthaired Pointer BOB : Aust & Can Ch Legacyk Par Avion to Kobidan (Imp CAN) (Jenny Cattell) Dog CC : Aust & Can Ch Legacyk Par Avion to Kobidan (Imp CAN) (Jenny Cattell) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Kobidan Hot in the City (Cattell/Brennan) Open : Aust & Can Ch Legacyk Par Avion to Kobidan (Imp CAN) (Jenny Cattell) Golden Retriever BOB : Aust Ch Larbellah Take The Lead (Beaucroft Kennels) Dog CC : Aust Ch Larbellah Take The Lead (Beaucroft Kennels) Neuter of Breed : T Ch Fernamber Edynn CCD RN TSDX (M S & L Klecka) Junior : Beaucroft Victoria Secret (Beaucroft Kennels) Aust Bred : T Ch Morningmyst Dazzling Delight (M S & L Klecka) Open : Aust Ch Larbellah Take The Lead (Beaucroft Kennels) Open Neuter : T Ch Fernamber Edynn CCD RN TSDX (M S & L Klecka) Irish Water Spaniel BOB : Dual Ch (T) Tirriki Emotion Explosion TSDX (P Gelme / H & B van Haasteren) Dog CC : Dual Ch (T) Tirriki Emotion Explosion TSDX (P Gelme / H & B van Haasteren) Aust Bred : Dual Ch (T) Tirriki Emotion Explosion TSDX (P Gelme / H & B van Haasteren) Labrador Retriever BOB : Aust Sup Ch Driftway Aussie Rulz (Mr G Spagnolo & G Williams) Dog CC : Aust Sup Ch Driftway Aussie Rulz (Mr G Spagnolo & G Williams) Aust Bred : Aust Sup Ch Driftway Aussie Rulz (Mr G Spagnolo & G Williams) Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever BOB : Aust Ch Scaraval Monte Carlo Baby (Raylene Laver) Dog CC : Aust Ch Scaraval Monte Carlo Baby (Raylene Laver) Junior : Aust Ch Scaraval Monte Carlo Baby (Raylene Laver) Group 4 Judge : Miss B Watt (VIC) Group Specials Best in Group : Saluki Aust Sup Ch Pazada Tristar (Talkabout Knls / Mr G P & Mrs P L Russell) Runner Up in Group : Beagle Sanmar Red Hot Rumour (AI) (Jill Farley & Sue Walker) Puppy in Group : Beagle Sanmar Red Hot Rumour (AI) (Jill Farley & Sue Walker) Junior in Group : Miniature Dachshund (Smooth Haired) Aust Ch Stardayne Sheamus (Mr Roy Hackett) Aust Bred in Group : Irish Wolfhound Aust Ch Greycroft Tullamore Warlord (AI) (B & S McClure) Open in Group : Saluki Aust Sup Ch Pazada Tristar (Talkabout Knls / Mr G P & Mrs P L Russell) Open Neuter in Group : Rhodesian Ridgeback Aust Ch Ujamma Beez Neez (AI) (Fran Parsons) Basset Hound Baby : Longbay Diamond Jubillee (Jane Miller) Beagle BOB : Sanmar Red Hot Rumour (AI) (Jill Farley & Sue Walker) Dog CC : Sanmar Red Hot Rumour (AI) (Jill Farley & Sue Walker) Puppy : Sanmar Red Hot Rumour (AI) (Jill Farley & Sue Walker) Miniature Dachshund (Long Haired) BOB : Maharlikah Eye Succeed (Mr Edgar Sison) Dog CC : Maharlikah Eye Succeed (Mr Edgar Sison) Junior : Maharlikah Eye Succeed (Mr Edgar Sison) Miniature Dachshund (Smooth Haired) BOB : Aust Ch Stardayne Sheamus (Mr Roy Hackett) Dog CC : Aust Ch Stardayne Sheamus (Mr Roy Hackett) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Stardayne Dee Lovely (Mrs V Tapp & Mr R Hackett) Baby : Berghutte Black Betty (Mrs C Irvin) Minor : Berghutte Day by Day (Mrs C Irvin) Junior : Aust Ch Stardayne Sheamus (Mr Roy Hackett) Aust Bred : Aust Ch Stardayne Dee Lovely (Mrs V Tapp & Mr R Hackett) Open : Aust Ch Berghutte Burnt Black (Mrs C Irvin) Irish Wolfhound BOB : Aust Ch Greycroft Tullamore Warlord (AI) (B & S McClure) Dog CC : Aust Ch Greycroft Tullamore Warlord (AI) (B & S McClure) Aust Bred : Aust Ch Greycroft Tullamore Warlord (AI) (B & S McClure) Rhodesian Ridgeback Neuter of Breed : Aust Ch Ujamma Beez Neez (AI) (Fran Parsons) Open Neuter : Aust Ch Ujamma Beez Neez (AI) (Fran Parsons) Saluki BOB : Aust Sup Ch Pazada Tristar (Talkabout Knls / Mr G P & Mrs P L Russell) Dog CC : Aust Sup Ch Pazada Tristar (Talkabout Knls / Mr G P & Mrs P L Russell) Open : Aust Sup Ch Pazada Tristar (Talkabout Knls / Mr G P & Mrs P L Russell) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group 5 Judge : Mrs R Wallis (VIC) Group Specials Best in Group : Shetland Sheepdog Aust Sup Ch Shelmanna Zulu Moonbeams (Miss Lisa Berrill) Baby in Group : Bouvier des Flandres Estrik Mucho Costo (AI) (Estrik Kennels) Minor in Group : Bearded Collie Abmaci Star Gazer (C & C Evans) Puppy in Group : German Shepherd Dog Awmas Heavens Grey Ghost (George Gaut) Open in Group : Shetland Sheepdog Aust Sup Ch Shelmanna Zulu Moonbeams (Miss Lisa Berrill) Open Neuter in Group : Shetland Sheepdog Aust Sup Ch Sharndah Butterfly Kisses (T Walters) Australian Kelpie BOB : Aust Ch Kusco Daretobe Kosi RN (Jan Scholtz) Dog CC : Aust Ch Kusco Daretobe Kosi RN (Jan Scholtz) Australian Shepherd R/Up BOB : Ellagant Great Expectations (Ross Carlson) Bitch CC : Ellagant Greatest Hits (Ellagant Kennels) Minor : Ellagant Greatest Hits (Ellagant Kennels) Puppy : Ellagant Great Expectations (Ross Carlson) Bearded Collie BOB : Aust Ch Brigadoon Miros Traveller (AI) (Brigadoon Kennels) Dog CC : Aust Ch Brigadoon Miros Traveller (AI) (Brigadoon Kennels) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Brigadoon Harry's Gift (Brigadoon Kennels) Minor : Abmaci Star Gazer (C & C Evans) Aust Bred : Aust Ch Brigadoon Miros Traveller (AI) (Brigadoon Kennels) Border Collie Baby : Bordarita Its Me Ya Lookn For (Bordarita Kennels) Bouvier des Flandres BOB : Aust Ch Rogues Frontier Lady of the Outback (Imp USA) (Estrik Kennels) R/Up BOB : Estrik Lieben Barli (Estrik Kennels) Dog CC : Estrik Lieben Barli (Estrik Kennels) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Rogues Frontier Lady of the Outback (Imp USA) (Estrik Kennels) Baby : Estrik Mucho Costo (AI) (Estrik Kennels) Minor : Estrik Lady Muck (Estrik Kennels) Puppy : Estrik Lieben Barli (Estrik Kennels) Junior : Estrik Rouge's Juggernaut (Estrik Kennels) Briard BOB : Aust Gr Ch Cacharel u shud b solucky (Awmas Kennels) Bitch CC : Aust Gr Ch Cacharel u shud b solucky (Awmas Kennels) Open : Aust Gr Ch Cacharel u shud b solucky (Awmas Kennels) Collie (Rough) R/Up BOB : Ellerran Rioja Blue Distinctn (Bryans and Sandra Crowley) Minor : Ellerran Rioja Blue Distinctn (Bryans and Sandra Crowley) Finnish Lapphund Baby : Lumottu Wild Secret (N Toohey) German Shepherd Dog R/Up BOB : Awmas Heavens Grey Ghost (George Gaut) Dog CC : Awmas Heavens Grey Ghost (George Gaut) Minor : Schaeferhund Astra (Irina Borodinova) Puppy : Awmas Heavens Grey Ghost (George Gaut) Aust Bred : Aust Ch Britstar New Elegance (George Gaut) Open : Aust Ch Allendell Its Allbout Me (George Gaut) Shetland Sheepdog BOB : Aust Sup Ch Shelmanna Zulu Moonbeams (Miss Lisa Berrill) Bitch CC : Aust Sup Ch Shelmanna Zulu Moonbeams (Miss Lisa Berrill) Neuter of Breed : Aust Sup Ch Sharndah Butterfly Kisses (T Walters) Open : Aust Sup Ch Shelmanna Zulu Moonbeams (Miss Lisa Berrill) Open Neuter : Aust Sup Ch Sharndah Butterfly Kisses (T Walters) White Swiss Shepherd Dog BOB : Fantasy od Bijelih Andela (Imp CRO) (Karin Scholz) Bitch CC : Fantasy od Bijelih Andela (Imp CRO) (Karin Scholz) Junior : Fantasy od Bijelih Andela (Imp CRO) (Karin Scholz) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group 6 Judge : Mr R Bennetts (VIC) Group Specials Runner Up in Group : Newfoundland Aust Gr Ch Capebass Wish Apon Astar (Mrs M O'Connor-Price) Junior in Group : Dogue de Bordeaux Lambda Look Into It (N & J Perkins) Intermediate in Group : Shiba Inu Aust Ch Kazumi Cee Cee (Alveka Knls) Alaskan Malamute Baby : Chimo Diamonds And Pearls (Ms T Syme & Mr M Frigo) Boxer BOB : Aust Ch Targeted By Newlaithe (Imp UK) (David and S Faye Crooks) R/Up BOB : Tyeanbo Dora The Explorer (D & S F Crooks / G Munro) Dog CC : Aust Ch Targeted By Newlaithe (Imp UK) (David and S Faye Crooks) Bitch CC : Tyeanbo Dora The Explorer (D & S F Crooks / G Munro) Junior : Tyeanbo Dora The Explorer (D & S F Crooks / G Munro) Intermediate : Belchlo Dream Catcher (Mr S Bonnici) Aust Bred : Tyeanbo Miss Smarty Pants (D & S F Crooks / G Munro) Open : Aust Ch Targeted By Newlaithe (Imp UK) (David and S Faye Crooks) Cane Corso BOB : Bokson Contessa (Mrs B & Mr M Porter) Bitch CC : Bokson Contessa (Mrs B & Mr M Porter) Puppy : Bokson Contessa (Mrs B & Mr M Porter) Dogue de Bordeaux BOB : Lambda Look Into It (N & J Perkins) Dog CC : Lambda Look Into It (N & J Perkins) Bitch CC : Lambda Athena (Mr S Bonnici) Puppy : Lambda Athena (Mr S Bonnici) Junior : Lambda Look Into It (N & J Perkins) Mastiff BOB : Grandcoeur Rasputin Rose (Mr Ian Le Nepveu) Dog CC : Grandcoeur Rasputin Rose (Mr Ian Le Nepveu) Puppy : Grandcoeur Rasputin Rose (Mr Ian Le Nepveu) Newfoundland BOB : Aust Gr Ch Capebass Wish Apon Astar (Mrs M O'Connor-Price) Dog CC : Aust Gr Ch Capebass Wish Apon Astar (Mrs M O'Connor-Price) Open : Aust Gr Ch Capebass Wish Apon Astar (Mrs M O'Connor-Price) Rottweiler BOB : Stolzsein House Of Prada (Rob & Chris Coles / Samantha Bradley) Bitch CC : Stolzsein House Of Prada (Rob & Chris Coles / Samantha Bradley) Baby : Stolzsein Karbon Ruler (Rob & Chris Coles / Samantha Bradley) Junior : Stolzsein House Of Prada (Rob & Chris Coles / Samantha Bradley) Samoyed R/Up BOB : Icemagik The Last Boyscout (Samantha Gray) Bitch CC : Kchise my sweet gypsy rose (AI) (Samantha Gray) Minor : Kchise my sweet gypsy rose (AI) (Samantha Gray) Intermediate : Icemagik The Last Boyscout (Samantha Gray) Shiba Inu BOB : Aust Ch Kazumi Cee Cee (Alveka Knls) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Kazumi Cee Cee (Alveka Knls) Intermediate : Aust Ch Kazumi Cee Cee (Alveka Knls) St Bernard Neuter of Breed : Summervogel Blaze of Glory (Samantha Horton) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group 7 Judge : Mr J Marshall (VIC) Group Specials Best in Group : Great Dane Aust Sup Ch Darkat Agent Provocateur (Tracey Coyle) Puppy in Group : Miniature Poodle Kateisha Giorgia on my mind at Westpriors (Imp NZ) (Mrs J & Miss C Missen) Intermediate in Group : Shar Pei Aust & Am Ch Shine's Gift Wrapped For Silkston (Imp USA) (S White) Aust Bred in Group : Great Dane Aust Sup Ch Darkat Agent Provocateur (Tracey Coyle) Open in Group : Keeshond Aust Ch Keez Kause For Koncern (Trevor & Cheri Rogers) Open Neuter in Group : Shih Tzu Beltzu Angels Brought Me Here (Belinda Heersema) British Bulldog BOB : Aust Ch Avonmist Cometh The Man (Craigrossie Kennels) R/Up BOB : Rowbull Our Oklahoma (Mr & Mrs D Seivers) Dog CC : Aust Ch Avonmist Cometh The Man (Craigrossie Kennels) Puppy : Rowbull Our Oklahoma (Mr & Mrs D Seivers) Open : Aust Ch Avonmist Cometh The Man (Craigrossie Kennels) Dalmatian Minor : Thunderspot Violets Are Blue (Melissa O'Brien) Puppy : Thunderspot Right Kindof Wrong (Melissa O'Brien) French Bulldog BOB : Aust ch Jordajake Judgement Day (S White) Dog CC : Aust ch Jordajake Judgement Day (S White) Baby : Warpaint Da Look Of Love (Craigrossie Kennels) Puppy : Avonmist Antoni Gaudi (Craigrossie Kennels) Aust Bred : Aust ch Jordajake Judgement Day (S White) Great Dane BOB : Aust Sup Ch Darkat Agent Provocateur (Tracey Coyle) Dog CC : Aust Sup Ch Darkat Agent Provocateur (Tracey Coyle) Bitch CC : Aust Ch Darkat Asti Riccadonna (Kathy Smith & Darren Ripper) Puppy : Danefred Samsara (F R Clifton) Aust Bred : Aust Sup Ch Darkat Agent Provocateur (Tracey Coyle) Keeshond BOB : Aust Ch Keez Kause For Koncern (Trevor & Cheri Rogers) Dog CC : Aust Ch Keez Kause For Koncern (Trevor & Cheri Rogers) Baby : Keez Devil Wears Prada (Trevor & Cheri Rogers) Open : Aust Ch Keez Kause For Koncern (Trevor & Cheri Rogers) Miniature Poodle BOB : Kateisha Giorgia on my mind at Westpriors (Imp NZ) (Mrs J & Miss C Missen) Bitch CC : Kateisha Giorgia on my mind at Westpriors (Imp NZ) (Mrs J & Miss C Missen) Puppy : Kateisha Giorgia on my mind at Westpriors (Imp NZ) (Mrs J & Miss C Missen) Standard Poodle BOB : Starus Think UR Cooler Than Me (Miss N R Tetof) Dog CC : Starus Think UR Cooler Than Me (Miss N R Tetof) Junior : Starus Think UR Cooler Than Me (Miss N R Tetof) Toy Poodle Dog CC : Aust Ch Garwey Tommy Tucker (Garwey Kennels) Shar Pei BOB : Aust & Am Ch Shine's Gift Wrapped For Silkston (Imp USA) (S White) R/Up BOB : Dobromil Ulan (Stacey White) Dog CC : Aust & Am Ch Shine's Gift Wrapped For Silkston (Imp USA) (S White) Bitch CC : Dobromil Ulan (Stacey White) Puppy : Dobromil Ulan (Stacey White) Intermediate : Aust & Am Ch Shine's Gift Wrapped For Silkston (Imp USA) (S White) Shih Tzu BOB : Beltzu Headline News (B Heerseem & M Obrien) R/Up BOB : Aust Ch Beltzu Its All About Me (Belinda Heersema) Dog CC : Beltzu Headline News (B Heerseem & M Obrien) Neuter of Breed : Beltzu Angels Brought Me Here (Belinda Heersema) Baby : Tzutique A Tail To Tell (Robyn Hawke/Melissa O'Brien/Belinda Heersema) Aust Bred : Beltzu Headline News (B Heerseem & M Obrien) Open : Aust Ch Beltzu Its All About Me (Belinda Heersema) Open Neuter : Beltzu Angels Brought Me Here (Belinda Heersema)

Received last night :)

Has anyone received their numbers yet? We haven't, and the cheque hasn't been cashed either Tried calling Joan but no answer and her message bank is full.

Absolutely Ish. I'll PM you :)

With summer here, I thought someone may want to buy a pet crate fan. It has never been used as we unfortunately stopped showing our boy before we needed to use this. I paid $27.00. Will sell for $20.00 inc postage (although if you are in the Northern suburbs of Melbourne I can deliver).

My cavalier, Dallas, is nicknamed "Dim Sim" or "Dimmy" (courtesy of my brothers) and he now responds to it. Our Saint is nicknamed "Slobberchops" for obvious reasons. My boy Charlie is nicknamed "nugget" (again, courtesy of my brothers). No idea why. Our dearly departed Rottie, Cassie, was nicknamed "Schnee".

Hi Miss Emma. We are entered into this also with our St Bernard. What breed is your Baby Puppy? It too is our first show ever so a little daunting! You won't be the only newbie out there :)

I'd also like to know the answer to the above. We are about to enter our first show next month and I had no idea we had to dress up

Thanks Lavendargirl. Unfortunately my mum isn't getting a cav. She's always had rotties. She lost her 10 year old rottie 6 months ago and still can't look at another rottie. So she's decided to get another big dog but one that doesn't resemble a rottie at all - she's chosen a St Bernard!!! Insane, I know. But she's been through a lot over the past few years and this is the first thing that has made her smile so I can't say no. But I have invested in several baby gates so I can create safe havens for my 2 boys, and I've stressed the importance of her training him to be gentle with my 2 boys. However, both Dallas and Charlie are very social. We go to the dog park or dog beach most weekends and they always gravitate to the biggest dog, so I don't think they'll mind having a St Bernard in the house. I'm a little more worried about mum's Persian cat! p.s. I've started working on Charlie already. When I got home from work, instead of greeting him excitedly when he met me at the door, I walked past him and ignored him. He followed me for a few minutes, then gave up and went into the lounge and started playing with his toys on his own. Amazing! After about 15 minutes I then said hello to him and gave him a cuddle. He also tried to wrangle his way onto the couch last night but I said no and gave him and Dallas some toys and they started playing. I think with persistance we will get on top of this issue. (Fingers crossed I don't receive a call from home saying he's peed inside again! )

Thanks for your replies. I will get him vet checked to ensure he doesn't have a UTI. I will also do what you suggest Lavendergirl and start separating him from for short periods me even when I am at home. My mother is getting a puppy in 3 weeks' time. Part of me wonders if he somehow knows that there is a new addition coming and that is why he is acting up, but surely that can't be it?!?

I adopted Charlie, a4 year old Tibetan Spaniel x Cavalier, almost 12 months ago today. He joined my other Cavalier (Dallas) who is now 2 years old. Apart from a few accidents in the first few weeks, he has been well behaved with using the doggie door and going to the toilet outside. It didn't take too long for him to becoming quite clingy with me, but it just seems to be getting more and more obsessive. He used to be content lying on his bed beside the couch while I was watching tv but in the last 2 weeks or so has decided he needs to lie with me on the couch. He stands up on his hind legs and puts his paws on the couch with his nose practically touching my face and holds that position until I give in and let him on the couch. We had a 'stand off' because I though he'd give up but he stayed in that position for over 30 minutes. I work full-time so am not home during the day Monday to Friday. However, about 6 months ago my mum moved in with me so now Charlie and Dallas are used to having at least 1 of us home most of the time. (They maybe spend about 6 hours alone twice a week when my mum goes out). Over the past 2 weeks or so Charlie has started peeing inside on an average of once a day. I thought perhaps it was due to the cold as he seems reluctant to go outside when it is chilly except for a walk (despite him having a jumper on!), so have made sure I take him outside for a pee every morning before I go to work. We did that this morning, yet a few hours later my mum called and told me he had peed inside again (he doesn't go in the same spot every time). He did it while she was outside hanging out the washing. This made me realise we have never caught him doing it inside. I know without a doubt it is him as Dallas is 100% trained, plus Charlie is double Dallas' height so when it has been on a wall or side of a bed I know it couldn't be Dallas. Given that we've never caught him, I'm starting to wonder if he only does it when he is alone i.e. as a result of separation anxiety. I don't think there is a medical problem as he is quite healthy. If it is separation anxiety, what can I do to help him? I'm at a complete loss. I don't want to isolate him and make him feel abandoned as I love him to death and it would break my heart to upset him, but I think I do need to do something as it is just getting worse. Both Charlie and Dallas sleep on my bed. I know that's 'wrong' but I let them get away with it. Dallas sleeps down the end of the bed and likes his space. But Charlie has to either have his body against mine or sleep with his head right near mine, staring at me (like in the photo below). Should the first step be to have them sleep on their bed beside my bed? Do I need to take him to a Delta accredited behavioural trainer? I'd be grateful for any advice you can offer.

There may be some instances where corrective aids are necessary as a last resort, but I refuse to believe they are necessary for a dog that simply pulls when he is walked but is otherwise perfectly behaved and loves all people and animals. It is not as though he attacks or lunges at anyone when we walk. He does not have an aggressive bone in his body, he simply pulls too much.

Thanks Alkhe, that's a good idea. I think I will actually do that.

I adopted a beautiful 3 year old Tibalier a few months ago. He had no training but has picked up sit, drop etc with me. However, I have been unsuccessful training him not to pull on the lead and need some help. Can anyone recommend a good trainer? I'd like to just have a few one on one training sessions rather than a group session. I also do not want to use a trainer that is going to recommend a choker collar or halti - I want a trainer that prefers to use actual training to correct the problem rather than devices. Any recommendations in the Northern suburbs of Melbourne would be greatly appreciated. Allie

Thanks everyone. Off to the bath we go. I'm glad, as I wanted him to be able to sleep in my bedroom with me and my other boy and not feel ostracised on his first night. Thanks again for your help! :D p.s. attached is a pic of my adorable new boy Charlie and both the boys already best buddies and napping together (hogging my couch) ;) UPDATE: We just finished his bath (actually shower ;) ). I combed him carefully afterwards and did not find a single flea or speck of "flea dirt" - woo hoo! Also vacuumed thoroughly, so hopefully that is our first and last flea encounter.