Talisker
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Dna Clinic At Kcc Park Sunday 12th June
Talisker replied to Talisker's topic in General Dog Discussion
I'll be at KCC Park almost quite a bit over the next few months - hopefully I can catch up with you then if you need any testing done Good luck at the shows this weekend. -
That's not nice Bilbo Baggins!! I might be biased but I think Lolapalooza's babies are gorgeous and with a pedigree to die for ;)
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Emma from Genetic Technologies will be holding a DNA clinic at the Sporting Terier Club of Victoria Show this Sunday the 12 th June. She will be attending from 10 am - 1 pm. If you have any enquiries please email Emma - [email protected] or call 0432 243 414. I look forward to seeing you there! Cheers, Emma
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Talisker replied to witheverythingiam's topic in Breeders Community
Yes - quite normal. Cat breeders don't allow outside matings like dog breeders do. It can spread FeLV & FIV. British Shorthairs also do not breed during the cooler months of the year. And if you leave cats too long to be mated, they will get pyometra. As I've already stated, I'm updating the website right now. But thanks for your "input". I thought you could blood test for FELV/FIV before breeding? I'm a vet nurse and often we have cats brought in to be tested before going off to stud. The vet writes them a certificate to present to the male cat owner -
Couldn't agree more !! The expertise at Monash (in particular - Dr Stuart Mason) saw the first ever successful frozen semen AI for my breed in Australia - despite many previous attempts by other breeders using several different vets. Dr Mark Foley is another incredible asset to the Monash team with his surgical skills & post op aftercare - he performed tibial wedge surgery on one of my girls in April this year and did an amazing job. I can't speak highly enough of the team at Monash for their care & professionalism & I get sick of people bagging them about what they charge for their services. It's worth every cent as far as I'm concerned. Another vote for Monash from me! I'm a vet nurse of many years and have been using Monash for all my repro work since August last year. I've always had good success with my own clinic but the expertise oof Monash is worth every cent they charge. They have been brilliant! Dr Stuart Mason is wonderful, and has on several occasions come in on his day off to do TCI with my girls. One of my girls had complications after her caesar and they were available at any time for me to talk to. I have always been given the AH number when I have bitches due to whelp. What did they want to charge you for the tests MM? It's a law of small business that often the client that spends alot of money gets things done at cost price. If you're not happy you should speak to them directly, Jacinta is the practice manager. I think you'd achieve alot more that way rather than bagging them out on a public forum
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Congratulations Bulldust! Hope that all is going well for you this morning xx Good luck Mon Elite - hopefully you'll have news and a final tally soon
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Good luck and looking forward to seeing the new additions. Thank you Bokezu, so far so good. I think we are in need of updated pics of your guys, I bet they again have grown so much! Redkidsmum, your girl is certainly very large isn't she, is this her first litter or if not was she the same size last time? :p Yes this is her first litter ..she is only a tiny girl normally and the smallest I own.. so will be worried more than I normally am till her babies are here safely Good luck with your girl's delivery Redkidsmum ;) Mimi has 3 live babies - 1 M and 2 F. Poor love has had an infection - most likely whole of her pregnancy ;) THere were no outward signs except slight brownish discharge at 4 weeks - she had a repeat ultrasound and was put on AB's - no more discharge and everything seemed to be going normally. THe discharge this morning was the first sign that things weren;t going to plan. I'm very grateful to have 3 healthy bubbas - and looking forward to enjoying a small litter for once! Risyntira - I might keep the whole litter - then I won't have to deal with a single puppy buyer
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Mimi's prog has dropped and she has a discharge so we are going in for a caesar this afternoon. I'm terrified for the babies as they are still 2 days off being due. Please keep your fingers and paws crossed for my little tricolour kids
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Hi guys, I've missed heaps the last few weeks while I've been on placement and away from the computer! Please excuse my group congratulations Congratulations to - Puglodge, Bilbo Baggins, redkidsmum, Leema, Risyntira, Partipaws, Fordogs, Stolzseinrotts and Firestone! Lots of new Decemebr babies :mad Mimi is getting fatter and fatter - only a few days until her babies are due. Hope all the new mummas and babies are well xx
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Well I only breed my own dogs and I trust myself and the lab samples I and my vet send in. The dogs are profiled and microchiped. That is enough. I have to do on each parent, 3 DNA tests, profiling, Hips, Elbows, shoulders, Eye cert pups and parents, that is enough. The least the ANKC can do if they are require these tests to register a litter, is to keep the records of clear by parentage so we (their paying customers) do not have to keep retesting just so we can hand them a certificate which the previous DNA tests makes redundent. BTW what ever happened to trust, like you sign a statement in front of a notery saying the dog is clear by parentage and write down the parents test numbers or grand parent test numbers on some form. I know all ANKC breeders should be treated like criminals until proven other wise, but this really is a bit too much. So are they doing retesting every other generation in Northern Europe (the model of political correctness in dog breeding)? When I looked at my breed last they did not even reguire one DNA test, never mind retesting DNA clear by parentage dogs, they accepted a clear eye exams and did nothing about the other 2 DNA tests. Are they doing it in the UK this way? Are there any countries requiring repeated DNA tests on Clear by Parentage dogs? Or is it only us doing it this way? Shortstep - I think you are missing Silverblue's point. The DNA swab for offspring to confirm Clear by Parentage is a DNA profile - not a test. It is to prove that the dog is actually a result of the claimed mating - verifying clear by parentage. In my breed we have to do hips and elbows. We are also supposed to do vWD - (most bernese breeders don't!)I have done all of mine, and only use outside males that have been tested and are clear. That way I can profile any offspring that may be used for breeding to verify that they are Clear by Parentage. CBP DNA profile is $70 This is cheaper than testing the puppies for vWD which is $125. If you had to test for PRA or CEA at $200 you'd be saving a significant amount by DNA profiling to confirm parentage. The only way the ANKC could keep the records and verify CBP is if all puppies were microchipped and DNA profiled prior to registration. Trust - pffft what's that in the dog world?? I want to see copies of all health tests before I use a male - and I expect to provide the same in return. The ANKC can't certify that a pup is clear without proof of it's parentage.
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To have a clear by parentage certificate issued the puppies must be DNA profiled to prove they are actually the offspring of the parents tested. THey still need to be swabbed, but the DNA profile is significantly cheaper than most tests
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Congratulations Zensu! I agree with Bokezu - 8 is a lovely number of babies Hope you get some sleep - can't wait to see pics of the pointer babies :D
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Gorgeous fat happy babies SBT101 :D Poor Cynda! Mimi loves being pregnant, it gives her an excuse to lay on the leather sofa all day long and eat whatever she wants :D It's funny how they change as the pregnancy progresses, between 3 - 4.5 weeks she wouldn't eat anything except chicken and cheese, and now her appetite has kicked back in she waits expectantly every time you open the pantry or fridges! She likes to look longingly at her bowl, waiting for it to magically fill.
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It is a good option if the machine is regularly calibrated to ensure accuracy and the staff handling the bllod sample know correct procedure. Not a good option if the above isn't done :D I work in a Vet Clinic where we have inhouse facilities for running progesterone assays, and we choose to send to the lab due to more consistent results and the fact that the lab is required to regularly calibrate all their machinery. Inhouse machines can have huge variations in results simply due to the individual's technique with setting up the assay. Even though we are all taught the same technique there are minor variations between staff. This situation doesn't exist in a lab as all setting up is automated. Lolapalooza - bet the puppy fairy is rubbing her wings together and planning a litter of 12 for you :rolleyes: :laugh:
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Congratulations Bulldust & MonElite! More December babies :rofl:
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So sorry to hear your news murmurstaffs Did your vet have any suggestions on what to do next time? I've seen a few successful pregnancies in bitches that have reabsorbed their babies after they were given metaclopramide. Sending you hugs and better luck for next time She wants to put her on antibiotics from day 1 of her next heat and monitor her weekly with prog tests and maybe injections. I will get a male from her even if it sends me bankrupt Fingers crossed that you get your male If your vet is happy too - try the metoclopramide too. It has a side effect of increasing the release of prolactin which helps to maintain the pregnancy in the early stages. The only other effect is to decrease nausea and speed up gut emptying (it's used (safely!) in human pregnancies to manage morning sickness) Good luck - and I really feel for you with the disappointment.....
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11 It's going to be a busy Christmas for you!! Congratulations & good work Sienna!! Mimi's had two litters of 12 so I'm hoping she's a little kinder to us with her Christmas Eve litter
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So sorry to hear your news murmurstaffs Did your vet have any suggestions on what to do next time? I've seen a few successful pregnancies in bitches that have reabsorbed their babies after they were given metaclopramide. Sending you hugs and better luck for next time
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Can I join too? Just got confirmation we are expecting bernes babies on December - due Christmas Eve! Congratulations to everyone else expecting litters in December
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I agree that an ultrasound would be not much good to assess numbers at this stage, an xray would be much better, but leave it until after 49 days if you want definite numbers(especially if you didn't progesterone test so ovulation date is unkown). I had a bitch xrayed at 43 (we prog tested so knew ovulation date), had a positive ultrasound at 28 days so we knew she was pregnant but no puppies visible on the xray! Tried again with different exposure factors - still nothing. Ultrasound showed healthy heartbeats and multiple puppies. Re -xrayed a week later and 11 little puppies were clearly visible. Even though the textbooks say ossification is visible on xray at 42 days not all puppies follow this! An ultrasound would be useful though to check the viability of any remaining puppies by assessing heartbeats. Good luck and I hope that you get a positive outcome. Did you end up checking her progesterone level?
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Lyndsay I'm so sorry for you and poor Ruby. I hope that she is on the mend soon, that Holly is fine and your next litter experience is a positive one xx
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Lots of hugs and 'Get Well Soon' vibes from us xx Hoping for good news from you and Chase in the morning
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I think with humans they check at post mortem - they'd be looking at the pubic symphisis and also for evidence of an episiotomy. Not really things you can check (and write a legal certificate for) in a live dog! A and G - Congratulations on adopting a beautiful girl, she can now live out her life being a spoilt pet with you