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yeah that is fair enough, but like i said earlier not everyone can afford that! It may be more affordable than you think. Keep your options open, even one session can be invaluable in the long run. Not sure where you are located but there are some great trainers in Vic. Good luck whatever you choose. thanks, yeah i am waiting until i relocate, and when i do i will look into finding a one on one that is a bit cheaper if i can. for the moment i can't afford it.

She is definitely much stronger than me! and thats the same problem i have, without any control to begin with i cant train her properly.

i understand you trying to give a different perspective. i know my methods are not 100% which is why i want to go to obedience, and for now i need to use the halti as it works best for me for now. i am hoping that i can slowly work her off the halti and onto check chain without her pulling so much, or just a collar. it will take time and and i will need guidance which is why i want to find a club that allows use of halti. IMO you will get a much better result working one on one with a good trainer then you will in a class environment, at least to begin with. yeah that is fair enough, but like i said earlier not everyone can afford that!

i understand you trying to give a different perspective. i know my methods are not 100% which is why i want to go to obedience, and for now i need to use the halti as it works best for me for now. i am hoping that i can slowly work her off the halti and onto check chain without her pulling so much, or just a collar. it will take time and and i will need guidance which is why i want to find a club that allows use of halti.

No luck yet though I'm more in the process of moving etc so will focus on obedient club again when we have moved. Thanks everyone for your suggestions it is nice to know that there are clubs who allow use of the halti.

yes it is about consistency and sticking to the way you want to train. and yes 'tooling' is to help train, and that is why i needed to find the harness/whatever that allowed me to handle her in a way that i could teach her. not all dogs are easily trained with just a bit of rope. you need to find what works best for yourself and your dog. in this case it is a harness for myself and my dog. its no use if she is pulling so hard. also i dont want her to be in a heel position, i am aiming for loose lead, i dont care if she is right by my side or not. thankyou for your opinion but i was asking where there might be halti training - not why my dog is pulling. You are better off hiring a trainer who will use a prong collar, anybody training Shepherd Dogs on the halti is telling you to find somebody who nose what they are doing, just my opinion if you want good walking behavior on the dog there is better way than finding halti club to help you. Joe most people who have replied have said how they liked the halti and it works well. it may not work for some i know that. not everyone can afford a their own trainer, and not everyone would like to use a prong collar. the reason i was looking for a halti club is just so i can use the halti and do regular training with it. also i dont really understand how you are now telling me to hire a trainer who will use a prong collar, when previously you said a rope would do! i am looking into clubs on my own now and i will find what is right for myself. thanks for your opinion.

yes it is about consistency and sticking to the way you want to train. and yes 'tooling' is to help train, and that is why i needed to find the harness/whatever that allowed me to handle her in a way that i could teach her. not all dogs are easily trained with just a bit of rope. you need to find what works best for yourself and your dog. in this case it is a harness for myself and my dog. its no use if she is pulling so hard. also i dont want her to be in a heel position, i am aiming for loose lead, i dont care if she is right by my side or not. thankyou for your opinion but i was asking where there might be halti training - not why my dog is pulling.

im pretty sure they wouldnt. plus im not staying near there anymore and moving soon so it will be too far to go to anyway.

haven't thought of a clicker, but love the halti so going to keep giving it a go for the time being. will try the two lead thing and see if i can slowly walk her loose without the halti after time. if not ill have to try something else!

thats a good idea i might give that a shot next time with the two leads and see how it goes after a while.

yep know how to use one properly. she just keeps pulling on it regardless and thats why my knee suffers. with the halti she hardly pulls at all, i can walk loose lead 90% of the time. i have nothing against check chains they have worked with our fmaily dogs, but this time i needed something different haha.

well hopefully after a while of training with the halti it wont be so hard on the check chain. once she learns walking loose lead is the way to go! im not going to be doing any competitions.

ive used a check chain when walking mostly with my german shep but she is too strong for me and the check chain doesnt really help. i find i am trying to check but its not working as she is pulling that much. ive started using a halti and it is amazing how different she is when using it. she still pulls occassionally to get to a nice smelly spot but i am able to control her way better than with a check chain. i was wondering if there was such a thing as an obedience club that uses haltis and if so are there any in melbourne? i havent been to obedience for a while but was going to a great one in diamond creek but i just find it so hard with the check chain. i also have a bad knee which is hard when trying to check her too. if halti obedience doesnt exist then i will just have to persevere but i was just curious.

If the main prerequisites are these and as a running friend for the GSD, I too think another working dogs would be great, kelpie, ACD or BC and agree with the person who said there are SO MANY of these types who need a good home If you get a 'rescue' dog you can usually have a trial and in this way could see how the two dogs get on. Sometimes dogs just dont 'click' no matter what breed, even the same breed. The three breeds I mentioned are easy to train and if trained, have great recall. I love greys to bits :D Vizslas and boxers are great too (and all others mentioned), vizslas are extremely demanding and like to be with their humans.. whereas the working dogs I've had are a little more independent.. Good luck :D thanks yeah im part of a rescue group so no all about the trials etc, we've also had foster dog here recently who was great. in the end it will come down to individuals dog, but just thought id get an idea of what other people thought. thanks

that is something i worry about, a greyhound may not have good recall, especially if we rescue one! in Victoria you can not legally let your dog off lead in a public place and they must wear a muzzle unless they have been assessed by GAP, ( if you don't get a grey direct from GAP ) fair enough, thanks for that info!