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I saw this on a thread on here a few weeks ago and decided to order this stuff. Because I'm in Perth it cost me the same in postage as it did for the product, but I am so impressed with this stuff. I just wish they sold it here in WA somewhere cause paying over $60 for 5 litres is pretty pricey. Having said that, I will get it from them again when this one runs out. My girl still wees in the house sometimes at night and my house has smelt for a long time. I mop the floor with this and it really does get rid of the odour. I can't remember who initially told us about this, but THANK YOU Also, I got a reply from them the next day so I've have to say their response if very good.

I've only just read this, it's shocking, especially that the owner has gotten a new dog It's my belief that if a dog has savagely killed another dog, without provocation, it will do it again and should be PTS. I caught my own dog almost scaling my 6ft fence on the weekend and she has been locked inside since until I install my new electric perimeter dog fence and train her appropriately. I love my dogs to death and would do anything for them, but if they escaped and killed or seriously injured someone elses dog in their property I would offer to have them PTS. My main fear would be, what if it was a small child rather than a dog. These things can happen, but I think the decision to put the dogs to sleep should lie with the owner of the dead dogs.

My girl has stopped drooling today and is now looking for the puppies and whining when they're out in the back room. Thank you for your responses, it seems that it was stress after all and she is now comfortable with them being around.

That's beautiful, what a lucky dog to have found you

The foster kids are kelpie x

Thanks to all those that have given me replies related to the topic ;) The pups are 7 weeks old, I have signed up to foster pups which are scheduled to be PTS and they will be fostered out as soon as forever homes can be found. These are my first fosters and I would like to keep doing it but if it's stressing my girl out too much then I will have to stop. My girl was a lot happier about the pups today, she was interacting with them a lot through their playpen, still salivating but I guess a little less stressed. For those who like to judge about my girl not being desexed, I agree that there are risks in not desexing but there are also some major health risks in certain breeds when they are desexed too early. As suggested by others, perhaps a new topic needs to be created for those who wish to discuss this.

Well, drooling can be a stress reaction or it can be a breed characteristic. If she is not of a breed that is prone to drool, then she may be stressed by not knowing how to interact with the puppies. So, limiting the time she spends with them now and slowly extending the time may help her to learn to cope. I assume that the interactions are all supervised. All interactions are supervised

I can't imagine how hard it would be for vet nurses in these situations because the only reason you would become a vet nurse is because you love animals. I couldn't imagine what these people have to feel on a daily basis. I know my vet nurses care so much for my dogs and they know me when I phone them because of my dogs. They deserve a lot more appreciation than they probably get. I have just started fostering puppies which would otherwise be put to sleep and I can't imagine how awful it would be to be the person having to give the final injection (or the person who has to hold them down).

Thank you thats a lovely thing to say ! You might not think you have a wonderful story but im sure it is. Id love to hear how you met your dogs or cats or whatever creatures are in your life. Ok, my German Shephard was a shy, scared, skinny little girl who was 5 weeks old, she was the only pup, backyard breeder, but I fell in love with her. She ended up living to nearly 16 years old and was a really wonderful dog and I still miss her a lot....I'll never forget the day I met her I haven't got to the end of the thread yet so will comment again, but that's absolutely a great story! Who knows where she would have ended up if not for you and she obviously had a long life of being loved Thank you

Why my dog is not desexed is not relevant in this thread. There is a good and responsible reason.

Thanks for your explanation, I'm not a breeder. I don't plan to breed her. You didn't answer my question. In my experience, being entire or desexed doesn't seem to make an important difference in how a bitch reacts to strange puppies. This seems to be more to do with the bitch's own personality - fearful, timid, playful, out-going, etc. However, at certain stages in the oestral cycle bitches can be more moody or more sooky. Hormonal spikes can occur for a couple of weeks prior and during oestrus and for the two months following a season - some bitches are more affected than others, just as some women can be more sensitive to hormonal spikes than other women. If your bitch has just gone out of season or is due to come into season then she may be having hormonal spikes and the sight of the puppies may be exacerbating this. What was she like when she was in season? If she was particularly moody, this may be relevant. Having said all this, it has been my experience that most dogs of either sex, entire or otherwise, are very interested in puppies. This is probably instinct - just as most humans respond naturally to babies (although pregnant and lactating women generally have a stronger response). Thank you, what you've just explained is what I've been thinking actually. She's been on heat once and was very moody and according to what I've read she should be due to be on heat again in the next month or so. Would it be normal for her to drool over the puppies though? When I say drool, she has a constant stream of drool running from her mouth when she's near the pups, it's completely out of character for her.

Thanks Clyde, I appreciate your advice. The puppies are kept in a separate room or in a play pen. My girl has been extremely interested in them, hanging around wanting to get to know them but also seems a bit unsure. I've picked the pups up a few times and shown them to her and she had a sniff and then I put them back in their pen. They will never be alone together because these are rescue pups that have probably come from a hard life and don't need the extra stress. My girl isn't aggressive at all so I was interested to know what her drooling was about. Again, thank you.

I had a 'what the' moment as well. There's 1 girl and 1 boy....My girls has been having most interaction through the puppy playpen so far (since yesterday) but I would like the pups to have some exposure to an adult dog. I have read that drooling means stress but it just doesn't seem that way to me.

Thanks for your explanation, I'm not a breeder. I don't plan to breed her. You didn't answer my question.

Yes, she is "untouched, has everything in place" so I'm not sure if she's having maternal moments with the pups or whether it is stressing her out.

A study says dogs care, wow, I think most people who care about their dogs would know this without some researcher saying it.....dah

I tried saying 'no' to those photos... it just came out 'nnnnnoawwww!' That is one cute pup :D

A most excellent idea, perhaps a law that prevents vets putting their prices up because they are the only health care option, or a law preventing emergency vets from charging more because they're the only place open at 2 in the morning, would also be effective? I agree with you Lilli that when dog breeders do a few years at university to deserve their right to breed, they can negotiate a price. Putting a dog and bitch together and waiting for them to mate doesn't make a person eligible to charge outrageous prices. Are you a fan of puppy farmers?

sorry, I didn't explain very well, I have just taken on a couple of foster pups (7 weeks old) and my girl is drooling and hanging around them and sniffing around wherever they are kept. She doesn't appear to be aggressive at all, I am just concerned about how she is handling it because of her reaction. I'm unsure about fostering pups again if she will be stressed about it.

Thank you thats a lovely thing to say ! You might not think you have a wonderful story but im sure it is. Id love to hear how you met your dogs or cats or whatever creatures are in your life. Ok, my German Shephard was a shy, scared, skinny little girl who was 5 weeks old, she was the only pup, backyard breeder, but I fell in love with her. She ended up living to nearly 16 years old and was a really wonderful dog and I still miss her a lot....I'll never forget the day I met her

You must have a very nice vet, it would have made it so much easier for you

Hi All Can anyone tell me whether fully sexed female dogs have natural instincts which desexed females dont? Just wondering if there are differences in their behaviour as this is my first girl which I haven't had desexed. My girl is 12 months old.

I don't have any great stories about meeting my dogs, but I just wanted to say that you have beautiful, happy dogs and this is a nice positive thread

I couldn't agree with your more, I thought about it for nearly 3 years before my girl finally needed it (only because she lived far longer than would be expected), it's a very hard decision to make because you don't want to put them down if they're not suffering but sometimes it's hard to know. I decided it was time and I was on the phone asking a mobile vet to come out the next day to put my girl to sleep, as soon as I hung up I heard a thud in the lounge room and there she was paralized.

My first dog, a beautiful border collie x had cancer and I decided to let her die naturally at home as it was going to be painless for her. The morning that she died, she was acting weird, then her front legs collapsed and she laid down and passed out. I rushed her to the vet to have her euthinased in cased she woke up and suffered. There was no way I was going to leave her side even though her body was "fitting", all I cared about was that she knew I was there when her heart stopped. My second dog had to be euthinased at 15 yo because she collapsed and couldn't move so I took her to the vets straight away. I couldn't imagine not being there when my beloved pet takes his/her last breath. As hard as it is watching them die, I wouldn't change it for the world. I have always planned on having a mobile vet come out to my house to do this so my dog can be as comfortable as possible, but unfortunately circumstances didn't allow it. I would also like to add that when I took my 2nd dog in last year, the vet nurse was absolutely wonderful and made it much easier for me.