Keltoi

Hi, I am not sure what kind of blue staffords you are looking at but all the ones I have come across have Black Noses, Dark Nails and Dark Eyes with good confirmation and these are Australian breed dogs most champions in the ring. As for skin Allergies ect they are no different to any other Stafford I think its a case of you like them or you don't there are predigest people every where and just because they dont like the colour does not mean they are a bad dog and should be baged it is still a Staffordshire Bull Terrier in every way. The looks, temperment and their love of people I can keep going on, A Stafford is a Stafford no matter the colour. Don't judge a book by its cover:) If there are bad Staffords out there Its the person who breed the dog or owns the dog you should look at as some of these can be rough around the edges.

Hi All, This is still about the 11 month old Staffy. We have now finally found out from the vet that first and mostly treated this dog that the dog has Spastic Enrtopion (caused by foreign body in eyes this is not genetic ). All this started with a skin allergy due to inadiquet diet and conjunctivitis in both eyes. stated by vet to us. It has now been three days and I am still waiting for the vets detailed report I have contacted her repeatedly to ask why she has not sent the report yet with out any success in reaching her, she was reluctant and did not want to do this. We had offered back then to pay for half the eye surgery only (this was agreed verbally) as the owner said it was genetic entropion and still considering to do so even though this has nothing to do with genetics I have contacted DNA Office and got written reports from them on both of these issuse and also in these reports states non genetic. Owners still expect us to pay, but not half the bill they want it all paid for, including food, toys and nic/nacs NONE of It is GENETIC so we are not obligated but we were willing to help untill they got dishonest and greedy. With the vet is she obligated to write a honest report as she was the person that treated the animal and verbally told us its diagnoses.I have spoken to other vets and they say that they would not have any problems with this and dont know why she has. What do you guys think and what would you advice on this issue ???? Again Thank You All In Advance

Really? So if a breeder sells a puppy with entropian on all four lids, cherry eye, skin allergies, etc the puppy owner should wear those costs??? Sorry, but that is not fair. If someone forks out for a pedigree puppy, they should get something healthy!! If they dont want to send the pup back,and get a full refund,then yes,that is fair.If they wish to keep the pup,why should the breeder then have to keep paying for vet bills past the purchase price when they do have the option to send it back and get a refund. Dogs can get sick,develop problems same as a human can,despite being from healthy parents and i think to refund/replace or in this case pay for op,is fair. I know someone who has spent thousands on their dog who developed allergies to pretty much everything environmental-he requires weekly injections,sometimes twice a week of the specialist allergy injection,they have chosen to pay for it rather than send the dog back -their choice,they have to wear the cost. Flame suit firmly in place. The entropian is a hereditary? condition, the dermatitis, and the mites are environmental? The toys should not even be on the bill. Make sure the bill os on the vets own letterhead paper, and then get it all itemised. Mites, and fleas well any dog can get that in its enviroment, the dermatitis, well maybe that is environmental and even dietary too. Are we talking all these conditions picked up in the first week of the pup being taken home? If this all happened within the first week ( eg buyers first vet check and they can say the pup came with these things reasonably then maybe they can argue costs of mites etc, but not if after all this, and it sounds like a 1st check was not done by the buyer. Hi,No the dog was bought from us at 8weeks old passed vet health checks before leaveing us. His problems started around 8months old with the mites/dermatitis then with in a week or so his eye he is now 11mths old and just had the surgery for entropion. Thanks

Thank you for your imput

Hi, Thanks for you time they have stated it was mites and dermatits this dates to the first vet check in Dec 09. At the moment I am waiting for two different vets that they used to contact me and let me know which one of three Entropion his is classed as, (1st-Deveopement, 2nd-Spastic entropion,or 3rd-cicatricial entropian) as they are all caused by different things. Again Thank you

Hi, Can I please ask what you guys recommend, We breed staffies and have never had any problems with any of our pups. This will be a first three months ago we get advised that a 11 mth old male pup we sold has got entropian, we offered to take the dog back but owner stated that his girlfrriend won't part with the pup so we offered to pay half of the initial surgery only, they agreeded. 4 mths later and he has just had his surgery and we have recieved the bills. This is what I would like your advise on from what all the bills state -December 2009 was the first visit to the vet and he gets diagnosed with parasites, dermatitis and the eyes but surgery can not take place till parasites are gone so 3months and a number of vet bills later before he has his surgery done. Now all the bills before his surgery are to do with parasites and dermatitis not to mention treats, pet accessories and dog food are also included a few checks of the eyes dye rinse ect at the same time and a bill for stiching the eyes up temporarily till the parasites and dermatitis was clear for the real surgery. So the question I am trying to get to is all the bill prior to initial surgery would you say is the responsibility of the owners because if the dog did not have all the other problems which are no fault of his own his surgery would have been done moths ago and the cost would have been much less. We are still offering to pay half the initial surgery like agreeded, but I can not see how all the other bills should be included because parasites and dermatitis and all the accessories ect have nothing to do with initial entrropian surgery and any eye cost included in those bills are due to his condition (parasites and dermatitis). What do you guys think? and Thank you The dog in question here got diagnosed at 8 months of age he is now 11 months old. His owners bought him from us as a pup 8 weeks old and he was vaccinated, wormed and micro-chipped and had a full vet check ,Vet stated all pups in good health before they left us for there new homes. PPS, Finnally got hold of the vet that treated the dog from start (but was not the vet that did the surgery they took him to another vet as she would not do him) this is what she said. The dog has a skin allergy due to bad diet and conjunctivitis in both eyes ,the allergie was itchy the dog rubbed his eyes so servilely coursing an ulcer in the eye, next vist the vet classes it spastic entropion which means foreign bodies in the eyes (eg grass seeds or sand) (the only reason the vet said genetic is due to the dog been at the age of hormone changes. But Spastic Entropion is not the same as Developed Entropion two different things and her diagnosis was Spastic Entropion. Now we are just waiting for the vet to email a written letter to state all that she has told me over the phone which she seemed very reluctant to do. so now waiting. PS I'd like to Thank in advance all who have taken time to give me there advice and opinions. THANK YOU