Marion 01

I voted no a few times. Why on earth pick on Rotties. I had a Rotti/Bullmastiff once and I wish I had taken a pic of her and I sitting on our garden seat waiting for OH to get home from work. She had the Rotti colours but looked more like a mastiff, Couldn't have got sookier dog, she loved everything and everybody. The trouble is with these people who are talking about banning different breeds, they have probably never been within cooee of them.

Thanks english.ivy and crisovar, looks like Bundy is the closest.

Does anyone know of any Black Hawk Holistic dry food distributors in the Central Queensland area. Near Rockhampton. Thanks.

Love it Sheena, very simple and easy to navigate. You've done a good job.

HarperGD, have you thought about getting another dog for company for him. I have had multiple dogs for as long as I can remember, big , small, medium, and never trained any of them, they were household companions, not working dogs, and have never had a problem with any of them. I was always their top dog, so never had a dominance thing going. If you have to train a dog the way your trainer said, I can't see the point. He is probably taking the vibes from you and your situation, and reacting to them, and upset when you leave him alone, he thinks you are leaving him too.

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Maybe a Bichon, or a Lhasa, or Tibetan Terrier as has already been suggested. My Tibetan Terriers are lap dogs, very trainable, very intelligent, velcro type dogs, supervisors of everything you do. Yes and definately not a terrier. Not all small dogs are real lap dogs though, have had some big dogs who thought they were lap dogs.

It is amazing just how long some dogs live for. Just had a friend up from Toowoomba for the Rocky Swap and he was telling us that when they bought their farm they got a little foxy/chihuahua cross and she died at 23 years old. I always thought that Chihuahuas had a very short life span, but this little cross breed certainly lived a long time. My oldest Tibetan Terrier lived until he was just over 16 yrs, and I have another one at the moment who turned 15 a week ago. She is arthritic and partly blind, but is still very much alert.

I would make 1/3 of the house just for the dogs, a big end room where they could go out into a fenced area off the house. The floors would be all textured tiled or pebbletex to about 1foot up the walls. The room would have a grooming area, bath area etc and just a lounge area, so that when non doggy people come to visit they can be all put in there (the dogs I mean) and still have access to the outside as well. I have already planned a house like this, but haven't got to use it, yet.

We get fresh meaty beef neck bones done up in trays of 4 or however many you want if you ask the butchers in Coles in Shopping Fair. I would say that the neck bones are cut into 3, as the size of the bones are just over 1" across. My dogs love them, and don't waste any time demeating them.

Not sure how the first two dogs feel about it, but the one nearest to the chap doesn't seem to be worried. Nice pic.

Congratulations 55 Canines, very nice.

My daughters BC plays totem tennis with the kids ( they don't really get a choice), he has his spot and waits until the ball comes his way and catches it, then swings it on to whoever is standing next to him. He will play for hours.

I grew up with German Shepherds, then while we still had the GS I got a long Haired Chihuahua, then a Papillon, then came the Bichons, we ended up with 4 over the years 2 girls, 2 boys, our last boy died from a stroke last year at 15.1/2 yrs of age, Got my 1 st Tibetan Terrier in 1994 and started showing him when he was 15 months old, he absolutely loved the show ring, so we thought we would get another to show, but the next boy didn't like showing, so he was desexed and became a lounge lizard, all in all we ended up with 11 of them and only 2 who were interested in showing, and one liked obedience, the others just loved the relaxed life of leisure. Only have 4 Tibetan Terriers left now, and the oldest one was 15 yrs old on Wednesday. A very addictive breed.

Just made this one.

OK, so I lied. Last one, I'm all logo'd out.

Here's another one, last one I promise.

Thanks Bilbo Baggins.

Here is another one from me.

Here's one I prepared earlier, but I spelt it wrong, so here's the one I just prepared.

It's been my pleasure to do this for you Rach. Love the cross and the suncatchers. Are the little doggies like a polymer clay type stuff.

Which breeds in your opinion have changed Marion1? I have been showing dogs for 35 years and yes I could name one specific breed(that we used to own) that in my opinion has changed in size as such,ie, has gotten smaller in size over the years, but other than that breeds of 35 years ago look very much like the ones being bred today. There are still good and bad examples of every breed out there now, as there was 35 years ago. There are healthy dogs and unhealthy ones in every breed. And this has been the case for many years. What does change are breeders views and how their interpretations of the standard are applied to the breeds they own. With these differing interpretations, comes differing types of the same breed. Good and bad. If these specimens are shown then it is also the judges interpretation of the standard which may mean that the dog gets awarded or not. I was told many years ago that in each and every breed, you can just about bet good money on the fact that there are some superb examples of each breed sitting somewhere in a persons backyard, that does not get shown. 30 years ago alot of breeders then certainly did not breed just for the money. They bred for the love of the breed, to preserve breed type as close to the standard as possible and to show their stock off to the world. Looking at photos of breeds of dogs 30 years ago or more every breed still had breed type then, as they do now. For without breed type you dont have a breed. If pedigree dogs of today were solely bred just for pets then we would have no need to retain standards, as they would be totally unimportant. In my opinion that would be such a wrong thing to do. Take the likes of the British Bulldog for example. If it wasnt for the advent of dog shows then the BB would of become virtually extinct when the barbaric sport of Bullbaiting became outlawed in 1835. And just for a little bit of history for those who are interested the oldest breed Club in the world is The Bulldog Club Inc. Hello Bullbreedlover I totally agree with you on the breed type etc, and the fact that pedigree dogs should not only be bred for pets. The judges interpretation of the standard goes a long way to setting new goals for breeding, ie., if a dog that is the correct conformation and size according to the standard is constantly passed over in favour of a dog who may/may not be an import that a judge prefers and who is bigger than the standard, breeders have a tendency to breed for that size, thus ignoring the standard. I know standards are there for a guide and open to interpretation, but gee just how much "give or take" should there be. Healthy or unhealthy comes back to either luck, or bad breeding. It's only if breeders test their breed for diseases with the technology available to them, will we overcome some of the health issues. Our family first was introduced to the pedigree dog back in 1957 when I was a 10yr old kid, he was a beautiful Cocker Spaniel which my mum showed. I didn't get into dog showing until 16 years ago, with Tibetan Terriers, but haven't been showing since we retired our beautiful show boy a few years ago. To answer your question, a breed that my family has had since I was a 14 yrs old kid, is the German Shepherd., and my daughter also grew up with German Shepherds. We had the black and gold and also the white over the years, and in between the time we got one of our white GS and when we were looking for another one, they had disappeared only to come back a few years ago with a totally new name and not even recognised as a GS any more, plus the black and gold ones were now sporting sloped backs which didn't get there by accident I might add. Good and bad examples of any breed exist, what I have noticed is sizing (bigger) more than looks in a lot of the breeds, and of course a lot of dogs are more glamourised for show purposes even recent breeds that haven't been here for long when they were first introduced they were to be shown as natural as possible but now I see they are being trimmed to perfection, which then takes away the character that the dog is meant to portray.

If pedigree dogs were being bred for pets or to do what they were intended to do, as in working dogs, herding dogs etc and not being shown, there would not have been any need to change many of the breeds to conform to the show ring. I would much rather see some breeds as they were 30 or 40 years ago, as against some of the specimens of today.

The way I see it from reading all the posts( and it's only my observation btw), for this, against this, and in between, each has their beliefs as to what is best. Seems like this argument is going to be a never ending story right up until it's too late, and then what?

Poodlefan the wolf article was a result of my post re wild animals and their way of controlling their lines. It was a very interesting read.