~Anne~

I am sorry but that is seriously naive. Especially with Child Protection. If you truly think that if you have done nothing wrong, that they will never come up with false allegations / concerns etc, you are wrong. Child Protection are dangerous. They don't need hard evidence to take your children, just if on the "balance of probabilities" they feel their suspicions are justified, whether they are real or not, especially when it comes to "sexual abuse". But this is probably starting to go off topic from a dog forum. However I would also be concerned if the RSPCA turned up at my house based on false allegations. I wouldn't let them inside my home, no matter what. Naive? No, not naive at all. The greater majority of parents and dog owners never have issues with DOCS or the RSPCA and if a complaint was lodged falsely, then they would be cleared as the OP has been, without a problem. Very few people in all reality have their children taken from them unneccessarily and very few people in all reality have their dogs seized for no reason.

The document is so stupid it is scary. Who was the idiots behind writing it? I am not sure if I should laugh, cry or go make another coffee. It is all too resoundingly dumbass for my brain to accept. Is Adolf behind this document? If your dog is blue eyed and white haired, it is not considered to be a Pb.

It is written just like a standard, not a guide to detemrine a Pb? It is bizarre. Judging by the document, blue eyed dogs, white dogs and merles are safe.

The Daily Hansard, the Hon. P. R. HALL (Minister for Higher Education and Skills) tabled the following: After this date [30 Sept 2011] any owner of an unregistered restricted breed dog will be liable for the offence of keeping a restricted breed dog, for which 10 penalty units apply. Furthermore, the restricted breed dog will also be able to be seized under section 79 of the Domestic Animals Act 1994 and ultimately destroyed. This seems to mean, for example, that if you have a SBT or x-breed and don't feel a need to register as a restricted breed dog because you know it is not an APBT, but some official decides your dog is an APBT after reading the standard they are publishing, your dog is likely to be destroyed. I don't think that means totally unregistered . . . and I don't think prior registration, eg, as a SBT, helps. The justification for the law given in the Daily Hansard makes it clear that they are trying to crack down on people who pass off restricted breed dogs as non-restricted breeds. But it does say 'unregistered' so why do you think it doesn't mean registered with Council? Is there a definition in the Act for the word 'regsitered'?

Barry's name when he first came in as a rescue was Sebastian. His new owners re-named him Barry.

I know of a Pug called Barry! I laughed my head off when I first heard it. Dogs don't care what you call them. They largely go by the tone of your voice at any rate I think and the sound of the whole word.

I am a dog person and yet I don't understand crating to the excess degree that I hear of. The justification I hear for some crating actually sickens me. (I have bolded excess crating for a purpose - I am not referring to short term, overnight or temporary crating)

So, it appears there is no basis for the fear of dogs being misdientified being killed. From a logic veiwpoint, why would Councils kill a dog mistakenly identified (or purposefully) as another breed, and yet allow a dog that is registered as a Pb live even though the Pb is allegedly the dog that is the risk? It doesn't make any sense what so ever. Issue fines, change the registration details, whatever, but kill the dog? I can't see it.

Would they be keeping ancestoral records that included genetic diseases? If they were keeping records, then no, I wouldn't neccessarily have an issue with this although there is more to being a breeder than keeping records.

I don't plan on having a dog in my retirement. My retirement will hopefully be filled with lots of travel and this is difficult when you own pets.

A dog that is registered as something other than a Pb and then Council determining it has been incorrectly identified and is a Pb.

It's a media article?? The media can't get the breed right let alone facts about the changes to the Act. Regardless, I still can't see anything that states they will be killed though if they are mis-identified? The amendments do not suggest that mis-identified dogs will be killed.

What leea said. Also, they don't just mean registered with the council, they mean registered as a restricted dog. If you own a staffy and it isn't registered as a PB, if it fails the visual test after 30 sept it will be seized and PTS. There will be no opportunity to then register it as a PB. Bull breed owners face the decision whether to register their dogs as PB's now or run the risk of PTS after 30 sept. Can you provide a link to back this up? I ask this not because I think you need to provide evidence of your statements, but because I can not find anything that suggests dogs will be killed if they are registered as one breed and the Council deems them to be another.

If its registered, then you have nothing to worry about it appears. BSL was introduced in Vic in 2005. Anyone who still hasn't registered their dog is a moron in my view. You've had 6 years to do it.

It sounds like the Police Officer may have thought there was more to it. I mean, why report anything to DOCS as well...DOCS can't do anything about the dogs? Obviously you have children too. Surely the Police can tell the difference between what happened with the break-in and what they assumed was the normal living conditions. Sorry, nothing makes sense with the story. At any rate, if you are doing nothing worng then you have nothing to be concerned about. Be thankful that this kind of action taken by the officer my help save a child or animal from abuse.

They don't dislike it, but it seems to stop their desire to toilet in that area. I have had a couple of adult rescues that it hasn't worked with (males marking mainly), nothing is a miracle cure, but by and large it works for most of them. Mind you, your house ends up smelling like Grandmas...but that's better than the smell of urine!

Not a chance - its just some fanatics beating up a way to get donations. Ouch

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Their search doesn't work for me? I keep putting in my area and it tells me that I haven't selected a location?

Treat her like an 8 week old puppy. Take her outside to the toilet, on lead if need be, every time she wakes, eats, finishes playing and just every so often for the sake of it. The more times you get her to toilet in the right spot and praise her, the quicker she will catch on. Don't wait for her to want to go, you pre-empt her going and take her before she goes. You need to apply the 3 P's Patience Persistence Praise The more persistent you are at this time and the longer you keep persisting, the better long term outcome. If this means you have to stop what you are doing 20 times a day, so be it. Clean the areas she has toileted thoroughly with an enzyme based cleaner and drop some lavender oil around the spot. The way that she is toileting on 'things' may have nothing to do with her being a pet shop puppy. It may simply be previous training or her instinct. I can pick a puppy trained to paper or towels because they will always find a mat or paper on the floor to toilet on. never train a pup to paper, take them onto the grass and train them there.

Didn't notice it... I was too busy looking at the gorgeous dogs (including Reg!)

Looks great! Is that your photography too or theirs?? I must remember to buy a subscription to this mag. I've been meaniing to for a long while but because I haven't seen it in a while now, I keep forgetting. It is a really good read with some interesting and very relevant articles! I have saved every copy I have ever picked up.

Yes, that's the point. Anything will reinforce what they already think. Regardless of whether they are pro-pitbull or anti-pitbull. Regardless of whether there are tattoos in the video or fluffy bunnies. So what's the big deal? So, instead of trying to change perception you feel it is easier to reinforce the perception? Given that we are all in agreement that the perception is wrong I find that an interesting view point.

Absolutely.

No, what I have done is explain one very powerful aspect of human psychology that is relevant to the discussion. I never said you can't alter perceptions. I said a single video won't change anyone's mind. I doubt a single video will alter perceptions, either when it comes to it, even in fence-sitters. Unless it's a very clever one. Anyone who watches the Gruen knows there is a lot of psychology in advertising. ;) What's a pro-pittie video in the scheme of things? Nothing. The ones that already like pitties will still like them, the fence-sitters will be looking for more balanced information, and the ones that already don't like pitties will still dislike them. Sorry to rain on your parade, but brow-beating the folks that like the vid about the content of the video and different ideas of public perception and associations is a little pointless in the face of it. Why don't people put their energy towards more constructive things, like pooling all their ideas and criticisms and launching a campaign to 'workover' the public perception of pitbulls, for example? If you all know how to do it better, then go do it better. Rain on my parade? Brow beating? I consider my advice very constructive. I gave my thoughts on both the good and bad from a marketing perspective because that is how I view such materials. This is an internet discussion forum. That's what a discussion forum is all about, discussing things and offering opinions.