~Anne~

In the end it all comes down to the rescue group, the rescuer and the day. In having said that, I firmly believe that all rescues should operate as a business and not as a charity firstly and as an organisation that prevents unneccessary euthanasia of animals secondly. Without the first you can't do the second. What cases, dogs and homes each rescue takes on is their decision though and should be made with forethought and within the guidelines set down by that group.

Oh hello! I didn't know you had joined DOL too. :laugh: You'll find DOL a wonderful source of information as well. My advice though is to steer clear of the politics on here. You'll soon understand this staement if you don't already. :) I haven't checked my emails as yet, but will later.

Sure, I understand. Are you able to describe the difference between the pic you have and the Kendra pugs. I think I have seen it described as full colour and not a fawn with lots of guard hairs, which would be smutty. The Kendra pugs appera to have full colour.

I think the bit about being treated badly is from her blog (there is a link off her site to it). It seems she feels that the AKC hasn't treated her fairly with her breeding program.

You won;t find them in the animal aisle. They're compost bins and kept where the other compost bins are kept. Edited to add a description - it is flat packed and consists of 4 mesh panels that are almost square.

My pugs like everyone although Boof will bark incessantly at one of my brothers. I am not sure why it started but my brother now enjoys encouraging him. :rolleyes: I rarely see my brother and yet when he does walk through my door Boof immediately reacts.

Puglvr, are you able to post up the pic you have. Have you heard before of the blue colour referred to on the American site?

I've also used two joined together to make a fence across my yard. I use those plastic loop tie things to secure it as the coil ones that come with it aren't good with a lot of movement.

This breeder is apparently breeding legitimate silver pugs in the US my US friends tell me. http://www.silverpug.cc/ Its an interesting read, although not overly detailed, and also talks of blue pugs.

That's lovely. :) I also has cause to contact a Pug breeder last year after a couple contacted me regarding an 11 year old who needed to find a new home. The breeder had stopped breeding many years before, and in fact this pug if I recall was from her last litter, but she welcomed her back with open arms.

The brindle gene must have been carried by one of the dogs. Pugs do not carry the brindle gene, just like, for example, the Maltese or poodle do not carry the gene for a black mask. :)

From Pugs.com;

I treated a couple of Pugs, one of which was really bad. We persisted with her baths and ivermectin (?) by mouth. It was Winter too and waiting the 10 minutes whilst she turned into an icicle was awful and I couldn't put a coat on her as the Vet said it best to let her skin breathe so she was a cold a lot. It took time, but she improved greatly.

Thakfully with Pugs Ive never really had the issue. Perhaps try to get the trust back by buying a bbq'd chook and offering him a tidbit every 30 minutes or so, minus any meds, until he trusts you. Then using a pill cutter, break it up into the smallest bits you can (perhaps quarters). Place alittle in each tidbit. Offer him one with tablet, a couple without.

I do want to strangle him each and every day anyway but he has been sleeping all morning so he has me lulled in to a false sense of serenity with his cuteness.:laugh: I was in Palm Beach, Sydney. He is crate trained but the ticks are so bad there, no fencing and he is dirty indoors. He would have to be in a crate at all times except for toilet breaks which just isn't fair on him - and he would be vocal about it too! I had plans to catch up with friends each day and go shopping so I would have felt guilty knowing he was crated all day, plus all night. He is very active! I am going on a real holiday in March so am rethinking my options. I have the same girl house sitting and while I know she wouldn't take her eyes off him after what she went through, I think she would be relieved if he just wasn't here altogether. Last time I went away I boarded him with a friend in Sydney but I don't think she's keen to have him back.......:laugh: I do have dogs runs though so I guess she could just treat him like a boarder, but he really loves being with us inside etc. He is snoring at my feet now!:D He's always welcome to spend some time with my 3 if you need to have him looked after.

:laugh: I can recall when you first came here looking for a puppy. It seems sooo long ago now. I came here because of Dougie.

Clearly some cross bred Pugs with Bostons and French Bulldogs there and nothing to be proud and a lot of dogs with poor conformataion. I have to agree. Steve - there is no other colour in the 'traditional' Pug although some will argue the silver is a knwn gene. Pugs only have genes for balck and fawn. Apricot is a variation of fawn. I believe silver is as well. I used to have alink that explained the genetics of it in a way that we more readily understood by the layman, but I have lost it and a quick google has not made it re-surface. White, brindle and the rest are pugs that have had another breed introduced to breed a dog of that colour. There are some registries across the world now accepting these colours. The AKC still doesn't I don't think and they aren't accepted in the UK either I believe.

Friday the 13th seems like a good omen for you!

The silver is not actually a separate colour (although some will argue this). Silver is merely a version of smutty fawn. Pugs come in 2 colours only which are black and fawn. Apricot and silver are variations of these. There is no other colour in the breed.

If he was wandering and he isn't taken to the local vet or pound they're doing the wrong thing. If they are taking him because they've found him then no one would be accusing then of anything as a thief wouldn't take him there looking for an owner. I understand what you are saying but I was thinking of the alert being more noticeable If it said stolen. Anyway, it was just a thought and possibly not a good one. I keep checking hoping he's snuffling and sneezing in Clydes arms already. Clyde, the bird idea might be a possibility but I wouldn't think it a high chance.

At this time of year there are loads of holiday makers around too so if he has been taken, he could end up anywhere. Don't forget to contact Council and have him listed as stolen in case he comes into a Vet clinic somewhere as someone's pet. Hopefully, you'll have him creating havoc in your life again by the days end though.

I am so sorry Clyde. Are you on a large property? I could perhaps drive over early tomorrow morning and help search? I am in Sydney today and not much use.

Don't give up. It must be hard but try to keep positive. I am a huge believer in positive energy.