~Anne~

I doubt it. They were pushing the rarity quite heavily. The sire and dam were imports and it seems that they 'lucked out' with the offspring showing some remarkable rare colouring. Who knows if it is legit as far as BB colours go but they are advertising them as desexed, registered, chipped and vaccinated.

The ad actually states the puppies will be desexed before going to their new home. Hardly the actions of a big bad puppy farmer.

I am lead to believe that is the reason for the new grading system. The new system uses other characteristics to determine the potential for the tumour to cause an escalation of concern. All of Boof's have been low grade on the new system, and grade 1 and 2 on the older scale.

They can't die from it but they can become very sick from secondary infections and the condition can be very painful and uncomfortable. If it is sarcoptic it is also contagious. The longer the pup is hanging around the more chance there are of more dogs being affected. I agree with the Revolution tip however if it is so bad then the pup needs more than a haphazard treatment plan. Being a camp dog it is in for a battle with life as it is. It might be kinder to round it up and euth it now instead of prolonging its misery.

Has the vet explained all the outcomes? What does he/she say about the life expectancy before and or after, with or without, and what the complications may be? I am experiencing mast cell tumours with one of my boys. We've had 5 so far, all removed, and graded 1 and 2 but low grade so far. There are two grading systems. The most common still uses 1 - 3 grade. To put it in perspective and to illustrate why I I think you need to understand the grading is because this will predict life expectancy. In summary, in an older study I read while researching MCTs it followed 83 dogs diagnosed with various grades of MCT. One of the areas the research looked at was life expectancy. The dogs were selected after the lesions were removed with clear margins. More than 90% of the dogs with grade 1 tumours were still alive more than 1500 days after diagnoses. 47% of dogs with grade 2 were alive at 1500 days and only 6% of grade 3 dogs were still alive. 1500 days is equivalent to more than 4 years. There is no way of knowing the grade until it is resected and tested and the dogs above all had them removed and tested. However, I'd be inclined to think in your situation it may not be high grade because your dog is still alive and well and not showing symptoms 2 years later. Of course, that is only a guess. You cannot know until it is removed and examined and my thinking could be filled with flaws. I'd be speaking with your vet. I must have up to 2 or three discussions about each new issue with my boy before we make a decision together about his treatment. Im sure your mum is a very knowledgable woman, but your vet is trained in and educated in the field. He is the expert. Discuss it some more with him. Many dogs also cope with major surgery at advanced ages, my boy who is 10 is possibly going to have to undergo the removal of his spleen. If we do this, it will be after many discussions as always with my vet. Good luck with whichever way you go.

Why would she suffer dry mouth? Is it because the thinking is that the amount to be excised would be too large to close or join any skin over? If it has been there for 2 years it must be low grade or you would think the repercussions would be felt by now. If it is low grade, I believe she is heading into 'no return' territory anyway after 2 years of it being there. If it were me, I think I would possibly lean toward my original decision. There's no putting shutting the gate if the horse has bolted as they say. In having said all that, it really is up to you and your family to decide in consultation with your vet.

Surely the ranger could tell if the animal was shot though before it was hung on the fence. Maybe trapping leaves less marks but even then the animals neck would have to be broken to kill it? I would think that they are investigating the cause of death. They cant be that stupid.

To be just as picky and technical as you, the word public in this instance refers to it being openly accessible to the public. You don't need to be a member to read this thread.

Each State is different. In NSW we do not have state limits, only local council by-laws that can recommend and or enforce limits. We also have the option of applying for a kennel license (I can't recall the exact name for this but it is similar to a development styled application in process I believe), which is what greyhound owners, larger breeding programs, and rescues I believe are or should be operating under.

If it is true that she also enquirer after a dog that was already essentially 'rescued' to add to her over number brood then she has acted foolishly. Still, that doesn't help the current situation. She needs to explore her options. Petitioning and looking to do battle is not going to help her individual circumstance at this point.

What a difficult situation she is in. It seems from where I am standing is that she either needs to apply for a special permit, assuming there is one, to keep the extra dogs or she needs to re-home a few. Is there an option to apply for a kennel license or something that would enable her to have more dogs on the property? Sorry, I a, not up on recent law changes. Disabled and old dogs can be rehomed. I've rehomed several disabled pugs, including one that was deaf and blind and had never lived inside. Ever tried training a 9 year old deaf and blind dog?

That is a stunning pic of her Wendy. Every day is another day in a life without them. I understand how you feel. I treasure my videos which bring Monte back to life for a brief moment.

The RSPCA in Sydney has done this for some time. I know as I was once contacted by them for a dog that was considered a pug, and that was at least 5 or 6 years ago. Before I could be listed on their rescue list I had to be inspected and assessed as if I was entering into a foster care relationship with them. They do not operate like pounds so you won't get called every time and you can't simply just request which dogs you would like. They only allow rescue to take them if they are being euthd for more simple reasons. In the case of the pug x, he had a flea allergy and was not toilet trained. Sadly, this meant he was not adoptable and he either came to me or was euthd. He came to me and I confess to feeling resentful at the time because it felt like I was being held to ransom almost over such simple problems.

She looks like a Pug x Cav.

Lovely pic. Annabelle is an interesting looking dog... I wonder what her pups are crossed with? The markings look like Tenties or something but they could be anything. Pug x Frenchie x ?

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At this stage, it looks like the dogs are going first to the RSPCA foster carers already on board - which makes sense. They asked for help from the wider community because they don't have enough carers. I suppose then they'll weed through the other applications and choose people. I don't think there will actually be any rescue groups on a whole. They need anyone - not necessarily a group. I'm of the understanding that PnH are taking in a number of the dogs.

Prediction: Tim will replace Coleman within the next 5 years.

The question isn't about which home is better. Obviously a home where someone is there all day is great for any dog, let alone a pug. The real question is - are some rescues setting the limitations to extremes and is it beneficial to rescue overall? These dogs are not all locked in yards of 'backyard breeders' either, that kind of exaggerated emotional claptrap really gets my goat. The need for pugs is much higher than the supply, hence why SOS can purchase advertised pugs from the Internet and on-sell them without the need to negotiate their rehoming criteria. I was also why I was able to take in surrenders without a concern. Other rescuers, where the market is flooded, say for example Staffys, would never be able to set the bar as high or on-sell dogs because they would end up having to watch other staffys die while they did this. As I said in my last post, it is up to the individual rescue to state their terms. In the pug world, we are lucky we can have the bar so high. For mixed breeds and other breeds as I illustrated above, they simply can't as it would mean the death of innocent dogs.

Sorry - off topic. They were so cute together. They played together and ate from the same bowl. Sadly, Sidney was killed by a car in front of Nancy and her adoptive owners.

All I can see is anecdotal evidence and there is just as much evidence for and against littermates being together. There certainly is not enough to make me change my view at this point. Personally, I've had 2 sets of littermates over my life and they weren't pugs and they were fine. I have two friends currently with littermates with no issues. I've re-homed 2 sisters, pugs, and they were great. All anecdotal and much like everyone else's arguments against. Sisters who adored each other, Elka and Lulu, later renamed as Sid and Nancy. They even appeared to mimic each other in pose.

Lovely pics. He looks like he is recovering well.

Well said. I agree.

Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with buying littler mates. I don't think the theory of issues with litter mates is based on anything substantial. What a sad scenario for the family in this situation. Unless the sole remaining dog undergoes some training, there is a good chance it will end up dead before its time too. All because of the idiocy and selfishness of humans.

Staffyluv, I believe Monte was also hungry because his sugar levels dropped after his seizures. Not only that, his system was running so manic and his heart very fast, so it was like he had run a marathon. I usually gave him ice cream or yoghurt. The sugar helped him recover his energy and the coolness of both dishes helped lower his body temperature. Ask your vet if he inks this might help ziggy too. I was always really worried his heart would give out or he would overheat. If it is seizure activity, and it turns out to be epilepsy, it is manageable. Scary at first, but manageable.