~Anne~

Melzawelza, what makes you such an expert in the field of illegal dogfighting? There is no sarcasm in my question. You talk as though you have first hand knowledge. If you aren't actually involved in enforcing the law, the act of illegal dog fighting or some other link to this area then your 'facts' are no more or less authoratative than anyone else's in this thread. Sure I agree there is a lot of rubbish on FB and the internet about alleged dog fighting and dogs being stolen or houses being marked and I've personally pointed this out on several occasions myself online. In this instance however there is enough obvious concern for the various government representatives and the Police to attend this meeting and for the meeting to be called in the first place. There is obviously enough evidence of some description to suggest that there is something happening in this area. I'm at a loss why you want so much to prove that this is just another untrue story.

I've always transported my pugs, and the rescues, in travel crates on the back seat of the car. I currently mainly drive a mazda 2 so it's pretty small. I can fit two crates on the rear seat. I move the passenger seat right back so it sits tight up against the crate on that side or I use the seat belt (just the lap sash part) to secure them.

What's with the questions all the time in these threads? I'd imagine that given it is a public meeting, with local government, state or federal MPs and the police in attendance it isn't someone's imagination running riot about dogs being stolen.

Who lets an 8 month old puppy out of a car, off lead, in a strange area and then on top allows the dog to wander far from eyesight? Is the story true even true? It doesn't make sense to me.

I used it very regularly when I was rescuing and never once encountered any negative or adverse reactions. It is so innocuous it can be given with Sentinel without side effects. Capstar works instantly but only on the fleas that are on the dog and only for a limited period. I think it lasts in the system for about 48 hours. Any fleas that jump on the dog after that will not be affected. I gave it to rescues coming in knowing that I didn't have fleas in the environment. It killed the fleas on them and then the Sentinel ensured that any remaining fleas became sterile and was for the long term.

The bolded bit is what describes it for me. My heart is still broken after losing a Monte in April.

be careful! I used to get the hose and drench the foam, squirt some washing liquid on, walk all over it and the. Soak them with the hose again. You really need warm weather though ideally.

I haven't see these for ages. I love the addition of Benedict. :laugh:

Oh I totally agree. That's why I suggested cooking the meat. Cooking it doesn't make it wrong. :) The implication though from some posters is that it is the wrong thing to do because you're removing nutrients. It's not wrong. It's an option. A very good option in my view and the nutrients lost are negligible. The argument that domestic dogs should be fed a diet resembling wild dogs is not accurate and I will say again that my pugs have no bearing on wild dogs. I'd also suggest that raw feeding causes just as many health problems and illnesses in dogs as commercial feeding. Feeding dogs makes pet owners paranoid these days. I've seen people lay heavy handed guilt trips on those who choose to feed a commercial diet or a kibble only diet while the push the argument that dogs should be fed raw. I don't feed my dogs raw. I used to. I have seen an overall improvement since I stopped feed raw meat. BoxerB, my comments are generalised. I don't care what you feed. I'm sure you think you're feeding what is best.

These threads always make me laugh. Not all dogs are good with raw. This blind faith that people have in follow a diet based on the eating habits of wolves is a cracker. I have Pugs. My pugs have NO left over link to any wild dog. The same goes with many breeds and domestic dogs in general. Some dogs can't eat raw. Mine can't. The OP is concerned about the bacteria in raw meat. Cooking it will resolve that problem and it resolves the problems my pugs have with digesting raw food. As for it removing nutrients, good grief, feeding dogs is not meant to be science. Do you eat your meat raw so you get all the nutrients? The loss of nutrients is negligible. They cannot eat raw whole veges though regardless. Veges have to be cooked or processed. Over the years I've known dogs that have lived till their late teens eating Pal and no-name kibble and scraps. You can say you disagree all you like BoxerB. I've been around long enough and had enough debates on the canine diet to be very comfortable with saying to anyone that well worn saying "the best food for your dog is the food your dog does best on". Fairystar, my advice to you is to listen to all thoughts, do your own research and the feed your dog what you think is best. You will not kill your dog by not feeding it raw. You will not kill your dog by feeding commercial food. Cook your meat or feed it dripping with blood. It's up to you to determine what suits you, your dog and your family.

You can buy mats for those beds but they're not cheap. I used to put covers on the foam. Perhaps make covers that are thicker so that the foam stays clean?

You can feed the mince cooked, not the chicken wings or any bones though. Raw uncooked is actually the same as raw cooked. Many dogs do better on cooked meat as raw meat can upset sensitive stomachs. The veggies cannot be processed by his digestion system unless they've been put through a processor or cooked anyway.

It looks fairly normal to me. He's possibly generated a little bit of bleeding when jumping around. Keep an eye on it and try to keep him quiet. Tdierikx, I think you're thinking the second pic in this thread is the same dog?

From a personal moral standpoint, I would only expect the breeder to compensate me if the condition could have been reasonably foreseen ie if there were known previous cases in the lines and or it was a condition that is normally tested for. Otherwise I can't see that the breeder can be held accountable in any way. If you want a legal view then you would have to contact the applicable body for the state you reside in.

The staffy pup that was killed today was linked to a domestic dispute. They know who did it. I wouldn't think there was any link.

How do we change perceptions? In the practical sense it's actually an achievable task. It requires the use of messages and promotion. We discussed how to change perceptions in another thread in General recently. Sadly, I can't see it ever being done because it requires someone to take carriage of the task. It requires strategic planning which in this case would involve the following steps; Undertaking research Developing messages Determine objectives Creating tactics

The issues of why dogs may be in an undesirable position or state are unrelated how? You're being trivial and single minded. Teebs was stating that the condition of the dog may be due to circumstances that are explainable and she spoke from her experience. My response, as many others did, then delved into that issue a little more. The discussion is not being purposely railroaded by anyone aside from you turning it into a battle about how you perceive the discussion should evolve under your terms.

Stop being so rude. Discussions change focus and evolve. Get over it Cody and stop playing self appointed moderator.

Good on you for sharing Teebs. Being a mum is not easy for many people. When I ran my rescue, having children was the most common reason for a Pug to be surrendered. Sometimes that reason was disguised as 'shedding too much hair', or 'my son has developed an allergy' but when the problems were broken down all was fine until the baby arrived. Because of this I cautioned potential new owners of how things might change when starting a family. I suggested not allowing them on furniture, or in the bed, and having an area of the house sectioned off for the dog so when the babies arrived very little had to change. In your situation, perhaps having dad take care of your son for a half hour or so once a week could work so you can spend some time to yourself just being with your dog? A short walk or maybe just a game of fetch in the yard?

I am so sorry. How sad. RIP Cloud.

What do you mean he looked at it and said it looked ok? The only way to determine the level of tear production is to test it with something like a schirmer test, not look at it.

I think I need to get a Dremel. It's really hard to cut Boof's nails and he hates it. His nails are black and grow very quickly. Olivia's aren't too bad and they grow so much more slowly. Where is the best place to get a Dremel?

Sounds like possibly keraconjunctivitis sicca or dry eye. Due to the lack of tears the eye becomes inflamed and looks infected. An opaque appearance can also occur. It is incredibly painful and will not improve until you treat the dry eye.

We have this so far. I think the last one can be said more eloquently. Quality Predictability Rich history Type specific (not sure if this is translated effectively) Reliability Recognised/identified parentage We have rich history but i was thinking more of the historical reasons for the development of breeds and the interesting ways breeds have been used throughout history.