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Oh no! I came into the thread again hoping you'd have an update from the vet. I am so very sorry. Cyber hugs to you. Rip Ricky.

Very few dogs are tattooed overall.

Lots of geriatric animals develop seizures for all manner of reasons. Diseases of the brain, liver and kidney are the most common I believe?? You're lucky you can distract her in such a way. I once thought I distracted Monte but I tried many times after and it never worked. It must have been a fluke or just coincidence when I thought I had distracted him. This might be of help Mystic? "Episodic collapse of the geriatric dog" http://www.bearscampnewfs.com/health/Waltham%20Center/Episodic%20Collapse%20in%20the%20Geriatric%20Dog.pdf

You didn't mention seizures the first few posts. That puts a very different slant on the symptoms. I hope the vet can shed some light soon. It's uncommon for a dog of that age to develop epilepsy. Epilepsy is basically seizures where a cause cannot be diagnosed and the most common age for it to start if from around 18months to 4 years.

It may be a long shot but it sounds very similar to what happened to my cat. I understand they're different species but she was fainting, passing out and collapsing from weakness because her heart was failing. She wasn't getting enough blood flow to her brain. Her very first symptoms was her fading appetite. The first time she sort of fell and she looked dazed. Then she recovered and all was well for a few days. It continued and got worse within a very short period of time. Good luck. I hope the vet visit provides some answers.

It wouldn't matter unless they were testing for blood sugar levels I wouldn't think. Many years ago, as part of a university trial, Monte had to fast before a blood test but they were checking several things including cholesterol. That is the only time I have ever had to make one fast prior.

He had two because he was double figures (10) :) :laugh: Cute! It's lovely seeing pics of cherished dogs.

Memories are precious and you've shared so many with your girls. This could be me writing, word for word. I also often said I never expected Monte would grow old. He even began to go grey around his muzzle in the last year and he looked so cute. It's been 6 months now and I miss him terribly still. He was, and will always be, my heart dog.

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Great post Angeluca. Thanks for clarifying. I'm sure it will be very helpful for both purchaser and breeder.

The link to the actual legislation is here: http://www.consumerlaw.gov.au/content/Content.aspx?doc=the_acl/legislation.htm This is a little more on the pet issue; http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/consumerprotection/content/bettertrading/Issue/article_004.html

Perhaps this will help (applicable to WA); http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/ConsumerProtection/PDF/Publications/A_consumers_guide_to_buying_a_pet.pdf I can't cut and paste from it but page 10 may assist. This doc is very light with detail though.

Replace some of the current solid food with boiled cabbage. Cook it well and mix it in. I'd get rid of the smacko altogether. Dogs don't need snacks.

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There is no need to anything else apart from a carbohydrate for energy and bulk. An elimination diet is not meant for the long term so additives such as calcium and thiamine are not required. In fact, the less added the better as you cannot be sure of triggers.

I'm not up on the legislation these days. Two things come to mind though. 1. If the declaration is made in writing, can the dog be deemed 'dangerous' and therefore not eligible for re-homing? 2. Is it different in each state and which state laws does the dog come under.?

Why wouldn't the surgery have been necessary? That implies that the vet potentially operated on the pup needlessly and the question would have to be asked 'why would he be so incompetent to allow a pup to undergo major surgery for no reason'. I agree with StephM, and based on what Steve has said, unless the contract was explained (assuming there is one) I think both sides are in a shitty situation. The buyer has had to go through the stress of expensive surgery on a puppy that hasn't even reached adulthood and the breeder has the risk sending the wrong message about her breeding program and having to pay up money. I still stand by my earlier opinion - I'd compensate them financially and move on. Use this one as a lesson, not a reason to start war.

The OP must have been assuming that they would pay the $1700 for their vet to treat it seems to me though, so why not just pay that amount? Surely there is a way to negotiate these things. Asking for the puppy back is asking for an argument. I wouldn't give it back if it were me and it is not logical to think that they would hand it over just because you are refunding the purchase price. So, for clarification purposes, is the breeder legally required to compensate?

I don't think they can legally take the dog back anyway, can they? Why cause them, and yourself, more grief. Consumers want more these days. Breeders are going to have to step up.

How much would it be to refund the price of the puppy? If you have already received advice and that advice is to refund then It would seem you have an obligation to do so. If it were me, I'd just refund the purchase price, add some to cover the cost of surgery (maybe the $1700 your vet would have charged), and save myself a lot of argument and stress. Why cause a problem for yourself by wanting the dog back? The new owners would be very attached to him by now. They've watched him go through surgery and have probably had him for some time. They're not going to give him up. That seems obvious to me. It's a living, loving thing you're talking about here, not a pair of shoes. Of course they want to keep him.

I've only just caught up with your story of Roo. You gave so much. I am sorry for the ending. It must be hard for you. What a beautiful photographic tribute to Roo. RIP girl.

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We are getting that checked out by our own vet early next week, but to us laymen it looks like no eyes formed at all. His hearing and sense of smells works so well he is already adjusting admirably in an unfamiliar environment. He's running around like a loon, happily playing and being with everyone. Importantly, he manages to find your face to give you lots of special kisses. He sounds very cute. Good to see he is settling in. I think you should start a thread for him. It could be a great learning thread for others with dogs with this particular sensory disability.

Sounds like an appropriate starting dose age to my uneducated eyes. I can't recall Monte's starting dose. He was on 60mg twice a day for most of his life. Towards the end his dosage was reduced and when he died he was on 30mg twice a day. Monte was also on another drug called Bromide and this was switched to Keppra in the last year or so. Monte weighed between 8.8 and 9kilos normally.