~Anne~

My dogs eat the cat's food all the time. Seriously though, it is ok to feed your dog cat food but not ok to feed your cat dog food. Cats have different nutritional needs, such as a need for taurine, that dogs don't have.

I am not sure why you are laughing or being smug. Labradoodles do have a registry. They do have ancestoral records. They do have breeders registered under their registry. Personally, apart from the obvious history time difference, I feel they are on the rough side of being legitimate just as much as Mini Foxies, White Sheps, Koolies or any orther breed in exsistenace and with a registry but not recognised by the ANKC. According to the ANKC regulations even if they have all the other requirements they will still not be recognized for the following reason "10.2.1 Any new breed or breed of dog “under development” must have a unique breed name, and is not a combination of recognised breed names or part of a recognised breed name and it must be pertinent to the purpose of the breed." Perhaps they are not actually even seeking ANKC recognition? It has to be considered. There are several breeds who do not come under the ANKC and, have either given up the fight to be recognised by the ANKC, or never wanted to be. Australia is big enough for more than one registry too.

The pups shown in the pic with the old woman look to be about 6-7 weeks old and were black, white and tan. The pups thrown in the river looked to be only a week or 2 old, were black or black and tan and had no hope of surviving the first minute in the water, let alone long enough for granny to have fished them out.

One of the issues I have about the Labradoodle, apart from the name, is that it is confusing now when approaching someone with a dog that fits the description of perhpas an unclipped Standard Poodle. Case in point, I saw one Labradoodle and one unclipped Standard, together, at Kiama a year or so ago. I had to ask exactly what they were and, had assumed wrongly, they were both xbred dogs.

What you are describing sounds more like a food intolerance, not allergy.

Now that you know that, would you let your husband use your toothbrush? :D

It is an old wives tale for the most part. Wounds, depending on how and why, are meant to be kept dry, not moist for starters. A dog, just like a human, has bacteria in the mouth. You are at risk of developing an infection, or at worst, blood poisoning from allowing your dog to lick any wound.

Recognised by whom? (or who?) Also, I don't think that is the sole or only criteria otherwise the Mini Foxy and others I mentioned in an earlier post would be recognised by now if 'recognised' means by the ANKC. The Mini Foxie is recognised.....they're now called TT's. When most of the MF clubs were wanting ANKC recognition they were told 'not under the name of MF so change it'......which is what they did. They also had to keep their own registry ...and breeders had to breed 5?7? generations true to type before they could be reciognised. They did this and now the breed is recognised. Those, clubs and fanciers who chose to stay with the name MF ........are not recognised. It such a shame the whole lot didn't come on board under the name TT.......as there are some lovely MF bloodlines that are now lost to the gene pool of TT's. As to labradoodles...they're cross breeds made purely to make money. Now you and I both know that this is a point of contention amongst the TT breeders and the MF breeders. I don't plan on entering into the debate in that regard, however, they are recognised by both groups as separate breeds and they have separate registries accordingly. As for your other flippant statement, that's all it is. Flippant and factless. No Anne , not flippant or factless. The breed(not) was originally designed to try and produce a Guide dog for the blind that had a 'non allergic' coat for clients who were dog allergic..so they could have a Guide dog without worry of suffering allergies. At the time, the media got wind of the "labradoodle" litter and ran extensive coverage on it in papers and on TV ....causing huge interest to the point EVERYONE wanting one of those cute little fluffy puppies.......which resulted in greedy BYB's jumping on the labradoodle bandwagon because they saw an easy way to make big bucks...which many are still doing today. The few so called 'caring'(BS) breeders who breed these dogs today, are STILL making big bucks by charging outrageous prices for dogs which are nothing more than crossbreeds...be it from lab X poodle OR labradoodle X labradoodle. I am well aware of how the concept of a Labradoodle evolved. Making oversized and factless allegations that all Labradoodle breeders (or all bybs for that matter) are only breeding for money shows a very limited and poorly thought out argument. It is like saying all APBTs are aggressive dogs.

Wow, that's one old dog ... Yes a 100 year old still fertile dog, its a world record :D . Seriously though thats what gets to me about these dogs. Chessies have been in development since the 1800's and have had a unified starndard since the early 1900's and some idiots who want a "non shedding labrador" think they can make a breed. Get a poodle if you want a non shedding dog, get a lab if you want a lab. Not that I am for the Labradoodle, but they are probably trying to achieve what the Chesapeake people back in the 1800's and everyone else did to standardise their new breed. In 100 or so years time this "breed" (or any others, my argument isn't soley based on Labradoodles) could well be ANKC recognised as they have managed to standardise it, and will be in the same position as Chessie people and could well be using the same argument as you are. I just hate close mindedness to new breeds as all breeds evolved somewhere along the line. As long as it is done right, why not. But I do hate that the DD is cashing in on what could be a standardised new breed. Agree with whoever said to ditch the name though and come up with a new one if they ever want a chance to be taken seriously as a new standalone breed! Hmm I don't see any similarity at all. Chessie people were breeding dogs that were sound and with good retrieving ability and stamina to dogs with similar apperance and ability to create the ultimate retrieveing dog for the conditions of the Chesapeake bay. This is why the breed was developed, for a purpose, not for $$ or fashion. If they found a labrador poodle cross had magic cancer detection abilities and they selected for that as well as appearacnce/breeding to standard ect I would be all for it. But at the moment it seems like all they are doing is robbing the labrador and poodle gene pools for a quick buck. As I said, my argument isn't necessarily about the Labradoodle and I am in no way condoning breeding crossbreeds for profit and pet market. But any "breed" that is bred for a purpose and is breeding against a standard they are working towards, keeping registries, etc. should not automatically be condemned just because they aren't ANKC recognised as yet. All breeds started somewhere. Just saying Maybe this just hits a sore sport for me because people would sooner believe a labradoodle is a real breed and a Chesapeake Bay retriever is something I made up. And love to tell me I have the former and I am delusional about the latter. :D Iguess I see your point and if someone was developing a new breed for a function and following the same code of ethics I expect good pure breed dog breeders to follow it probably wouldn't be an issue. ETA I very much admire coolies and working register BC's and would have one in a heart beat if I thought I could handle it and they aren't ANKC Define 'for a function'.

Recognised by whom? (or who?) Also, I don't think that is the sole or only criteria otherwise the Mini Foxy and others I mentioned in an earlier post would be recognised by now if 'recognised' means by the ANKC. The Mini Foxie is recognised.....they're now called TT's. When most of the MF clubs were wanting ANKC recognition they were told 'not under the name of MF so change it'......which is what they did. They also had to keep their own registry ...and breeders had to breed 5?7? generations true to type before they could be reciognised. They did this and now the breed is recognised. Those, clubs and fanciers who chose to stay with the name MF ........are not recognised. It such a shame the whole lot didn't come on board under the name TT.......as there are some lovely MF bloodlines that are now lost to the gene pool of TT's. As to labradoodles...they're cross breeds made purely to make money. Now you and I both know that this is a point of contention amongst the TT breeders and the MF breeders. I don't plan on entering into the debate in that regard, however, they are recognised by both groups as separate breeds and they have separate registries accordingly. As for your other flippant statement, that's all it is. Flippant and factless. I meant not recognised by the ANKC, I was only stating what I heard from someone, as far as not being recognised by the ANKC because they have not been bred for a certain number of generations 'true to type.' Not an expert and not claiming to be one on this subject. Just adding my 2 cents worth...not entering into the debate on TT's & MF's as I know nothing at all on that topic. Also edited to add I am not against the development of new breeds if done correctly and ethically, but just think that if you are going to breed something it has to be true to type. If someone wants a non-shedding dog they need to know that it won't shed, whereas I don't think all labradoodles are non-shedding, and that is just one issue with this cross breed in particular! Yes, I agree on the bit about developing new breeds. However, again there seems to be confusion between registered Labradoodle breeders and the byb. Registered breedrs don't make outrageous claims or claims that they can not back up. I agree with the person, who said earlier, that they should call it something else. The name has bad rep and is associated with dd's and those out there doing the worng thing.

Recognised by whom? (or who?) Also, I don't think that is the sole or only criteria otherwise the Mini Foxy and others I mentioned in an earlier post would be recognised by now if 'recognised' means by the ANKC. The Mini Foxie is recognised.....they're now called TT's. When most of the MF clubs were wanting ANKC recognition they were told 'not under the name of MF so change it'......which is what they did. They also had to keep their own registry ...and breeders had to breed 5?7? generations true to type before they could be reciognised. They did this and now the breed is recognised. Those, clubs and fanciers who chose to stay with the name MF ........are not recognised. It such a shame the whole lot didn't come on board under the name TT.......as there are some lovely MF bloodlines that are now lost to the gene pool of TT's. As to labradoodles...they're cross breeds made purely to make money. Now you and I both know that this is a point of contention amongst the TT breeders and the MF breeders. I don't plan on entering into the debate in that regard, however, they are recognised by both groups as separate breeds and they have separate registries accordingly. As for your other flippant statement, that's all it is. Flippant and factless.

Being specific, he doesn't have epilepsy. Epilepsy is the name given to a condition of repeated seizures when there is no known cause for the seizures. Whitey is experiencing seizures due to his condition. Seizures can and are caused by many things. lablove - epilepsy s not caused by inbreeding either. There are some genetic links with epilpesy, but 'inbreeding' isn't a cause unless is it a form of genetically inherited epilepsy and one of the dogs in the genetic combination have the condition.

Recognised by whom? (or who?) Also, I don't think that is the sole or only criteria otherwise the Mini Foxy and others I mentioned in an earlier post would be recognised by now if 'recognised' means by the ANKC.

I don't profess to being an expert on them, but I do know there is a legitimate core group trying to do the right thing. There are many though that are cashing in on the DD craze also.

The Tentie is recognised and is breeding true.

I am not sure why you are laughing or being smug. Labradoodles do have a registry. They do have ancestoral records. They do have breeders registered under their registry. Personally, apart from the obvious history time difference, I feel they are on the rough side of being legitimate just as much as Mini Foxies, White Sheps, Koolies or any orther breed in exsistenace and with a registry but not recognised by the ANKC.

Er, how peaceful would it be getting hurled through the air as high as she could possibly throw them and landing in the water be? ;) People seem to be saying that it may be acceptable to drown puppies in whatever country she is from. Sure, that may be an accepted thing, what is horrifying is the way she does it They're infant canines. They would have had no idea or concept of being thrown through the air. I dont think she was aiming for 'height' either to be pedantic. If you actually read what I said, I stated that 'drowning' is allegedly a peaceful way to go. As I am still alive and have never drowned, I have no idea though.

One can at least take comfort in the fact that the death would have been quick and painless and the puppies would not have felt any real fear at that age and the speed in which in happened. People often describe drowning as peaceful. If that was the fate of the puppies, I wonder what the life of the mother dog is like. She is probably still living.

I can't see how only having one eye will affect him. If he is otherwsie normal and a confident little dog he'll be fine. I have had a coupe of blind rescues in and 2 with an eye missing and you would never have known they were vision impaired.

Yes, I do this although my dogs, bar one, are a little closer to the 11kilo range than yours. It is hard to overdose a dog on worming tablets but your dog is really only in the mid range of the smaller does as it is. For the few dollars you might save over a year, I think I'd be more inclined to give the 4 - 11kilo doseage.

Eeeew! Boofy will sometimes chase birds but he hasn't the ability to catch them I don't think.

Yes, I have no doubt that there will always be exceptions to the norm puglvr. There are actually human aggressive Pugs out there too but I would also add them to the bottom of the list for human aggression. Speaking of rabbits, I have seen Pugs chasing rabbits although the behaviour was learned from the cattle dogs that also lived on the property. It was quite a funny site watching a heap of little Pugs racing through a paddock.

Not sure about the strongest, but I am pretty sure the Pug would have to have the absolute weakest prey drive.

Well done everyone. Congrats Linda, Ruth and Dru!

To be honest, I think you sound like you have a balanced and well adjusted idea on the issue.