becky thatcher

Well thanks guys, people were asked for opinions, I gave mine and got kicked in the guts repeatedly by poster after poster. And as for the PM I got, I have never received such a nasty, bullying, hurtful PM on any forum before.

no, but I think I would have loved to have done law.

The demand was created in part by a person with a beef with the purebred dog fancy, is based on misinformation and is fuelled by ignorance. No amount of responsible breeding can make an F1 crossbred reliable in terms of appearance, temperment and non-shedding. Guide dogs got out of the game for a reason. The people that continue to churn out F1 crosses don't look beyond their bank balances. There is little money to be made in responsibly and ethically breeding dogs. The people that want one "no matter what" won't be interested in waiting for pups or being vetted by breeders. They'll go where they've always gone until those sources are shut down. That is interesting about the Guide dogs and you people sure do know a lot. I think the demand is because they are 1. Considered cute 2. Non-shedding 3. The latest fad Just my opinion There is no guarantee that they will be non-shedding : Absolutely true, and it is people who know nothing about these crossbreeds making such idiotic statements that keeps these puppy farmers in business! Sorry, should have clarified my statement. Some people THINK they are non shedding, not me.

This to me? Currently the dogs are evenly matched in size, etc and have only "had words" for about a year. Gaps only abour a 3cm diameter

Uhm, why do you think the OP should pay the entire bill? If her dog had not been there, I doubt there would have been an injury. I agree with lorraine, people get talking to rellies, around the water cooler at work, etc. And can I add that situations and peoples attitudes can change. Currently going through a situation with a tenant which started out fantastic for about 5 years and has now turned sour. If the puppy didn't stick its foot under the fence it wouldn't have happened. See therein lies the problem. Many sides to the story. Currently we have gaps along a fence where a lawnmower contractor of a neighbour keeps continually hitting the fence. Our puffball and the neighours puffball continually have "words" through the gap. If our dog gets injured putting her face through a gap the neighbours indirectly have caused who is to blame? I am just saying that there are many sides to a story, that's all.

Uhm, why do you think the OP should pay the entire bill? If her dog had not been there, I doubt there would have been an injury. I agree with lorraine, people get talking to rellies, around the water cooler at work, etc. And can I add that situations and peoples attitudes can change. Currently going through a situation with a tenant which started out fantastic for about 5 years and has now turned sour.

I just think if I was the owner of the other pup, I would be getting advice oh the legalities of it all, that's all. It is a huge amount. Love Rottys

Happy birthday Sally

You're entitled to your opinion, but i can't see your logic in thinking i should be up for the whole bill. Have you had a bad experience with a Rottweiler or large dog in the past ? Yes they were very nice about the whole situation. Really nice people. No, i asked them about insurance. They had thought about it, but the pup is only 13 weeks old and they hadn't got around to it. No bad experience with Rottys or big dogs at all, why would you assume that? Earlier you said Well there has turned out to be a vet bill, and a very substantial one at that. How long before good neighbours change their minds when they start to think of the money they have to pay. As a previous poster said I think you will find fences a very grey area.

The demand was created in part by a person with a beef with the purebred dog fancy, is based on misinformation and is fuelled by ignorance. No amount of responsible breeding can make an F1 crossbred reliable in terms of appearance, temperment and non-shedding. Guide dogs got out of the game for a reason. The people that continue to churn out F1 crosses don't look beyond their bank balances. There is little money to be made in responsibly and ethically breeding dogs. The people that want one "no matter what" won't be interested in waiting for pups or being vetted by breeders. They'll go where they've always gone until those sources are shut down. That is interesting about the Guide dogs and you people sure do know a lot. I think the demand is because they are 1. Considered cute 2. Non-shedding 3. The latest fad Just my opinion

$4000 and they were quite nice about it I am sure there will be ongoing fees too. I say you should pay the lot but I know I am alone here. (You asked )

Good replies from the two people. My dog had an amputation for cancer two years ago. If you think you can handle it, I agree with poodlefan A back leg is better than a front leg and a small dog copes better too.(so I have heard, though ours is a medium sized dog) Anyway, wait and see what you are dealing with

Have read this thread from start to finish and in my opinion the kid was doing role play in his costume. I know the types well I think he needed to be gently told that it is not safe to stare down a dog though.

Thanks for the info. I have often wondered about this.

Do you think shows like Better Homes and Gardens encourage these types of dogs? I am sure I saw them reviewed on there once

Great idea boronia! Since my dog ate a piece of sushi last night, and enjoyed it, I really don't think I can comment

I find ignoring/playing down the welcome works. Also meet and greet outside. My silky who is 4 still does it

I don't have the time nor the interest to trapse up information for you when you're more than capable of doing it yourself, I'm relaying information which I have read, I have no idea how many people were in the trial or what criteria/restrictions were in place, it's not the type of information I find important to retain, if you want to satisfy your sceptic mind then you need to go searching for the information whether it's Australia or not Also, I'm not retarded, you don't have to bold the word Clinical everytime you mention it LOL OK, I won't bold clinical again but many people just think a study is the same as a clinical trial. Whippets, thanks for that. I was actually thinking of human AD's in my opening post. Thank you everyone for your thoughts.

how cute, now we want a pic when the dog and child are in there together.

I am just thinking that if down the track the pup needs more expensive veterinary care then the owners may change their mind re "goodwill" and "half the cost" Example one: friends daughter got glassed in a hotel here recently, requiring surgery to her hand, she has to take at last one month off her casual full time job (no sick leave or holidays) and will require physiotherapy in the future. What was the pubs goodwill offer? A free VIP pass on the next visit. Goodwill, be damned. It happened on their (the pubs) property. Friends currently going to a lawyer. Example two: news here today, man in Carnarvon chases 5 intruders off his property and hits one unconscious. He has been charged, though I expect a public outcry will ensue and he will get off. My point is that "your property" means nothing really.

Thanks for that, the chiropractor says that she can help too.

I third the chiropractor option. My dog who has only one front leg occasionally puts her shoulder 'out' and can't walk. Quick trip to the chiropractor and she is set straight.

How do you figure that? From what RL has told us, his dog was in it's own yard, contained by a fence. The neighbours dog somehow got it's leg under the fence and RL's dog had hold of the leg. If your dogs are on your own property what more can you do? It is up to the neighbour to keep their dog (and it's legs) inside their own yard. That is why I am awaiting legal advice on this matter. I never said it would be fair

sas, GP's have the same access to info on Clinical trials as we, the general public, do. I have looked for clinical trials on The Australian and New Zealand Clinical trials Registry website on St Johns Wort and the botanical name hypericum. Since nothing comes up, I have to assume that a clinical trial in Australia does not exist, unless you can find me the link. And I am not taking a study of 20 people that Blackmores did or something like that seriously. Since you insisted that a Clinical trial was done in Australia, then I would like to see it, with all the strict criteria that clinical trials involve. Thanks

I think I met one once and it's owner. They sat at the vets with matching hair and the lady asked in all seriousness if we really HAD to get our dogs leg amputated.