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That's a safe guess :laugh: :laugh:

Sorry Dogmad there is no foxie in her as she is too big around 6 kilos.

I need suggestions on what breeds might be in this girl, she was surrendered to me before Christmas, her coat when long is thick and straight. Thanks Maree

I can't believe that Blacktown Pound released all of the dogs on the latest list regardless of them being problem dogs ie fence jumpers, dog agressive, I also can't believe that reputable rescue have taken these dogs knowing that they will be with them for some considerable time, and can be dangerous also taking dogs that are known to be dog agressive in the pound, as we know most reputable rescue have already dogs in their homes, so where have these dogs gone, I dread to think Maree CPR

I have a greyhound in my home at the moment who was 'listed' by PR due to the fact she was in Hawkesbury pound, and she is a loving, sweet natured dog. PR had nothing to do with her adoption from the pound beyond the fact that she was 'listed' by them as my friend purchased her direct from the pound. When PR lists virtually ALL dogs in HP and BP, it is a bit drastic to say that none of them deserve to live. We arn't talking about the ones who are "nice" dogs, the bad that PR does in the way they do business far outweighs the good that they "may" do, the general public are not aware of PR's sending dogs all over the place, unsuspecting people who feel sorry for the dogs who have issues, or not being told about their issues thinking they can "fix it" the experienced ethical rescue groups who have been doing this for many years and some for decades will not take these dogs that are fence jumpers, people or dog aggressive as they are hard to rehabilitate and rehome and you never know whether they will revert to their original ways, so we concentrate and move heaven and earth for the really "nice" dogs, and yes the dogs can change once we get them home, we access them and get experts in and I for one will always go with the "experts" advice and yes I have had to PTS a couple of small dogs, one was only 4 kilos and around 12 months of age, his issues were unpredictable and I could not ethicall rehome him. Maree CPR

Well guys and gals here is what I sent them and of course PR's, my comments are of course in bold: Hi – more than happy to remove you – however bear in mind you didn’t have to deal with anyone other than the pound in the matter of saving these dogs – I was just helping disseminate the info given the short period of time. “Reputable rescue don’t use the word “kill/killed as you are implying that the vets who have to euthanize the “unrehomable” dogs are killers, they take no joy in doing this” The word kill is not intended to demonise the individual that does the killing. However it is indeed intended to put back into the process an independent sense of agency and honesty lacking in the alternatives. Animal activists don’t sweeten the deal for council policies that include killing in their mandate. You will also note that neither of the councils that we work with or the people that have historically done the killing take offence – probably because you are right – they didn’t enjoy it and now as a result of honest public discourse for a change they find the community support they have always desired and don’t have to. Like today. No killing too place. People that take no joy in killing – take great comfort in knowing they don’t have to anymore. “also most of the dogs you have listed are not in the true sense “rehomable” fence jumpers are very hard to rehome, “dog reactive” is not a “rehomable””Almost all of the dogs we list get homes therefore are by accurate definition not only rehomable but in the ‘true sense’ rehomed. “there are many nice, rehomable dogs that die in pounds all the time so you might be best to advertise these instead” In the pounds we work with no “nice” subjectively defined as “rehomable” dogs are killed, hence our work on all the dogs without this, in my view fabricated, dilemma of a bygone era. We also believe that is what rescue is for – to help dogs that need help, not simply insert themselves into the rehoming process. Dogs that need training need help, of all dogs these should be top of the list for “rescue”, for without it they are killed. If one only left healthy, dog friendly, calm, placid, super cute dogs of all ages and breeds in the pounds they would become a haven for the average person looking for a pet – and just one third of the cost of a pet shop, with all vetwork done. Alas in your model ‘rescue’ chooses those dogs and leaves behind the ones that need rehabilitation and training. Not only does this but rationalises it as The ‘rescue’ model and demonises those who don’t – without a hint of irony. The dogs that need rescue are the least likely to receive it using your model. “They are dog reactive BEFORE they hit the pounds that is possibly the reason they are in there in the first place” Many dogs in fact to the contrary can be deemed aggressive in the pound environment as a direct result of incarceration. Pound dogs are community dogs, they reflect the pets in our community in both breed, temperament and health. “pulling on the heartstrings of unsuspecting, non rescue people is irresponsible” Hiding this truth and wishing to be the soul arbiter of pets living or dying is truly irresponsible. Telling the truth to communities whose rates and taxes will fund the killing of community pets is essential both for the short term protection of these pets and the long term education of those in the community who find it unacceptable. “send these dogs out in to the community where they can harm not only humans, children and also kill other animals.” This is simply alarmist and not based on facts. The data I see is that the tiniest percentage of dogs are not human friendly and better yet the tiniest percentage of people in any given community leave their pets for killing in pounds and shelters – less than 0.05% in both cases. Better studies and sources of information exist that I could ever do justice, this is a breeder based and breeder informed argument annexed by “rescue”. The pets in the pound were in fact in our communities, every single one of them, in most cases not more 14 days ago – all year, every day. It is simply illogical to suddenly demonise them on impound. They were living in homes and on our streets a matter of hours ago in some cases – every single one of them. As newly initiated Satans hounds there is not a spike in human attacks all over the country every minute of every day from our current pets. This is a circular argument I am afraid that does no justice to the pets impounded in these god forsaken places. See what you think. Maree CPR

Dam nerve PR sending this email around. It has been confirmed that these dogs will be killed today at COB if not urgently taken out Blacktown All human friendly of course. 6709 tries to escape out of kennel when being put back in – or feeding or cleaning – loves dogs and loves to play 6244 fence jumper – bred to death basically 6189 ridgey - old 6913 scooby dog reactive 6359 thought to be fence jumper dog reactive 5997 Gus timid now dog reactive after months and months in pound – but did share kennel with 2 other dogs in that time 5916 owen – troubled but we wonder how much is a result of his brother leaving and his 3 months of impoundment Melanie J Mobile: 0408 808 405 Website: Pound Rounds Australia Email: [email protected] www.facebook.com/PoundRoundsAustralia Obviously she feels that all these dogs are rehomable......and would make really nice family pets....and yes maybe they might but

I noticed that Korrigan hasn't been back on.....

I get the strong feeling that you are over reacting and reading into the replys when there is nothing to react to I don't see a blood bath here Korrigan the replys so far have been very tame and are directed at the rescue without any malice and certainly no malice towards you, so am very confused as to what part of people's relys are upsetting you Maree CPR

OK but I don't get the need to announce it. Imagine the posts aimed at Mixeduppup if she had just stopped posting the needy dogs at Coota Pound and they only went on FB, she was letting us know out of respect and a courtesy to "Rescue" Thank you for reconsidering Mixeduppup . Maree CPR

That's a shame as DOL is for rescue and as we are the major players in rescuing the dogs at Coota Pound then where are these dogs going to end up, people on FB are the general public and how are you going to be assured that the general public get the dogs vet work done, entire dogs going anywhere, how do we know that the puppy farms won't start to source their dogs on FB. I just worry about MN getting her hands on the dogs and send them all over Australia. I don't use FB so will not be going onto FB to look at what is at Coota Pound, I just don't have the time to do that, please reconsider Hannah as rescue as you know takes up a lot of our time and to have one place to look for all of us is what we would prefer, looking on multiple sites is just too time consuming. Maree CPR

They are just gorgeous and yes if they were in NSW there could have been "blood" spilt fighting for them :laugh: :laugh: Maree CPR They are in Nsw. Somersby RSPCA is a short 30 minute drive down the freeway from Hornsby :cool: The RSPCA would never release to rescue though!!!! I am in Queanbeyan......

They are just gorgeous and yes if they were in NSW there could have been "blood" spilt fighting for them :laugh: :laugh: Maree CPR

It has been a great year here in Canberra/Queanbeyan Burkes because the 3 groups do work so well together, it will continue for CPR. Maree CPR

I would call their bluff and tell them as they failed to notify the owner on the chip they have breached their responsibility to check the chip and notify the owner, simple, see what they say when they are faced with legal action or still the papers, more bad publicity.

Will do :laugh:

I just wanted to wish all on DOL a very merry and safe Christmas, whether you rescue, transport, temp care, whatever your involvement, this is the time to thank each and every one of us for what we have all achieved in the last 12 months, we can be proud of what we have done and the many animals that we have saved so they could go on and live the lives that they deserve to lead, with families that love them and keep them safe for the rest of their lives. I am off to Hobart later today for 6 days to spend with my brother and his extended family, I am staying at Wrest Point (just quietly my kennel bill is higher that my accommodation)where I get to see the yachts coming in from the Sydney to Hobart race, I absolutely love Hobart and if not for my rescue I would be living there. Tell us where you are going for chrissy and I do hope you have a good one and can enjoy it with your "babies" the furry ones as well as the human ones. Maree CPR

I too want to congratulate you Emma and WAR for your enormous contribution to rescue and your passion for the animals that you have all helped, it is comforting to know that you will still be part of rescue in other ways. All the best to you and the other WAR people. Maree CPR

I have a 5 month old Shih Tzu in care and was wondering what worming to give him? Maree CPR

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I have had a 14 year old pure breed English Cocker surrendered to me and I am asking if there is anyone who takes on the older cockers and keeps them until and gives them a good life for what time they have left. Hugo is in excellent nick for a 14 year old he joggs along on his walks with the rest of the pack and keeps up with them, he has problems with his ears (don't they all) but this is being managed with medication. He is a tad over weight but this is being addressed. He is with one of my carers but am hoping there may be someone out there who may take him. Maree CPR

I also have a problem when groups get a dog out of the pound and then go on their FB page and ask people for money to pay for their vet work when in fact the adoption fee would cover the vet cost, unless the dog needs more work done ie dentals, treatment for flea allergies anything outside the norm, this is when you post an appeal on your fb page asking for people to cover those costs. Maree CPR

I take it that you are in the Griffith area? Maree CPR