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I don't know if she would take him back. He is a very cute dog, which I guess is what prompted her stupid decision in the first place. I have told her without REAL papers he may get declared dangerous, seized and destroyed. She did look concerned about it. I felt awful scaring her like that, but really, she shouldn't have him in the first place.. she is renting a unit and I doubt she would have gotten the property if she had the dog beforehand. I'll be having words with the staff at Fish and Feather as soon as their doors re-open. It's THEM who need the information regarding the risks to these dogs. They need to stop selling them.

The problem when people "save" these poor puppies is that for every time a person purchases a pup from a pet shop, it keeps the business alive. When people stop buying them is when the puppy farms will stop producing them. She still hasn't shown me these "papers".

Fish and Feather (pet shop)

Yes from F&F

Aussie really? Let's no go there ok? Sumosmum, that's a good idea. I actually phoned her half an hour ago to tell her about him possibly being a declared breed and she said that she wasn't lying and did get papers and said she will text me a photo of it. That makes me really suss because I know that pet shop doesn't sell with papers and aren't allowed to. I will be contacting them after Easter.

Yes we are in Vic she won't be able to keep him without papers to prove he isn't a PB.

She will love and take care of her puppy, I am just so angry and disappointed in her. How hard is it to come and ask me to find a staffy breeder... seriously... I have a feeling her puppy is Amstaff or PB cross too, which means she won't be able to register him. She's up for some heart break. He also looks like he may have worms.. very skinny for an 8 week old pup.

I don't know if she is deliberately trying to get on my nerves or if she really is so stupid.. The girl went and bought a puppy from a pet shop. Her 6 year old brother knows better. She even lied to me and said he came with papers. I am so ashamed and furious. She's 21 years old this year and I can't even look at her now. Yes same daughter who got the sick kitten from a pet shop. I have a headache...

They were bred to hunt lions many years ago. They are now bred as pets. Given that most breeds were originally bred to have jobs, should we only have pets that thatwerent bred 100 years ago for a job? Should we only have pugs and cavs? I must say that the breed knowledge shown on this forum sometimes is astounding! Yes, that's why I made the comment.. I was being sarcastic ;) but now that I think about it.. if the world was full of just pugs and cavs it would be a better place :D

Maybe the owner over the RR was a lion hunter

The vaccine isn't 100% effective in preventing parvo anyway.

This little guy would lurve a country home.

He did major damage.. she had plastic surgery on her face.

It's true though.. some breeds are more suited in family environments and some are better suited to no child homes. Kelpies are better suited to acreage rather than city living for example.

Clyde you are right.. the owner picked up the dog in the wrong way. The dog still needs intensive training or to be PTS.. it was going to happen. Put it this way.. I was in QLD when it happened. My friend just text me a pic of her face.. no explanation of what happened and I replied saying: The dog bit you didn't it...

It wouldn't surprise me if the pup wasn't really six months old, but still. Some dogs have extremely 'strong personalities' from a young age - high prey drive, strong resource guarding, very highly strung animals. If the dog was never socialised with children, it just wouldn't recognise a child as a 'person', just as another living thing smaller than it that's annoying it and needs to be warned off. This is total speculation of course, but if the dog grabbed the girl by a ponytail and shook hard, the way a dog like that could regardless of its age, he could have managed to scalp her. It wouldn't have had to be a sustained attack where he was gnawing on her for ages. As for 'where were the parents' - more and more in the news I see dog attacks on children and I hear speculation by dog-supporters that portrays children as tiny experimenting nazi canine-torturers, guaranteed to deliberately try to injure or harm a dog for their own entertainment, and the dog is portrayed as an innocent that was merely trying to defend itself. This, to me, does dogs just as much of a disservice as breed sterotyping. Dogs don't 'get' children. The legal speaker at the Melbourne anti-BSL rally last year even touched on it in his speech. To a dog, a child looks, acts and sounds completely different to an adult human. I totally agree with megan - dog attacks happen in nanoseconds. Other than completely separating your dog and your child, it's unrealistic to think that just because you're standing four feet away and watching, your child won't end up on the receiving end of a set of teeth. You need to be a good reader of canine body language - and most owners aren't. I saw a video at a friend's house recently - she was going through a list of old Christmas vids and things and found an old video taken a few years previously. At the time, she had a 2 year old son and her two brothers were lodging with her. She left her son in the care of the brothers (young men in their early 20s) and went to the supermarket. While she was out, the boys took a video of their nephew. The family dog entered the living room. The dog is a 40+ kg irish wolfhound cross mastiff, a speyed bitch, about three years old at the time of the video. While they film, and one of them is holding and patting the dog, the little boy knots his fists in her fur (he's not tugging, just exploring what she feels like), looks into her mouth and then tries to lift one of her back feet off the ground. The boys are watching as closely as any adult would - they're reassuring the dog, patting her, and it's all a sweet scene of discovery. As an inexperienced but keen student of canine body language, I was open-mouthed at the video and began to talk my friend through it. Her dog was licking her lips and turning her head away from the child. She tried to walk away a couple of times, but of course one of the brothers had her by the collar, thinking he was protecting the child and not realising he was actually stressing the dog out. She was lifting her front feet and turning away. She wouldn't make eye contact and was blinking slowly and licking her lips and nose a lot. She yawned frequently. Her ears were back and slick against her head. The dog was extremely stressed out by the entire exchange - she didn't want to be touched or poked by the child and when he went to lift her foot she tried to dance away from him (and was finally let go and she cleared off out of there - more because the chap with her collar couldn't hold her 40kg+ frame when she decided she'd had enough). To the young men, she looked like a patient and long-suffering dog, putting up with a child - they didn't understand her repeated signals that she was unhappy and wanted to go. The only signals they would have recognised would have been bared teeth or growling, neither of which she did - but then if she had gone straight from that prolonged signalling to a snap or bite, they would have been astonished and it may have been one of those 'attacks with no warning'. Plus if someone asked them 'why was the child unsupervised', the answer was that he wasn't unsupervised - the people supervising him just didn't understand what they were watching. There have been attacks on children within 2 feet of the parents.. these things happen very fast.

*hugs* Pebbles that would have been just awful

I haven't had any complaints about my cat, but she seems to hang around our house anyway.

My cat is kept inside at night but wanders during the day being a cat...climbing trees and sunbathing..licking her privates and stalking lizards. I can't stand the thought of cats being kept indoors all day. It's not right. The difference between a cat being out and about during the day and a dog being out and about is that one poses more of the threat to people than the other.

I can't understand how a 6 month old puppy could be so aggressive and cause so much damage. That poor child

I could probably ask Vic pug rescue if they can get updates and photos of Ollie. I am so sorry about your Annie too young for Cancer.. poor little darling.

It's been probably a year since I re-homed Ollie my pug and I still think about him everyday. I'm not sure if it's my hormones, but I just watched a video of a pug and it made me cry for Ollie Will I ever get over him? It's not like he has died.. he is happy and healthy as far as I know.

OMG that's fantastic. *sigh* I miss my pug.

Yeh but if you re read her initial post, she says the dog is aggressive as it barks and growls at things near his yard. Plenty of dogs do this. My Pug is a champion of barking and growling at things outside but he doesn't have a mean bone in his body. Knowing the OP's history with breed choices/preferences I would say they don't have much experience with more protective/active breeds. The dog in question is a terrier which are reknowed for having spunk and a bit feisty. I don't think Ollie was psychically able to bark and snowl, he was great at making snuffly grunting noises though My dogs have all been sweet quiet little angels (bar one). I have come across many a feisty terrier, but this one is more of a terror. Just because I like the sweet quiet ones in my home, doesn't mean I don't like any terrier with a bit of feistiness. This dog barks at people who knock on the front door.. he can see them and even if he knows them, he will show his teeth and drool with his hackles up ready to rip their faces off. He is more than just feisty.

Aggressive or yappy breeds? I think you might mean individual dogs, as no breed are all aggressive or yappy. From my experience there are breeds which "bark" and breeds which "yap". I have sensitive ears, a big deep woofing doesn't bother me, whereas the higher pitched bark of some smaller breeds (which the owners may call a bark, but to me is yappy!) does. Semantics. So true. There's also the fact that often there is a type of "person" who chooses a type of breed and then the breed becomes the by product of the people.. for example, rough nuts getting bull breeds and roughing them up causing them a bad reputation by breeding bad traits into them or turning them aggressive. It's not the breeds fault, but the majority of these dogs are aggressive and unpredictable because of the way the people have made them. Same goes for small breeds where the owners baby them and allow them to behave in a manner that would see them destroyed if they were large dogs, simply because it's "funny" to them or they are too small to do much damage (so they think). So often you will see the same traits in specific breeds owned by specific types of people. I hope that makes sense.