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Thanks everybody im so glad its all over

Good news everybody ,after appealing councils decision to reject my request for permit for 3 dogs the state administrative tribunal recommended that the council reconsider my request for permit for 3 dogs, this went to a council meeting last night and the permit has been approved ................. finally !!!!! Thanks for all your advice and support everybody :mad ;) :D

The two objections were from council members , their was nothing on the letter to state that there was any objections from our neighbors . However this morning when i couldn't sleep i pulled all the letters out from council regarding my application and the first official letter after application states " before approval can be given a survey of all land owners adjoining your property will be undertaken to determine whether there is any community opposition to your application " It then says it will be presented to council and signed by some loser . If you read the letter as it is written it basically says that as long as there is no objections from neighbors it will be granted So it looks as though they havn't even visited the property at all and if so i was not aware that they were coming , and also they never advised me of when it was going to council for me to be there to state my case in full . At least the state administrative tribunal is a Third party and i can now use the above findings from my investigation work as my defense :D i will be ringing them tomorrow and asking for further details and if a property inspection has been done and ask why wasn't i notified when it was going to voted on .

Thanks everybody for the support and advice . I think i will approach the councile Blackdog to see if i can get a copy of the Subordinate Local Law to have a look at . The council had details regarding our oldest dogs issues , they had also already contacted neighbours and the neighbours did not have an issue with the number of dogs at our home . They had references details of where the dogs were registered previously . I could understand their decision a little bit more if i was requesting approval for a puppy , but we have had all these dogs since puppies and our previous council was more than happy to grant approval for 3 dogs . They were more than happy for me to pay 3 years registration for all 3 dogs when i first put the application in . I will be appealing the decision and it gets reviewed by the state administrative tribunal it has to be appealed in 28 days . I will keep you all up to date on our progress . Any other advice would be greatly appreciated .

Well i have just moved to WA with our 3 dogs . Bebe a staffordshire bull terrier who is nearly 10 , Che a rottweiler who is 8, and Diesel another staffordshire Bull terrier who is 5 . On Arrival here 1 of the first things i did was seek council approval for 3 dogs . Went to the council filled out an application provided a reference from a neighbour who happened to also be my obedience instructor PAID registration for the 3 dogs for 3 years and waited for further contact . Council wrote stating thank you for your application and advised us that we would need a property inspection completed . We have had no contact since until today when i received a letter from them stating that application has been rejected and we can either appeal the decision or relocate one of the dogs within 3 months . The letter stated application had been rejected due to the following : 1. the size of the block at this residence is too small to keep this number of dogs 2. the size of the dogs involved are large (go figure ??? yes che would be considered large but definately not the two staffords ) 3. the property is located within a suburban area 4. 2 objections were received raising concerns about the size of the lot where the dogs are being kept . any advice would be greatly appreciated as i thought i was doing the right thing and i'm terribly upset about this . Bebe is 100% blind and stays inside throughout the day and night except when we go for walks and when she does poos and wees Diesel is obedience trained and he spends a lot of time living inside too and keeps Bebe company Che is the dog who is outside a majority of the time . The council contacted our neighbours and no one had an issue with us having 3 dogs . Their all microchipped , desexed they dont bark unless for a reason and they all have sufficient excercise . Our yard is a sufficient size for the dogs if it was where they spent a majority of their time and iwouldn't have purchased the property otherwise . Che and Bebes excercise requirements are quite different now then what they were when they were younger. Sorry for the long post but wanted to make sure i had all the information . Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated . Im so mad, lost and upset all at the same time . All i want to do is the right thing by my dogs and legally and it has been thrown back at me . If i had just registered the 2 dogs they wouldn't have been any of the wiser . Thanks in advance

I have been feeding UA and GB for a couple of years now and no other product works as well for my dogs as these 2 . I am able to keep good condition on my energetic staffords and my rottweiler , they love it and there coats are amazing ! unfortunately now i have moved to WA i cant seem to find it here if someone in WA knows where i can get it please PM me ) so the trial and error begins again !!!! Does anybody feed the eagle pack dog food here ? if so how do you find it? is it good stuff ?

My three thought it was Christmas when we finally got grass at our newly built house , they were always grazing on it . My Rotti is the only one who seems to vomit after eating grass (not all the time but sometimes ). I did read on here somewhere that grass helps the digestive system and quite often when I'm doing poo patrol their poo will often have some grass in it !!!!

what a cute lil boy you have

I have those days every day . I go to the ANKC website for the rules . It's actually quite interesting to have a good read through too , has heaps of info !

theres Nothing quite like a Stafford cry/talk is there ? When i was taking my oldest Stafford to obedience and looking at trialling her in CCD (before the blindness ) she talked the whole way through our training session . we'd be all lined up listening for our instructions and Bebe would be talking away , SFE forget it mum, this is a chance to tell the instructors exactly what ive been thinking sealed with a big kiss and a famous stafford headbutt !

Bebe my oldest Stafford has a white rip curl sign on her lower back .I would post a picture but can't figure out how to get picture on here .

Theres no way in hell that i would take any of my dogs to a dog park , the risk is just not worth it you don't know what your gonna have to face . wayyyyy to scary for me . breed bashing wont fix the issue either we all know all breeds of dogs are capable of having unsociable behaviors even the small ones . The owners of the Grey s were out of order if they were aware that their dogs could be aggressive and if the stupid law states that they must be muzzled in public for whatever stupid reason then they should have done this aswell . Some people are just soooo stupid and make life soooo much more difficult for the rest of us .

poor bedazzled what an awful scary thing to have happen to you . it does make you mad especially when you don't feel safe anymore .

thanks for the advice everyone .Bedazzled i am so glad i don't have to worry about my hand position thing then . Maybe i will have a look at Bunbury club and see if it's what I'm looking for . Your right Ruby star i am dedicated that's why i want to make sure im joining a good club . I have come from a very small club where they are no longer affiliated because they are soo small and the only trialling experience we have is 1 very outdated harsh trainer and myself and my friend who's the other instructor (she used to be an instructor at Southern districts which is a huge club in Adelaide ) .

Sure why not the more the merrier Well I'll be in Bunbury and don't mind travelling for a good club , Does any one know anything about the Bunbury obedience club and do they have many members trialling ? I use a slip collar and positive reinforcement , toys treats etc so the club would need to allow these , and i like to have a bit of freedom with my training . I suppose I'm looking for a club where theres a lot of trialing experience and support and no nastiness :D

Obedience club in WA and possibly one that does agility ???

Just reading the whole hand position thing a couple of pages back has me concerned because i never knew you could loose points for where your hands are positioned as long as it wasn't seen to be giving extra commands , i have 3 different positions as i was none the wiser . I am hands in the middle during heel work and COP 's ,lower middle position for recall and hands behind back for SFE and stays . Does anyone think that this could be an issue when we hit the open ring ? bedazzled said it varies from state to state, im gonna be a western Australian next month is there anything that i should know about regarding differences in judging and trialling from SA to WA ? oooh and can anyone recommend a good obedience club ?

Pootease Pooteaser ;)

ooooooh tricky one i think that i will train both. The reason for that being that it would be nice to have the options available especially if the weather is crap i want to limit as many drops as i can if this was the case (especially after our disaster in the ring at the state obedience championships )

I would assume Maltese x poodle?? (probably others might mean the same!!). I know what it's like huski... but one by one i'm teaching my family - and boy is Lottie helping - they can't believe what a great dog she is, and when I tell that where she's from etc, i'm slowly beginning to get through to people I'm pretty sure it's a Maltese x toy or miniature poodle. That really sucks Bec! I hate it - I spent hours talking to one of the girls at work about not getting a "puggle", then she goes and has one conversation with some idiot who tells her that pugs eyes pop out of their sockets when you turn them upside down and suddenly she's back on the "puggle" wagon and can't be told that it just doesn't happen. Oh of course it would be a maltese cross poodle silly me

Toys are definately good for them and i would never deprive my 3 from any. although it is tempting to take them away somedays especially considering one of them has just completely destroyed a brand new tennis ball at my feet whilst reading this post (he had fun) . Diesel is the toy stealer in our family he likes to snatch all the toys away from everybody else and stash them away in his corner of the yard . The trick is finding toys that will last a long time and are different and exciting from the other ones they have . soft squeaky toys last about 5 seconds in this house , so i tend to go for a hard plastic or the rope toys . Lately i have been able to get a real soft plastic /latex type toy that the dogs find hard to grab and chew cause they are so soft

whats a moodle ?? i can never keep up with all these names they keep inventing !

My female Stafford was diagnosed with SARDS last year . SARDS stands for sudden acquired retinal degeneration syndrome . SARDS affected our girl literally overnight , she is 100% blind . I absolutely recommend seeing a specialist , the specialist we saw was able to diagnose her within 15 minutes into the consultation and tests were completed to verify the diagnosis , they were great . Bebe has adjusted really well to the blindness and is a very happy dog she runs around with my other dogs and plays all the time and still loves her walks . She knows where her bed is , water etc and we try not to move things so not to confuse her . When people see her they just assume she is a dog that can see because she is that well adjusted , they get a shock when i tell them she is actually blind. The advantage i have is that SARDS is known to make dogs sleep more .Bebe was an anxious dog before SARDS and SARDS has actually calmed her down. i can't really comment on the scare issues you have with your girl , but You maybe surprised how well she will adjust to blindness i certainly was . For a blind dog we tend to make special allowances and they may get a bit more special treatment then they would of got before so this may work to your favor . Just so you know there is a lot of Dolers who have or have had "Disabled dogs " and can provide the much needed support, tips and help you may require . Fingers crossed it's not cataracts, but it's not the end of the road if it is .

RIP beautiful girl

Tonight whilst driving back from feeding my horse i noticed what seemed to be an American bulldog sitting at the side of a bus shelter , the dog was scared and was frozen sitting in the one spot . I got out to see if the dog would come to me if i called it (to make sure it wasn't injured ) dog wouldn't come it got up when a train went past then sat back down in the same spot frozen . I went a little closer to the dog and it was really unsure and scared and i could tell from it's body language that if i got any closer i may have been bitten . So i get home and give the local council dog control officer a call , mobile rings out continuously and theres a message to state that your call will only be answered after hours if it's an emergency and to leave a message . so i ring a couple more times hoping that they will pick up the phone cause they'd be sick of hearing it (no chance ) , leave a message ,20 minutes later they call back to state the dogs already been picked up today and it always goes to the bus stop and sits and it's not injured and the owner lives at such and such address and the dogs always out roaming . After discussing how concerned i was (repeatedly) that the dog maybe injured now or could end up injured (we live on a road where trucks travel quite frequently) i was told this dog does it all the time but one of our officers lives out that way so we'll get him to check on it on his way home (just to shut me up i think ) . Is it normal for a animal control officer to be so unconcerned regarding a dogs well being and if this dog does it all the time then why have the owners not been reprimanded . The dog was showing clear signs to me that it was a little grumpy what if i was a child approaching the dog?, i dread to think what might of happened . Hopefully the council will keep to their word and check on the dog and it stays safe . Sorry for the long post, i feel soo much better now i have got this off of my chest . i am always really concerned when i see a stray dog or animal .