wantasounddog

I agree with megan. At least a 12 mth return policy. (everything else you buy has a 12 mth warranty) Some genetic disorders occur after the 8 week handover.

It's all sorted. The issue certainly makes interesting conversation.

yep, the breeder knows all about the problem. what she does with the info..... ???? She is still showing the full brother and sister (winning too) - future breeding stock i'd say. I think a system needs to be in place to follow the family tree of all dogs affected. Apparantly only 150 chosen vet practices compile the stats in australia. Er - hang on a minute - this discussion is getting a bit bogged down. What the breeder chooses to "do" to satisfy Wantasounddog is actually up to the breeder. As I suggested in an earlier post Wantasounddog needs to state his case and then agree a course of action with the breeder. Whether or not the breeder is exhibitting litter mates and whether or not they are winning is the breeders business. So too does the decision whether or not those siblings are ultimately included in a future breeding programme. Wantasounddog - you suggest that "the breeder knows all about the problem - what she does with the info????". Well nobody can answer that question other than you and the breeder. I'll ask again - what have you actually asked the breeder to do to resolve the issues you are experiencing with your young dog? If you've not asked for anything then you can't expect a resolution can you? I have to make a response to this. What happened to a breeders responsibility? Aren't they breeding dogs to supply the pet market as well as servicing their own hobby?

I don't think I get this forum. Im new at this. Im answering to personally. Please let this thread die!

yep, the breeder knows all about the problem. what she does with the info..... ???? She is still showing the full brother and sister (winning too) - future breeding stock i'd say. I think a system needs to be in place to follow the family tree of all dogs affected. Apparantly only 150 chosen vet practices compile the stats in australia.

Your sooooooo right not to breed from dogs with more than 0 in the score. That makes perfect sense. I know that the guide dog association wont use male dogs with anything but zero.

I must say that I'm surprised that a dog with grade 2 elbows shows such extreme symptoms. I have bred a bitch who had one elbow graded 2 and she is completely asymptomatic. The swollen hocks also have me a little puzzled. I also cannot understand how a dog with 'balls not such a good shape' scored 10 or 11, or do you mean 10 or 11 for each hip? Were the x-rays sent away for scoring or is this your vet's assessment? Regarding your question on management and 'how long did they last' I know of a bitch with UAP in both elbows who had surgery and lived happily for 11 1/2 years and my very first dog had severe HD and lived until he was 13. Keeping the dog lean, regular cartrophen injections, fish oil and a supplement such as Joint Guard can help a lot. Hi Miranda, Thanks for your reply. I feel abit better now about the situation with my boy. It is still a mystery to my vet also on the degree of pain to the dog given that the x-rays weren't that bad. My dogs probably faking it so he remains a house dog.

thanks so much for the info! ive done alot of research on the topic but this info is much more direct. My lovely boy is almost 15 months now and has been under the direction of my new vet for the past 2 months. xrays were taken about 3 weeks before he suddenly bacame almost parralysed. He slept all day and nignt for 4 weeks when it just happened. Swelled up like a balloon in front legs and hocks. antibiotics reduced the swelling big time but is still quite lame. we are not sure if the dysplasia has anything to do with the possible polly arthritis yet. we are holding back on more x-rays(3rd set) and blood tests as we have not even had him a full year yet and dont have endless funds to spend on an already compromised dog. He's also suffered mange, and an enlarged prostate. He is desexed now. out of interest, how did you manage your affected dogs and how long did they last????

Hi, 1. yes 2. yes -mother 16 hips but breeder said thats ok (aust grand champ) dad - 7 (nz grand champ) 3. both elbows 0. 4. yes, assumed the kids extra food did it. 5. yes. funny enough hips scored 10 or 11? but vet said balls not such a good shape. Elbows 2 each side but showed arthritis. The dog had been good for 6 months (after meds rest ect) then suddenly was lame as buggery. New vet isnt sure if it was polly arthritis all along but first vet said elbow dysplasia. Sorry, the 4 week comment. We got the pup at 4 months and he showed signs of lameness by 5 mths. Ive had labs before this one, purchased from country no\show backgrounds (when I was a kid) and had no problems. Trying to establish what went wrong this time so not to repeat the drama.

Thanks for your comment. Sure, your right, having a really fat lab and your asking for trouble, but could problems occur within 4 weeks? I should have mentioned no obvious abuse was done with our dog. The kids snuck extra food for one week until I realised what was happening.

Just wondering, for other owners of well bred labradors diagnosed with elbow dysplasia at the 5 month old mark, think that they may have added to the problem by not doing as instructed ie, over exersising, playing, feeding ect? They say its environmental aswell. Im not so sure on those stats? Feed back, anyone?