KOE

Oliver went to the vet today and he wants to start from scratch with a poo sample, he weighs 35 kg but the vet did say he is thin compared to usual, so tomorrow if the poo sample shows nothing he is getting bloods done. He has a shiny coat reddish pink gums but his rib bones up to the 3rd are protruding. I hope he has a worm problem but I am doubting that.

He is going to the vet tomorrow afternoon regardless

didnt know if I could name it but since you named one I will it is the ADVOCATE, but if it was the ivermectin wouldnt the heartguard tablets do the same thing.

Do you give the vc in tab or liquid form

Oliver has been dropping weight since we came back from the very wet coast at easter but the girls are not. I can see his last 2 ribs and he is getting thinner by the day. Last night he vomited all his tea up in 3 goes he had the same as normal and no one else was sick, I believe he has been steadily losing weight since I put that spot on heart wormer on him. He gets eukanuba with either mince beef or chicken and has since I got him. Tonight I added a small container of yoghurt (strawberry all I had) to it and he has not yet up chucked , but has been burping a fair bit.. He has a very shiny coat clear eyes and reddish gums so I do not think it is worms, he has done nothing but scratch since I put that stuff on him as well. I wont be using it again wether it has something to do with it I do not know. Any ideas Oliver is a 20 month old GSD male.

All is now fine pup is confined to a crate to eat, If I take Oliver away from the girls he wont eat his food he whines to be with them, and when I go away if the 3 shepherds dont come which is rare they go to boarding kennels. So puppy is confined and I sit with them until they are finished. I have been feeding the 3 together since they all arrived Kim is 4 Oliver nearly 2 and Elka 14 months, and until the pup came I never had a problem only Elka guarding hers but never a bad word said. thanks for your answers I am going to try and keep the balance I have had the whole time before.

Last night I fed them about 6 feet apart and as soon as that pup went to go over the the GSD's I put him inside, and made sure everyone ate their own as soon as they left their bowls I removed them, not happy puppies. But peace has reingned for last night anyway.

She will start doing this with toys etc so make sure there are enough toys and beds for everyone. You have to teach them to get along, not only the new puppy but the existing dogs. It seems that Elka sees herself as the boss of the pack and thats dangerous for a puppy that doesnt understand at the moment, and is a type that is a rough player. You need them all to be your pack, which means they share with each other but have the right to have things for themselves. Still, if you want to go take an item from Elka and give it to another dog she should not crack it. Tough luck mums the boss. Also some extra obedience for them while they play would not go astray. Supervise play time, if you see it getting too rough get in there and show them theyre wrong. Separating may create a 'us and him' mentality with the existing group. The pup has to learn to hold his own but the shepherds have to learn that rough play is unacceptable and they HAVE to incorporate him into the existing family like it or not. If you sort Elka's attitude towards the pup the others, who obviously see her as leader, will have no rough behaviour to follow and you will have less ganging up. Its time to flex some of that mummy muscle and show them who really is boss, the human and not the dogs. Kim is the boss not Elka. And the puppy knows not to annoy her. Yet she will eat from a bowl with him. That is actually the first time I left them eating as I do usually stand there but I was running late. They all sit before meals Kim is fed 1st followed by Oliver then Elka then the puppy, Also I can take anything from Elka and she doesnt mind at all. It is though she has a hate for this pup. I have also told my son he is to be desexed asap.

My sons stupid puppy runs around eating the GSD's food normally he makes a wide berth of Elka as she gives that look even Oliver and Kim dont go near her food bowl yet she will eat out of theirs with them and all is fine as long as it is not her bowl. Last night the Ridgeback/Bullarab cross stuck his nose in Elkas bowl and she bit him ruptering his jugular vein, I applied pressure and raced him to the vet who said if I didnt do that he would be dead, the outside entertainment area looked like a murder scene I really though he was dead so much blood for one dog. Well 1st thing the stupid pup does is go straight to Elka and start playing with her and now she continually growls at him and bites at his neck. How do we get back to the status quo that we had where they all got on, I do not want to seperate him from the 3 shepherds as he lives here and it will be too complicated being that I have a front and back yard and the cats have access to the front and the dogs access to the back. I am worried that if she starts on him when no one is home the shepherds will pack like they nearly did the other night and kill him.

A friend of mine who actually is a 7 lab owner was given a zapper to try out when she bought a bark collar. It lets out a noise that only dogs can hear and they shut up immediatly. While I was at her house with my dogs her labs were barking so she pointed it in their direction hers shutup and mine ran to me giving her dirty looks I do not know how it works but dogs do not like it. If you are interested I can ring her and ask her what it is called and where she obtained it from.

More prayers coming Kal's way

Try peppermint essence rubbed on the collar usually does the trick.

rip beautiful Kes

I would watch him with the water in case he has a upset tummy because he may bloat, has he been to the toilet (bum end) he could have something blocked.

Best wishes to both you and Kal. Erny whatever you decide, you will know it is the right thing to do with your beloved Kal. Best of luck

Hugs Kisses and best wishes heading Kals way

I used to clean Abby's out with Malaseb pour in rub and the dog will shake it out, worked for awhile, but I used to have her ears scraped yearly.

I use mainly Fidos free itch and wash my 3 shepherds in the one lot of water, mainly because we are on restrictions. But if any one else dog goes in it it is then scrubbed fanatically.

Abby was desexed at 12 months and she became incontinent at about 8 or 9 years, the vet put her on a tablet a day which then made the boys think she was in season after about 12 months, so we took her off that and right up until her death at 13.5 years I either had a doogy sanitary pad on her while inside or just cleaned it up. On her bed I placed a shower curtain covered with an old sheet which I changed morning and night otherwise the stink was yuk. I also had to wash around her rear end daily so she didnt smell otherwise she would lick her self to the stage where she would get a red raw rear.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa I was close with the urinary tract thingy. Hope she is better cheers

;) I thought you were a he too :D

I didnt mean you, you nut

Urination blockage: Straining and crying while posturing to urinate without the production of urine is very serious. Especially in male cats there can be an obstruction of the urethra from minerals or small bladder stones. Without appropriate treatment, your pet can die. If you believe your dog or cat is unable to urinate, do not delay... seek veterinary attention immediately. It also said vomiting is of no consequence on eating grasses.

what about senility. only kidding, does sound like a blockage doesnt it. Has he checked her for a bladder prolapse?

Found this in a google I know it says cat but the question is worth asking. Most of the time, it's pretty obvious that something is wrong with your pet when they have a urinary tract problem. They strain to urinate, or because of the inflammation and irritation, they don't have normal control and pee in the house. Indoor Cats pee in places other than their litter boxes. They pee much more often. Sometimes you can see blood in the urine. Male cats that become "blocked" and can't urinate due to a urethral obstruction usually become extremely ill and lethargic and often vomit.