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I did not say I'd lie, I said I wouldn't admit to it. ...... None have ever requested references, nor would I be obliging them if they did. I'd just move on to source a pet elsewhere. Well see I think it all works out for the best for both sides. If anyone (who says the are not lying) but would not admit to or tell the turth about any topic that came up, then I would move on too. See it all works out for the best for both. Working full time would not prevent me from placeing a pup (and it never has as most of my pups go to full time workers). But not telling me the truth on any question/topic would. BTW I do not ask for references, but you would be very surprised what I find out about someone before I will place a pup with them. And guess what, if I can not find out anything about them, then I do not place a pup with them. These are my babies and any games played by buyers would mean instant elminate.

I do hope, if you intend to breed that no one ever lies to you about something you feel in important in the placement of your pups. I would advise strongly to anyone looking to get a pup to never lie to the breeders or rescue. If you feel they want to know something that is not their buisness then tell them so, but do not lie. If you feel the truth would lead to them not placeing a dog with you, then it is vital you do not lie. Besides you will likely get caught out by most caring breeders. You would only fool breeders who did not care if they got lied too and they in fact would be the kind that might be lying to you about something very important....think about it.

Ridgebacks were bred to hunt lions but only to be used in a pack situation to corner a lion and keep it there until the hunters arrived. They are one hound that was never actually bred to attack or kill anything, including lions. They will bail up an intruder but are not at all inclined to bite them, it is simply not in their nature. Yes, they are big and powerful but there is a big size difference between males and females and the females are generally not much bigger than many of the other breeds the OP was considering. They are a large breed not a giant breed. I know a few Ridgeback breeders and have other friends that have them as pets and if I wanted a large smooth coated breed they would be my choice. Here is a good video of them playing with some other dogs. Gives a good idea of the energy power and size. Your right the bitches are much smaller. edit...heres another nice one of them playing

Expecting my female counterpart just to "fall in line", as you put it, would be misogynistic in my book. I don't know about your relationships, but mine proceeds on an equal footing. Your assumption that it would proceed in any other manner is, quite frankly, insulting - all the more so since you don't even know me. And "falling in" is clearly not what I meant - why else would I try to ascertain from my OH if I was asking too much of her? My point was, quite simply, that I had communicated to my OH that if we get a Weim for example its likely to be needy and want to hang around her all the time and that such behaviour would be something that she would need to tolerate if we selected that breed. On the basis that I did not expect her to just to "fall in", I quite naturally asked if that was something that she would find acceptable; if not, it gets struck of the wish list. Simple. Smart alec psychoanalysts really get my goat. Lambo, it might be best to ignor Sheridan, you would not be alone is that idea. Are you meaning me when you say the 24 hours a day to dedicate to a dog? I never said that. But you did imply that you worked long hours and wanted to raise a pup. As others said you have picked some of the most demanding or difficult breeds. By all means, if you want a 45Kg 27" tall Rhode as your first dog to raise..and that would suit the OH and kids...then go for it. Like I said I know little about them except they are big, powerful and created to hunt lions in Africa.

Have you read the Ridge review? Might be all wrong but worth a read and perhaps onwers can tell you more. I know little of this breed except it gives the impression of a very powerful large animal. Were they for hunting lions at one time? Rhodesian Ridgeback Temperament What's Good About 'Em, What's Bad About 'Em By Michele Welton. Copyright © 2000-2010 This dignified, muscular dog, a combination of scenthound and sighthound, needs brisk walking every day and the chance to run as often as possible. This is not a breed to sit quietly in your yard all day. Young Rhodesian Ridgebacks are especially rambunctious, bore easily, and can excavate vast holes. The most territorial of the hounds, the Rhodesian Ridgeback is aloof with strangers and should be accustomed to people at an early age so that his guarding instinct remains controlled rather than indiscriminate. Rhodesian Ridgebacks can be dominant with other animals, especially with other dogs of the same sex. Some individuals are fine with the family cat, while others are predatory chasers of anything that runs. This breed is confident and independent, inclined to do things his own way, and will test members of the family to find his place in the pecking order. Consistent leadership and obedience training is a must. Overall, the Rhodesian Ridgeback is a splendid, capable companion for assertive owners. However, without ongoing time and effort, exercise, socialization, and supervision, he can be "too much dog." If you want a dog who... Is large, well-muscled, and natural-looking, with one unusual physical characteristic: the ridge of stiff hair along his back Has a short easy-care coat Thrives on vigorous exercise and athletic activities Is the most territorial and protective of the hounds, serious and confident Is calm and quiet in the home -- as an adult A Rhodesian Ridgeback may be right for you. If you don't want to deal with... Vigorous exercise requirements Rowdiness and exuberant jumping, especially when young Destructiveness when bored or not exercised enough Providing enough socialization so that protectiveness doesn't become aggression or suspiciousness Potential aggression toward other animals -- chasing instincts Strong-willed mind of his own, requiring a confident owner who can take charge A Rhodesian Ridgeback may not be right for you. If I were considering buying or adopting a Rhodesian Ridgeback My major concerns would be: Providing enough exercise. Rhodesian Ridgebacks MUST have regular opportunities to vent their energy and do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and destructive chewing. Bored Rhodesian Ridgebacks can make a shambles of your house and yard. Providing enough socialization. Many Rhodesian Ridgebacks have protective instincts toward strangers. They need extensive exposure to friendly people so they learn to recognize the normal behaviors of "good guys." Then they can recognize the difference when someone acts abnormally. Some Rhodesian Ridgebacks go in the opposite direction -- without enough socialization, they become timid or nervous. Animal aggression. Rhodesian Ridgebacks are hunting dogs with predatory instincts. Many Ridgebacks are dominant or aggressive toward other dogs of the same sex. Some have strong instincts to chase and seize cats and other fleeing creatures. The strong temperament. Like all hunting hounds, Rhodesian Ridgebacks have an independent mind of their own and are not pushovers to raise and train. Some Rhodesian Ridgebacks are willful, obstinate, and dominant (they want to be the boss) and will make you prove that you can make them do things. You must show them, through absolute consistency, that you mean what you say.

Great idea both of you have. Just took a look at the DOL adults dogs page http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/dogs.asp Several really nice Whippets, a couple of smooth collies and lots of other really nice dogs....take a look lambo

Well looking at the animal shelters tells me that even though it may be possible, a lot of people fail to see it through sucessfully. I do admire lambo for trying to reserch this before jumping in iwth both feet.

Oh yes I am sure it can be done and really I am not saying you can not do it. If you research raising the pup like I think you will do, that will be a big plus in your favor. However I think you would save yourself and your family over a year of stress by finding a young adult dog that was suitable for your family and lifestyle. Edited to add, I think a puppy would be far more likely to put your wife in to melt down! A nice young dog that knows how to take a crap outside, who comes when called and does not chew up her new lounge would be far more likely to melt her heart.

It is just the opposit. If you work with a good rescuer, they know the dogs well before they place them. You will know exactly what you are getting. That is why the failure rate on placements with a good rescue group is usually very low. Raising a pup anything can happen. How many pups have you raised?? It is not easy, and if you have limited time at home it will be very difficult indeed. I would never place a pup with you, as I think the likelyhood of failure is too high. I do not think you are a bad person, I just think you have no idea what you are taking on. That is not to say you could not work your way through it. You may also change some of your expectations as you live with the pup. I still am very unclear on how many hours in a 24 hour day the pup will be alone. 8 hours when you sleep and you said 10 for work. Then there is diner time and kids activities, so I am guessing you have a few hours a day to spend with the pup??

Yes 2 different breeds. You mentioned border collies yesterday, that breed I have worked with for many years and I feel is not suitable for you for a multitude of reasons. Collie is a different breed and we also have a collie, now 15 years old. She is a fine companion, would be lovey with your children, but they do shed and bark which are 2 things you said you wanted to avoid. Call Weim rescue in QLD, I think they are affilited with the breed club in QLD. Tell them you are interested in learning more about the breed and would like to foster a rescue for a short time if that was possible...take if from there.

Our collie is a rough, but I had a friend with a smooth years ago and her dog shed a lot as I remember. I think more important is this is a breed that often, if you leave them outside, will tend to bark..a lot. Our dog barks for the sheer joy of it.... when she sees something, when she hears something and when she just feel like it. (She is barking right now as my husband banged something in the other room...LOL) They are lovely sweet dogs and make wonderful companions, but I just wonder if they need to be indoors most of the time to prevent barking in your situation. Ihave a sugestion, which might also be nice for your children.Could you consider doing foster care for a short period of time. I do not mean take in a problem dog, but just a normal sort of dog with out any major problems. See how it feels to have a dog around the place. How your ideas about where the dog can go and not go, and how much time you will have, and how the kids and wife find the whole process. I think it might give you a far better idea of what you want to find in a dog and what you are willing to give to that dog in return. It might prevent you from making a big mistake too. Maybe take on a Weim who needs foster care for a few weeks?

I have a collie, she barks all the time when outside. Shedding is very heavy all the time, needs lots of brushing and under raking to keep the under coat at bay. She also likes to be close to me, she will follow me to the loo, but every dog I have will do that. Has all three diseases, epi/focal and mild grand mal seizures, heart/valve problems and collie eye (CEA). May also have HD, but have not had xrays. This sums up my collie pretty well. Collie Temperament What's Good About 'Em, What's Bad About 'Em (includes Rough and Smooth Collies) By Michele Welton. Copyright © 2000-2010 Though they have a working heritage as a herding breed, modern Collies need only moderate exercise. But they need a great deal more personal attention -- Collies become unhappy if left for long periods of time without the companionship of people or other pets, and unhappiness can result in chronic barking or destructive chewing. Collies have a soft, sweet personality. They do not do well in an environment with frequent tension or loud voices. Collies are peaceful with other pets and polite with strangers. As with most sweet-natured breeds, there is potential for timidity; young Collies need to be thoroughly socialized in order to build a confident temperament. Collies can have a mild stubborn streak, but they're easy to train if you maintain a calm voice and a light hand on the leash. Sensitivity is one of the hallmarks of this breed. Often they need only verbal corrections, and they become confused and skittish if you jerk them around. Praise, gentle guidance, and food rewards are all that is needed with most Collies. Some individuals, unfortunately, can be hypersensitive and highstrung. The most common behavioral issue is excessive barking (typically when bored and left outside). >Smooth Collies, in general, are more energetic, more athletic and agile, more outgoing, and retain more working instincts. Rough Collies, in general, are calmer and more reserved. Some say Smooth Collies tend to be extroverts, and Rough Collies tend to be introverts. If you want a dog who... Is elegant and graceful, rather than powerful Comes in two coat lengths and many striking colors Is sweet-natured and gentle Makes a good watchdog, but is not aggressive Is polite with strangers and other pets Is athletic and animated but needs only moderate exercise Is not difficult to train A Rough or Smooth Collie may be right for you. If you don't want to deal with... Providing sufficient exercise and mental stimulation to prevent boredom "Separation anxiety" (destructiveness and barking) when left alone too much Shyness or fearfulness in some lines, or when not socialized enough Chasing things that move (instinctive herding behaviors) Potential barking Frequent brushing and combing (Rough coat) Heavy shedding (both coats) Potential for serious health problems A Rough or Smooth Collie may not be right for you. If I were considering buying or adopting a Rough or Smooth Collie My major concerns would be: Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. Though they don't need miles of running exercise, Collies must have regular opportunities to vent their energy and do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and destructive chewing. Providing enough socialization. Standoffish by nature, Collies need extensive exposure to people and to unusual sights and sounds. Otherwise their natural caution can become shyness. Emotional sensitivity. Be honest...is there tension in your home? Are people loud or angry or emotional? Are there arguments or fights? Collies are extremely sensitive to stress and may behave neurotically if the people in their home are having family problems. Collies are peaceful dogs who need a harmonious home. Barking. Some Collies, especially those who are highstrung or bored, are often too quick to sound the alarm at every new sight and sound. You have to be equally quick to stop them. For the same reason, Collies should not be left outside in your yard, unsupervised. Heavy shedding. Rough and Smooth Collies shed a LOT. You'll find hair and fur is deposited all over your clothing, upholstery, carpeting, and under your furniture. Regular brushing and combing (Rough coat). Without frequent brushing, Rough Collies will become a matted mess. Even Smooth Collies need frequent brushing because of all the shedding. (Hairs that end up in the brush do not end up on your clothes, furniture, and floor.) Health problems. Eye diseases are very common, as are skin disorders. Epilepsy and heart disease have become concerns, as well.

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Where can I read 'The Lithuanian Goat Herding Dog' ?? Ta

So great to read that Jed is feeling a bit better!!! I (and I am sure everyone) really really miss Jed's input. All my prayers for Jed's recouvery over the next few weeks.

One other thing to consider about owning a border collie is you really do need to join the Church. Here is a bit information about that aspect of ownership. Laughing Dog Press author Laurie Leach CHURCH OF THE DIVINE BORDER COLLIE At first glance, the Border Collie (BC) looks like a typical working dog. Border Collie aficionados have graphically described the BC as a well-proportioned chunk of muscle….. Many casual dog owners have mistaken this for an ordinary dog and taken it home. They spend an average of six weeks in rehab getting over the experience. ...It became clear to me in my reading and observation for this article that ownership of a BC ceased to be about owning a dog at some point in history. It became a religion. In order to see if the relationship between BC and owner does in fact meet the criteria, let's start with the Webster definition of religion: A belief in a divine or superhuman power to be obeyed and worshiped as the creator and ruler of the universe. Expression of belief in conduct and ritual. A specific system of beliefs involving a code of ethics and a philosophy. Let's see if interactions between people and BC fit this bill. Proof One: Border Collie people believe, and possibly rightfully, that this is a breed superior to all others. They state unequivocally that they are the world's finest sheepdogs, that they have a stunning intelligence, and that even in a world of technology, they will never be replaced by a machine. Clearly this dog is seen as superhuman. This belief exists despite documented cases of BCs trying for several hours to herd a stump. Proof Two: Border Collies have a trait called, “THE EYE.” The eye is a hypnotic stare that the BC turns on anything it wants to control. BC owners talk about “THE EYE” with reverence and love to expound on the way the dogs use it to control sheep. It would be fine if these dogs used “THE EYE” only with sheep, but the BC turns “THE EYE” on anything it might engage to produce fun or work. Recently I dog-sat a BC for the weekend. Two days. Forty-eight hours of being stared at. No blinking…... Learning to live every day in the presence of “THE EYE” without being institutionalized for a mental or physical collapse is at the heart of success in this religion. Proof Three: Border Collie owners speak in tongues. Speaking in tongues, of course, refers to unintelligible sounds viewed by some as a manifestation of a deep religious experience. In the case of the BC owner, speaking in tongues comes in the form of whistles that communicate something between owner and dog. If you attend any sheepdog trials, you will be able to observe this phenomena first hand. The owner will stand in the middle of an arena, lost in space, uttering a series of whistles while her dog races around chasing sheep. It is touching to watch the dog continue his work although his human has clearly crossed over to another dimension. Proof Four: Border Collie owners operate by a different set of rituals than other dog owner. They dedicate their days to channeling their dog's energy. They quit their jobs. They are forced to buy acreage. They are directed by their leaders not to leave the dog alone for more than three hours a day lest the pup become bored and remodel the house. Some religions ask members to take a couple of years off to dedicate to the church. The BC owner takes thirteen years off. Unemployment is the sign of the true believer in this church. I rest my case. Clearly Border Collie ownership goes much beyond an ordinary human-dog relationship. Joining the Church Want to be cool? Get a Border Collie. Want to move a sheep across your 3000 acre ranch? Get two Border Collies. Want to really compete at agility? Get a Border Collie. Want to have a job, a life, and your sanity? Get a Lab.

Just one more comment, please learn how to buy a dog before you go shopping for one. I would never buy a dog from the Gumtree nor would I use the prices as a guide. This should be a totally different topic and a very important one.

Border collie would have been very low on my list for you. Besides how they look what is attracting them to you? I did rescue for years, border collies are high on the list of dogs taken to the shelter, so you never need to buy one just look at the animal shelter...LOL Border collie, an intense herding dog, that loves to be on the go all day and that is combine with a mind like no other dog. What every border collies do they do it well, for example they can dismantal your leather couch in 1 hour in the exact reverse order it was put together. Their thick coat sheds all over your house. They can take to barking if lonely and they need close contact with their owners, heaps of training and metal stimlution. I would call them a very demanding breed and I speak from many years of experience with this breed. Did you read the border collie on What good about them what bad about them? Border Collie Temperament What's Good About 'Em, What's Bad About 'Em By Michele Welton. Copyright © 2000-2010 This working farm dog is famous for his intimidating "eye" -- a fixed, hypnotic stare as he crouches low and creeps up on the sheep. One of the most intelligent of all breeds, the Border Collie is also one of the most challenging to live with. His superior intellect, combined with his intensity and obsessive zeal for working, are his most impressive features -- and also the ones that make him unsuitable for most homes. This sharp-eyed, quick-thinking, fanatical workaholic has been bred for endless miles of sprinting and stop-and-go action. If it isn't possible for him to work livestock, you must substitute advanced obedience, agility, jogging or biking, chasing balls, and playing Frisbee -- lots and lots and lots of it. Without physical and mental stimulation, Border Collies become hyperactive and will drive you up the wall with obsessive and destructive behaviors as they seek creative outlets for their physical and mental energy. High intelligence does mean they learn very quickly - but that includes learning how to do anything they set their minds to. They are master escape artists who can virtually pick the lock on your gate. Trying to train a Border Collie, in fact, can be frustrating, because they are constantly thinking, analyzing, and reacting to every tiny movement you make. They can be a bit high-strung and oversensitive to sound and touch. Border Collies are passionate gatherers of cars, bikes, joggers, cats, other dogs, livestock, deer, and running children -- poking, pushing, and nipping if the pursued person or animal or object doesn't cooperate. You must stay one step ahead of this challenging breed, and most households are simply not up to the task. If you want a dog who... Is medium-sized and natural-looking Has a handsome, easy-groom coat Is very athletic and thrives on TONS of exercise and training Is exceptionally intelligent and versatile -- when well-trained, can learn and do almost anything Will play fetch for hours and hours A Border Collie may be right for you. If you don't want to deal with... An intense athlete who can drive you up the wall with obsessive and destructive behaviors if you don't provide lots of exercise and creative outlets for his energy Compulsive chasing and nipping at things that move: children, joggers, other animals, bikes, cars "Separation anxiety" (destructiveness and barking) when left alone too much Shyness when not socialized enough Shedding A Border Collie may not be right for you. If I were considering buying or adopting a Border Collie My major concerns would be: Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. Border Collies MUST have frequent opportunities to vent their energy and to use their busy minds to do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and destructive chewing. Bored Border Collies are famous for chewing through drywall, ripping the stuffing out of sofas, and turning your yard into a moonscape of giant craters. If you simply want a pet for your family, and don't have the time or inclination to take your dog running or hiking or biking or swimming, or to get involved in herding, or agility (obstacle course), or advanced obedience, or tracking, or a similar canine activity, I do not recommend this breed. Border Collies were never intended to be simply household pets. Their working behaviors (chasing, nipping, poking, barking) are inappropriate in a normal household setting. Trying to suppress these "hardwired" behaviors, without providing alternate outlets for their high energy level, is virtually impossible. Compulsive chasing and stalking. Most Border Collies are obsessed with stalking and chasing anything that moves -- children, joggers, bicycles, cars, cats, birds. Some Border Collies, unfortunately, go further than that and will seize and kill small running animals, including cats. Separation anxiety. More than most other breeds, Border Collies need a great deal of companionship and do not like being left alone for more than a few hours. They become anxious, which they express by chewing and barking. Providing enough socialization. Standoffish by nature, Border Collies need extensive exposure to people and to unusual sights and sounds. Otherwise their natural caution can become shyness. Training problems. Border Collies are one of smartest and most capable breeds in the world. Many are eager to please and learn very, very quickly. But many Border Collies are very difficult for the average person to train. Some are manipulative, i.e. using their intelligence to get YOU to do what they want you to do. Some are willful and dominant (they want to be the boss) and will make you prove that you can make them do things. Many are so sensitive that if you correct them too harshly, they may freeze and "shut down." Finally, many Border Collies are frustrating to train because they're hyper-reactive to the slightest sound or movement you make. They are "anticipators" who keep trying to guess what comes next. They will sit, or lie down, or run toward you, or run away from you, when you simply open your mouth or lift your hand. It often takes an experienced trainer to bring out the inherent genius in this breed. "Respect Training" is mandatory. My Border Collie Training Page discusses the program you need. Fence security. Quite a few Border Collies are escape artists. With such dogs, fences should be high, with wire sunk into the ground along the fence line to thwart digging. Gates should be extra-secure, as clever Border Collies can virtually pick locks. Frankly, most Border Collies are "too much dog" for the average household. This is a serious working dog with a complex personality. Very few homes can provide what this breed really needs to be satisfied and well-behaved. me... There is not one word of this I disagree with. However as others have said, if you would accpet an adult dog, you might be able to find an adult border collie that was not typical of the breed and was suitable for your home, but you need to work with a rescuer experienced in the breed. I am being negative again..Sorry but this is know as a high failure breed in unprepared pet homes around the world. If you want to learn more about BC in person let me known and I can arrange it in QLD.

Yes agree Poodlefan. I was thinking Flat Coat, a little calmer than a golden, but not sure about leaving it outside, might bark a fair bit, they can be hard to find. I know a breed expert in the states, top field retrievers and show dogs, if interested in chatting with them about the breed PM for their email address. Border Terrier and Australian Terrier are also breeds to look at. If they could be house dogs I think either of these might be perfect. Both are strudy dogs. Portuguese from when my friend had one to train as a service dog (it failed), needed a lot of attention and was stubborn, also a lot of grooming and was a big bouncy rather hyper puppy for several years, but that was only one dog I knew. Dog will be allowed inside Shortstep.. wouldn't have recommended too many of those breeds otherwise. Was under the impression it was only for a few hours in the evening and only in one room of the house (family room type) ???

Yes agree Poodlefan. I was thinking Flat Coat, a little calmer than a golden, but not sure about leaving it outside, might bark a fair bit, they can be hard to find. I know a breed expert in the states, top field retrievers and show dogs, if interested in chatting with them about the breed PM for their email address. Border Terrier and Australian Terrier are also breeds to look at. If they could be house dogs I think either of these might be perfect. Both are strudy dogs. Portuguese from when my friend had one to train as a service dog (it failed), needed a lot of attention and was stubborn, also a lot of grooming and was a big bouncy rather hyper puppy for several years, but that was only one dog I knew.

Can Whippets handle being left outside all day year round? I am thinking I always see them with coats on in the winter. I have had some experience with Airedales and I would strongly NOT recommend them for your situlation, I know you don't like this site but please read this. Airedale Terrier Temperament What's Good About 'Em, What's Bad About 'Em By Michele Welton. Copyright © 2000-2010 A rowdy handful as a puppy, the Airedale Terrier matures into a dignified, self-assured, courageous adult. This athletic dog romps and plays hard. Without vigorous exercise and lots of personal interaction, he is easily bored and may become destructive as he seeks to entertain himself. Young Airedale Terriers are especially rambunctious and can turn your garden into a moonscape of excavated moles and tulip bulbs. Mental stimulation (hunting, obedience, agility, playing games) is essential for this thinking breed. You can't just leave him alone all day or stick him outside and hope that he'll lie down quietly and be happy. An Airedale's attitude toward strangers varies from enthusiastically friendly to sensibly polite, but even the friendly ones tend to be vigilant watchdogs. Some individuals are more protective than others. With other dogs, most Airedale Terriers are bold and aggressive, and with their strong hunting instincts they must be exposed early to cats, else they may not be safe with cats. Rabbits and rodents are not a wise addition to the household. This breed is very smart, but also independent. Unless you establish yourself as the alpha (number one), he can be headstrong. Yet assertive owners who know how to lead will find him eminently trainable. If you want a dog who... Is medium to large, sturdy and athletic Is energetic, yet when well-trained and well-exercised, can also be calm and dignified Is exceptionally versatile -- can learn and do almost anything Makes a sensible guardian (some individuals) Sheds -- but less than many other breeds An Airedale Terrier may be right for you. If you don't want to deal with... Vigorous exercise requirements Rowdiness and exuberant jumping, especially when young Destructiveness and barking when bored or not exercised enough Providing enough socialization so his natural protectiveness doesn't become aggression Aggression toward other animals -- chasing instincts Strong-willed mind of his own, requiring a confident owner who can take charge Frequent trimming and clipping of the wiry coat An Airedale Terrier may not be right for you. If I were considering buying or adopting an Airedale Terrier My major concerns would be: Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. Airedale Terriers MUST have regular opportunities to vent their energy and to use their busy minds to do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and destructive chewing. Bored Airedales can destroy your home or yard in a single day. If you simply want a casual pet for your family, and don't have the time or inclination to take your dog running or hiking or biking or swimming, or to get involved in agility (obstacle course), or tracking, or dogsledding, or schutzhund (protection), or a similar canine activity, I do not recommend this breed. Airedale Terriers were never intended to be simply household pets. Their working behaviors (following scents, searching for prey animals, chasing things that run, digging, exploring) can be a nuisance in a normal household setting. Trying to suppress these "hardwired" behaviors, without providing alternate outlets for their high energy level, can be difficult. Bounciness. Young Airedales (up to about two years old) romp and jump with great vigor, and things can go flying, including people. If you have small children, or if you or anyone who lives with you is elderly or infirm, I do not recommend Airedale puppies. The temptation to play roughly is too strong in many young Airedales. Providing enough socialization. Many Airedale Terriers love everybody, but many others have protective instincts toward strangers. Thus, Airedales need extensive exposure to friendly people so they learn to recognize the normal behaviors of "good guys." Then they can recognize the difference when someone acts abnormally. Animal aggression. Airedale Terriers were developed to hunt other animals. Many Airedales are dominant or aggressive toward other dogs of the same sex. Many have strong instincts to chase and seize cats and other fleeing creatures. If anything goes wrong in the breeding, socializing, training, handling, or management of this breed, it is capable of seriously injuring or killing other animals. The strong temperament. The best Airedales are versatile working dogs, capable of learning a great deal, but they have an independent mind of their own and are not pushovers to raise and train. They can be manipulative, and some are willful, obstinate, and dominant (they want to be the boss) and will make you prove that you can make them do things. You must show them, through absolute consistency, that you mean what you say. To teach your Airedale to listen to you, "Respect Training" is mandatory. My Airedale Training Page discusses the program you need. Grooming. To keep their wiry coat free of mats, Airedales require regular brushing, and also clipping and trimming every few months. The coat care requirements are one reason casual owners give up Airedales to rescue groups.

Indigirl, that sounds about right for Goldens. They are lovely dogs with very sweet temperaments but they do take a long time to grow up. Lambo, I think the web site is not for everyone as it does draw attention to problems that are frequently found in breeds, not to say all dogs in the breed will be like the discription but many will be. It is always nicer to only look on the good side, but it is the bad side (and unrealistic expectations) that lead to cute little puppies ending up in the animal shelters a few months later when things do not work out as planned. Lets look at Goldens, I would say the web sites discription on the negative side of Goldens is better than Indigirls discription of her dog. For example they do not mention barking, they do not mention water/mud attraction and digging, both of which I have seen in the breed many times. Another possible negative might be their size. Golden Retriever Temperament What's Good About 'Em, What's Bad About 'Em By Michele Welton. Copyright © 2000-2010 The Golden Retriever's kindly expression says it all. This is one of the finest family dogs in the world: cheerful, demonstrative, trustworthy with everyone, and forgiving of any mistakes made by inexperienced owners. Give this breed two brisk walks each day, play fetch games, and take him out for a good run once a week, and he is adaptable to almost any lifestyle. Friendly with everyone (strangers, children, dogs, cats, smaller pets), his bark is welcoming rather than protective. You must control his tendency to chew on objects and to mouth your hands -- provide a box filled with toys so he can carry things around in his mouth. A Golden Retriever remains enthusiastically puppy-like for many years, so early obedience training is required to instill calmness and good manners. Eager to please and wonderfully responsive, he is nonetheless distracted by exciting sights and sounds, so you must be both patient and persistent. The mind and heart of a Golden is sweet and gentle, but his body is robust -- until he's taught not to pull on the leash, you'll need good biceps to walk him. If you want a dog who... Is large, athletic, and natural-looking Has a pretty feathered coat Has a cheerful, tail-wagging nature Is steady-tempered and dependable with everyone Is peaceful with other animals Is eager to please and very responsive to training A Golden Retriever may be right for you. If you don't want to deal with... Providing a goodly amount of exercise Exuberant jumping, especially when young Mouthiness -- chewing on things, carrying things around Regular brushing and combing to avoid mats and tangles Heavy shedding A distinctive doggy odor Concerns about a multitude of serious health problems A Golden Retriever may not be right for you. If I were considering buying or adopting a Golden Retriever My major concerns would be: Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. Golden Retrievers need regular opportunities to vent their energy and do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by becoming destructive. Bounciness. Young Golden Retrievers (up to two or three years old) romp and jump with great vigor, and things can go flying, including people who are not steady on their feet. If you have small children, or if you or anyone who lives with you is elderly or infirm, consider adopting an adult Golden Retriever from a rescue group. Adults have a more settled temperament and you can specifically look for a calmer one. Shedding and doggy odor. Golden Retrievers have a noticeable doggy odor and shed heavily. Be prepared for regular vacuuming. Me...So that is not really a negative discription of the breed, I think it is pretty realistic. So if all this sounds like a dog your wife will love to have around and your ideal puppy to raise, then.... The next questions I would ask of breeders and owners of this breed is, How will it handle being apart from it's family 18 hours a day? I am guessing the dog will be left outside in the day and maybe crated at night in the fmaily room, will this dog be barking to get with the people? Will it tear up the garden all day long when it is alone ? Will it bark and bother the neighbors when everyone is away at work? These dogs get pretty big fast and as pups and younger dog then are pretty reckless with their bodies, will the kids deal with a big dog that might bang into them and a big dog they cannot control with their size alone? These sorts of questions about the reality of managing this dog in your life.

LOL they do lay it on a bit thick, but the do make the points they are trying to make. I do recommend though that anyone interested in a breed should also speak to people in that breed. Lines of dogs in the same breed can be very different too.

Here is the info on Weimaraners from What Good about them What bad about them. Does this sound like a dog that you could be happy with and you could meet all of it's needs? Weimaraner Temperament What's Good About 'Em, What's Bad About 'Em By Michele Welton. Copyright © 2000-2010 The high-energy Weimaraner, bred to hunt all day, needs an athletic owner who can meet his demanding exercise needs: running, biking, hiking, jogging, field work. Too much confinement leads to hyperactivity and destructiveness, as does being left alone too much. A bored Weimaraner will bark up a storm, demolish your home and yard, even attempt to escape in search of adventure. Reserved with strangers, dominant with other dogs, predatory toward small animals such as cats and rabbits, most Weimaraners need an owner who can provide leadership, socialization, and training beyond the beginner level. Though this breed is headstrong, in the right hands he is capable of learning and doing virtually anything. Indeed, a well-matched owner will find the Weimaraner a loyal, aristocratic gentleman of great presence and character. A novice with little time and space will find him a rambunctious bully, difficult to control. If you want a dog who... Is large, powerful, and tautly-muscled, a true athlete bred to hunt all day Has a sleek, carefree coat Is unusual-looking, with a ghostly gray/silver coat and eerie light eyes Is packed with energy and thrives on vigorous exercise and athletic activities In the right hands, is a loyal, aristocratic gentleman of great presence and character Is watchful with strangers, so makes a keen watchdog (with a booming bark) A Weimaraner may be right for you. If you don't want to deal with... Vigorous exercise requirements Rowdiness and exuberant jumping, especially when young or not exercised enough "Separation anxiety" (massive destructiveness and barking) when left alone too much Suspiciousness or skittishness toward strangers when not socialized enough Aggression toward other animals A strong-willed mind of his own, requiring a confident owner who can take charge Excessive barking when bored A Weimaraner may not be right for you. If I were considering buying or adopting a Weimaraner My major concerns would be: Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. Weimaraners MUST have regular opportunities to vent their energy and do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and massive destructive chewing. Bored Weimaraners are famous for chewing through drywall, ripping the stuffing out of sofas, and turning your yard into a moonscape of giant craters. If you simply want a pet for your family, and don't have the time or inclination to take your dog running or hiking or biking, or to get involved in hunting, or advanced obedience, or tracking, or agility (obstacle course), or a similar canine activity, I do not recommend this breed. Trying to suppress their "hardwired" desire to run and work, without providing alternate outlets for their high energy level, can be difficult. Bounciness. Young Weimaraners (up to about two years old) romp and jump with great vigor, and things can go flying, including people. If you have small children, or if you or anyone who lives with you is elderly or infirm, I do not recommend Weimaraner puppies. The temptation to bounce and play roughly is just too strong in many young Weimaraners. Separation anxiety. More than most other breeds, Weimaraners need a great deal of companionship and do not like being left alone for more than a few hours. They tend to express their unhappiness through destructive chewing and barking. If you work all day, this is not the breed for you. Animal aggression. Many Weimaraners are dominant or aggressive toward other dogs of the same sex. Many have strong instincts to chase and seize cats and other fleeing creatures, including livestock and wildlife such as deer. If anything goes wrong in the breeding, socializing, training, handling, or management of this breed, it is capable of seriously injuring or killing other animals. The strong temperament. The best Weimaraners are versatile working dogs, capable of learning a great deal, but they have an independent mind of their own and are not pushovers to raise and train. They are easily distracted by exciting sights, sounds, and scents. They can be manipulative, and some are willful, obstinate, and dominant (they want to be the boss) and will make you prove that you can make them do things. You must show them, through absolute consistency, that you mean what you say. To teach your Weimaraner to listen to you, "Respect Training" is mandatory. My Weimaraner Training Page discusses the program you need. Barking. Weimaraners are often too quick to sound the alarm at every new sight and sound. You have to be equally quick to stop them. If you work all day and have close neighbors, Weimaraners are not a good choice for you. For the same reason, Weimaraners should NEVER be left outside in your yard, unsupervised. Housebreaking. The pointing breeds can be a bit slow to pick this up. Expect several months of consistent crate training. Health problems. Weimaraners are extremely prone to a life-threatening digestive syndrome called bloat. Joint and bone problems, eye diseases, bleeding disorders, and cancer also make this breed risky in the health department.

Just remebered this http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/dogbreeds/index.html If you click on the link for the breed you are interested in, the will open a breed page for that breed. The very first link on that page will lead to a page called 'What's Good about Whats Bad about them'. This might be helpful to get you started but please ask for personal advise before proceeding with any breed.