mr.mister

Oh no, poor poor Indie.

As pers mentioned, liquids might be a good idea. I have a very good chicken soup recipe that produces a clear broth - if you'd like it, let me know.

Hoping that he picks up soon. Poor boy.

Perhaps if this girl's situation was posted in Rescue you might have some luck finding someone to take her? To be very honest, there's no way I'd be wanting to rehome her in the state she's in at the moment - that will be sure to cause a lot of heartache later on. She really needs an experienced foster carer to start training her, or a very experienced person who knows exactly what they're getting into when they adopt her.

I would suggest feeding her separately from the others - ie; in another room or in a crate.

eta: I don't know if you've already seen these links but thought I'd post them. They came up when I searched SA rescue on Google:

http://www.sadogrescue.com/default.html

http://www.animalwelfare.com.au/

http://www.dogsacrossaustralia.com/index.p...5&Itemid=90

Are there any experienced fosters who could take her and train her up before she's rehomed?

I've just remembered, the worst breeding 'wanted' ad I have ever seen was actually an article (yes, the paper did a story on it ;) ) in my (then) local paper, the Cairns Post. A guy had 'rescued' some random large male heinz off the street, and hadn't bothered to desex him. There was a bitch next door that was in season, and it was apparently driving the male heinz absolutely insane, so he was appealing to the public if anyone had a 'girlfriend' for the heinz so that he could relieve himself and 'get some' so he wouldn't fret so much.

I'll bet they found a willing suitor, and I'll bet it did wonders to 'calm him down'.

I wish I'd thought of sending a letter to the editor complaining about the article.

Perhaps he should have bought one of these instead http://boingboing.net/2009/07/30/adult-toy-for-dogs.html ;) :D :D

Oh my god, I had no idea something like that even existed! :love: It has a hole and everything!

I've just remembered, the worst breeding 'wanted' ad I have ever seen was actually an article (yes, the paper did a story on it ) in my (then) local paper, the Cairns Post. A guy had 'rescued' some random large male heinz off the street, and hadn't bothered to desex him. There was a bitch next door that was in season, and it was apparently driving the male heinz absolutely insane, so he was appealing to the public if anyone had a 'girlfriend' for the heinz so that he could relieve himself and 'get some' so he wouldn't fret so much. :D

I'll bet they found a willing suitor, and I'll bet it did wonders to 'calm him down'. :D

I wish I'd thought of sending a letter to the editor complaining about the article.

Kids shouldnt be allowed on fraser full stop i dont even know why the parents even took the toddler there dingoes are a dying species as it is and now two more are gone. I feel sorry for this child but in my opinion to a wild animal, baby creatures are seen as easy prey. Watch lions and wolves they would prefer to catch a baby animal because they are easier to catch. As horrible as that sounds and i hate to say it but its true you cant blame these dingoes because of their natural instinct.

I don't think it needs to be as far as banning toddlers/young children, my friend went over Easter Weekend and her toddler came out just fine. It comes down to the parents being responsible about their children. If you don't want to keep a constant eye on your child then don't go to Fraser Island or leave your kids at home with babysitters/family because they need to be closely and constantly supervised.

Yes, but unfortunately there are a lot of people out there without any common sense who do not properly supervise their kiddies. It may be a tough restriction but if it saves lives (of both the dingo and human kind)...

Not allowing children under a certain age rules out the scenario of the young child wandering off and getting attacked. Heck, I'm pretty sure one of the islands off Cairns in FNQ (Lizard, I think?) have an age restriction and that's only for quiet enjoyment of the island, nothing to do with predators.

I know this is a very old thread ;) but was doing a search on this guy as I have just been lent his book to read, I am through the first chapter but am struggling with it :D , already I am finding him annoying but I am trying to push through it to get to his theories.

Anyone else read it?

Yes, I have. I found his story very interesting and like someone else said, take some bits from it and learn, but take it all with a pinch of salt. I don't agree with all his stuff but regardless it is a very fascinating life story, and a lot of what he says does make sense.

If he's three and you aren't using him in an ANKC registered breeding program, then he's fine to neuter and you can be sure that it's not going to happen again.

+1

Best of luck though with the remainder of the season, I don't envy you!

so sad. the level of ignorance out there is just really upsetting.

Dali is absolutely gorgeous! I love baby iggies.

Awesome choice of name by the way.

Was that it? Just that one-liner response? That's a little intense. ;)

Best of luck, hope you find out what happened and that they sort their crap out in the future.

Grammar errors make me laugh but outright stupid comments in dog ads just leave me

I have seen an ad for my breed and they think they are located 1 hour East of Brisbane I hope their dogs can swim.

Another one strives to breed "highly strung" dogs. Why would anyone want a dog from them?

Oh dear.

I saw an ad in the paper a few weeks back, advertising "Blue Healers". I wonder what their healing capabilities were? Physiotherapy? Naturopathy? Massage?

Also 3 shots....sorry but it got hit the first time anything after that was overkill the dog wasn't going to be coming back for more after the first hit. Disgusting.

Just to clarify here.. are you suggesting the officer should only have shot once, even if that meant leaving the animal seriously wounded?

I thought the dog was wounded and not killed regardless? But then again, it could well have died after the footage stopped and that wouldn't surprise me.

Another vote for Cavs here.

Breeders who charge more for different colours aren't really ethical, unfortunately. I can assure you with fairly steady confidence that none of those pups being sold for $1500 were show quality (not that show quality is the be all and end all at all for the Border), but what I mean to say is that they have no reason to charge so much for a coloured dog. A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.

As I said, red can vary - it can be a very deep colour or a very light straw. It is a recessive gene anyway, so that means all reds are recessive and for a dog to be red both its parents have to carry at least one copy of the gene. As Mystik said it is also a masking gene so a dog could be genetically black, or chocolate, but appear red because they have two copies of the red gene. You can sometimes tell a red dog's base colour by looking at their eye colour and lip and nose pigment. Colour should not have a bearing on the dog's temperament - unless I suppose it was a double merle (from a merle to merle mating) and had health issues causing it discomfort which made its temperament questionable.

Wheaten is NOT a colour, Caramel is NOT a colour They are red. Just plain old red.

Sadly the shiesters breeding them can't ask a tonne of dollars for plain old red, but Wheaten or Caramel LOOK OUT!!! Open chequebook!

Makes me soooooooooo mad

Couldn't agree more Mel.

Silver might be a dilute blue merle. Blue merle is usually black with merle. If you had a blue dog with merle it's solid bits would be blue so more errr silvery.

Lilac is chocolate diluted. You don't see them around much but fairly easy to get that colour if you wanted to.

That's a slate merle.

I didn't say that silver was a correct term did I? I was suggesting what colour the puppy might actually be.

Just making you aware that's all.

Jakemon the wheatens I assume would be a light red - red can vary from quite a deep colour to a light cream. No BC should really be 'scatty' regardless of colour so that would probably be more to do with temperament and training. And as they are a colour they do tend to get cashed in on.

Silver might be a dilute blue merle. Blue merle is usually black with merle. If you had a blue dog with merle it's solid bits would be blue so more errr silvery.

Lilac is chocolate diluted. You don't see them around much but fairly easy to get that colour if you wanted to.

That's a slate merle.

It seems a shame that that so many otherwise beautiful, healthy and lovable dogs die this way but this is the selection process for many working dogs ... I would hope that they use humane and relatively painless methods to terminate the dogs but no one really monitors these things ...

It is the same for racing greyhounds, they breed litter after litter, and then the pups that are no good are culled... I don't know the figures but imagine it would be very high

At least in the greyhound industry they have brought in laws about humane killing of the dogs, I have heard that there are still some trainers out there that don't follow the laws but hopefully most of them do.

I have two rescued greyhounds, Ryan was only 16 months old when dumped at a Sydney pound with 4 other young greyhounds, one can only assume that none of them were fast enough.

And my mum for most of her life had purebred, registered working kelpies, but her last kelpie was not purebred or registered, just one that she saved because Tess was no good as a worker and her owner was going to shoot her :D

Its how I got my first Kelpie. She was the last left and showing no signs of instinct and was headed for a bucket of water :D

It is very common out in the country. Those with orders will only keep enough pups to fill the order, and those who dont bother to desex their working dogs have a constant flow of puppies. It is certainly not ideal.

Hopefully drugs such as superlorine to castrate male dogs temporarily can be advertised more readily to stop this from happening.

I'm curious about those farmers who don't bother to desex - surely it would be more productive to have a spayed bitch who isn't constantly having to stop work toward the end of every pregnancy? Wouldn't it be more efficient if she never had to go through seasons/pregnancy/weaning pups/regaining condition?

mr.mister - I just saw your signature and love it!! I think we're on a similar page!! :-)

Haha, thankyou Emma.

oh wow.

I'm really not trying to be combative or difficult about it, I just really hate talking to kids. I find it painful to listen to kids talking.

You have misunderstood me(as I think you have the rest of the world) the way you hate is unhealthy, it is quite sad really, as I'm sure at some stage in your life you were a child. What happened dear, what makes you hate the child within? If you don't talk to kids, how are they supposed to learn the right way to approach a dog.

Who cares? If you don't like kids you don't bloody well like kids. Up until very recently I was the same. For me, I'd had a bad experience personally, but it is no-one's business to judge and to declare who should and shouldn't see a therapist. Those feelings and decisions are one persons, and one persons alone.

There's no such thing as 'silver' in Border Collies, in that definition. It would have most likely been a mis-understanding of the colours blue or merle.

ohhh. Yeah I think I had heard something about kittens getting done very early - isnt that dangerous because they are so young?? or am i just oblivious?

I am picking up my new kitten this weekend; she was desexed a week ago at about 10-11 weeks. This seems to be common practice amongst most registered cat breeders, though not all, so I assume the risks might be less for cats for some reason. They also bounce back incredibly quickly when it's done at that age because it's a miniscule operation. I'm also going to be showing my girl at cat shows so I also assume that early desexing doesn't have such a drammatic effect on structure - those are a lot of assumptions though.

Why leave entire? :D

I'm just a little confused as to why everyone is pushing not to desex. He's an adult dog and has done his growing, so he has had all the benefit of hormones to aid his growth. I personally think spinning the anaesthetic risk story is a bit silly because everything has it's risks, and desexing is a pretty small surgery.

The questions to be asked I suppose is, can this man effectively contain his dog if there happens to be a bitch in season? Some dogs are laid back and less inclined to go find her, but others break through walls to get the deed done.

And also, why risk the chance of more unwanted puppies? Accidents do happen, or this guy could even be tempted one day to let his boy 'become a dad'. I know when I was young and ignorant when we got our boy from the shelter we thought, such a shame they desexed him, he was a beautiful dog and would have made awesome puppies! But obviously because he had been desexed that took the option out of our hands - which is a good thing.

Just my opinion.