Nutrience Australia

Great news! Our reps have been working closely with them!

Hi there, Thought I should mention that Nutrience isn't sold in the USA so is not listed on USA sites as a reviewed product. If you understand the labels though you can see where it fits in. Another good information source is The Whole Dog Journal. They don't take advertising in their magazine so aren't bias toward any brand. You do have to subscribe to it though, to see all their articles in full. Regards, NA

Hi Meea, Thanks for letting know about Petbarn Alexandria. They did reduce some of their standard stock holdings based on stock turns per year. Because they are a big organisation, if they don't sell enough of one particular line they delete it and Dog Derma Large Breed is one of the slower sku's. If you're planning on buying it regularly you could ask for them to stock it for you so they always have a bag every month when you go in. We are working closely with Deborah the new manager. There should be a Nutrience promotion soon but it won't be in the catalogue, only at store level, so you have to physically go in or ring them. Appreciate you keeping me posted! NA

Hi petmad, Here's my suggestion for reading the ingredients panel on pet food. Hope it helps! Understanding Pet Food Ingredient Labels Legally, the first ingredient on any food packet must be the main ingredient or the heaviest (such as Cornflakes might have Corn as the biggest ingredient and then Wheat as the next then Sugar etc...). Some companies weigh the first ingredient when it ‘s un-cooked as the product is wet or damp and weighs more hence; can be put as the first ingredient. This is represented on premium pet food packaging by the word Chicken (wet meat) or Chicken Meat (wet meat). When cooked like premium dry food is, the first wet ingredient such as Chicken or Chicken Meat may then become the second or third heaviest, as all the moisture comes out. This is a technique that many food companies (pet food and human food) use. Chicken/Lamb/Duck Meal is meat that’s been dried and ground and will contain enough bone to get optimal calcium and phosphorous levels naturally. Because it’s dried when the ingredients are weighed in, you will be buying weight for weight meat not a percentage of water like that in fresh/wet meat. Splitting ingredients makes an ingredient, like wheat for example, look smaller than a meat ingredient. A brand may really have more wheat than chicken in their product. To make chicken look like the largest ingredient, they split the wheat into two separate names such as wheat and wheat meal. This means they can list them as second and third highest with Chicken appearing first when in fact there is more total wheat product than meat. The same applies to other grains like corn or rice – they can be split too. Fillers are usually referred to as gluten or gluten meals from plants such as wheat and corn. They appear on labels as Corn Gluten Meal, Wheat Gluten and Wheat Gluten Meal. They contain low amounts of protein compared to meat and hence have a lower biological value and are less digestible compared to meat. They can be used to boost a foods protein level without using expensive meat so technically a food should cost less if they use gluten or gluten meals as they’ll contain less meat. Some foods may even have 2 different forms of gluten/gluten meal so that meat looks like the highest ingredient. Meat By-products include off-cuts like heads, necks, feet and entrails. By-products are a lower quality protein source and lower amino acid profile which equals a lower biological value than meat or meat meal. It’s also a lot cheaper for manufacturers to buy. So when you’re paying top dollar for a premium food, expect top dollar ingredients. Premium pet foods should conform to standard ingredient definitions as regulated by the American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO). This means when you see Chicken By-product on a pet food label for example, it conforms to a standardised definition as set by AAFCO. Some companies like to say their By-product is better but it still matches that ingredient description set by AAFCO otherwise it would be something else all together. Look for low allergen formulas. Wheat, dairy or beef can cause allergies and show up as dry, itchy, red skin and a dull coat. Hydrolysed Chicken is liquefied fresh chicken. This gives fresh chicken benefits which includes increased palatability and makes the protein more easily digestible. Ground Corn and Brewers Rice are quality, low allergy carbohydrates. Corn and rice once cooked are highly digestible. Wheat and Sorghum are cheaper carbohydrates that have less digestible energy and are higher allergens. You shouldn’t see more than 2 grain ingredients in a food as more than that means the total amount of grain may be higher than the meat component. Chicken Fat - is the highest quality fat and is absorbed the most easily. It also provides 20 -30% of essential fatty acids for healthy skin and coat. Beef Tallow has only 3 - 5% of essential fatty acids and is less digestible. Animal Fat on a label means the manufacturers can change it from Pork, to Chicken to Beef whenever they like. Dried Beet Pulp is used as a major source of fibre, which helps digestion and elimination. Lower quality, higher allergy fibre sources are Wheat Shorts and Wheat Bran. Also look for added Nutraceuticals: Herbs: add health value to help with your pet’s life stages. Vitamins and Minerals (Vit A, D3, and E): for a perfectly balanced diet. Antioxidants such as Lutein Probiotics and Prebiotics for digestive health. Chelated Minerals for easier absorption A good super premium food won’t change the ingredients because the price of one ingredient went up. This is called a Fixed Formula. Super Premium foods also offer a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee. If a pet doesn't like the food, return the unused portion for money back! Pets need to be fed super premium foods for at least 2 - 3 months to see fabulous results!

Hi there, Yeh, I understand the space issue in the city - have you got one of our Nutrience storage containers when that promo was on? Well, we do have a full time rep in Victoria and have for 10 years but it would be chance if you bumped into them because they see alot of stores every day. We advertise in the Sydney Urban Animal and national Puppies and Dogs Annual, Kittens and Cats Annual, Dogs NSW, Dogs Vic and Burkes Backyard Magazine plus sponsor various shows/flyball. We'll never be able to keep up with the multinationals because we're privately owned, not floated on the stockmarket or a public company so we don't have external funding sources. The manufacturer Hagen prides itself in putting money back into quality ingredients to give consumer value for money. Oh, I wish we had a multimillion dollar budget to spread the word, I would be in my element!

hi there, Spoke to Petbarn Alexandria today and they have good stock right now and are ordering fortnightly plus carry almost every formula.

hi there, we've just had a free pet blanket promo on 6kg bags + that went throughout winter. Did you see that one? I can email you an outlet list too that may help you to source it?

really? i must say that i haven't done as much research as I would have liked but fillers wasn't something that I thought it was it was bad for. It was recommended by the breeder below are the ingredients, which are the fillers in it? Chicken, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Chicken By-Product Meal, Fish Meal (source of fish oil), Brewers Rice, Chicken Digest, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Dried Egg Product, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E, and Citric Acid), Brewers Dried Yeast, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride source of vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid], Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Minerals [Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate], Dicalcium Phosphate, DL-Methionine, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Marigold Extract (source of lutein), Chondroitin Sulfate, Rosemary Extract. and Royal canin Chicken meal, rice, corn gluten meal, brown rice, chicken fat, barley, wheat gluten, chicken, natural chicken flavor, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), anchovy oil (source of EPA/DHA), sodium silico aluminate, psyllium seed husk, potassium chloride, dried egg product, salt, fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS), dried brewers yeast extract (source of mannan-oligosaccharides), monosodium phosphate, L-lysine, taurine, DL-methionine, choline chloride, glucosamine hydrochloride, vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), biotin, D-calcium pantothenate, vitamin A acetate, niacin supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), riboflavin (vitamin B2) supplement, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], Trace Minerals [zinc oxide, zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite] , chondroitin sulfate, marigold extract (Tagetes erecta L.), preserved with natural mixed tocopherols (source of Vitamin E) and citric acid, rosemary extract. seems similar though second one has psyllim seed husk which seem like a filler Hi busters crew, Fillers are typically known as plant glutens (wheat gluten meal, corn gluten meal, wheat gluten). They add bulk to the food and are a source of lower quality protein compared to meat. They have a lower biological value so lower amino acid profile and less digestibility than meat. They can be used to increase protein in a food to the animals recommended amount instead of using meat which is more costly.

Yeh, completely understand that. Will check Petbarn Alexandria today (one on cnr of McEvoy St) re stocks and let you know status. +1 re the puppies sales. The Manager at PB Alex is extremely negative to the product. Hi Meea, Spelt your name right now! Thanks for letting me know about Petbarn Alexandria - will look into this. If there's anything you want me to clarify regarding Nutrience please feel free to ask. I like to be transparent about our product so people can make an informed choice. Haven't been able to get hold of the manager at Petbarn Alexandria today so will try again tomorrow. The multinationals are increasingly dominant in the chain stores making it hard for the private companies to get fair representation. A bit like Coles & Woolworths....

Yeh, completely understand that. Will check Petbarn Alexandria today (one on cnr of McEvoy St) re stocks and let you know status. +1 re the puppies sales. The Manager at PB Alex is extremely negative to the product. Hi Meea, Spelt your name right now! Thanks for letting me know about Petbarn Alexandria - will look into this. If there's anything you want me to clarify regarding Nutrience please feel free to ask. I like to be transparent about our product so people can make an informed choice.

Yeh, completely understand that. Will check Petbarn Alexandria today (one on cnr of McEvoy St) re stocks and let you know status.

It would be interesting to get more information on this. The only changes I'm aware of (and there may be people out there who can provide better info) are regarding stopping the irradiation of imported cat food. The flow on of that is that dog food that is irradiated must bear the information that the food is unsuitable for cats to eat. It stands to reason that if a company (not saying any one in particular) has previously irradiated their food without having to inform their customers, that they may prefer to make any changes to obtain irradiation free status, rather than slap a sticker on and deal with the aftermath. Personally, I'm a bit over the lack of openess with some companies. Back to the question: I'd like to see Artemis and RC or Nutrience. And I would certainly buy from my own vet if they were the best option (as opposed to a pet selling outlet). Sags Hi Sag, You are right that cat food cannot be irradiated anymore to meet AQIS regulations so it won't be available unless the manufacturer cooks it differently so it meets AQIS requirements prior to importation. But..... dog food can be irradiated but must now have a sticker on it saying that it isn't suitable for cats (although the sticker won't say it's irradiated but gives it away really). Nutrience has never been irradiated since we started importing it back 10 years ago. Because the company is family owned, both the manufacturer and us, plus we have a close relationship with them, they make the food to suit our requirements. They have their own state of the art manufacturing facility in New York State so Nutrience isn't contracted out to large private label facilities. They are very fussy about the quality of ingredients and test each raw material on arrival. They have a team of specialist scientists and vets that monitor quality control carefully.

[/quote name=Meea' date='4th Sep 2009 - 05:08 PM' post='3950503] Hi there, Am new to forums so a little rusty. Just want to reply in regards to Nutrience supply to independent Sydney stores and Petbarn. Petbarn are ranging Nutrience in 5 stores with the remaining 32 (approximately) having access to buy Nutrience and stock it but not a specific range of it. We have good stock levels and are continuing to happily sell to all our valued independent retailers Australia wide. If anyone has any questions about Nutrience please feel free to ask. I'm on leave for a long weekend from today so will answer any questions from Monday if I don't get a chance today. Please PM me with the names of any inner west stores where I can order and be supplied. I have placed orders at several and they tell me you simply do not deliver. Petbarn Alexandria/Pet warehouse - the same store really - tell me that they cannot order from you? Good to see you on here! edited: for spellunk Hi Mia, So sorry for the late reply. I am a total novice at this. I thought messages would go through to my direct email but obviously not. I will check the forum daily now. Petbarn Alexandria (not the old Pet Warehouse Petbarn) should carry a full range of Nutrience. I will call them tomorrow and just check to see what's going on. The other stores that carry it close to Alexandria are Pets On Broadway 02 9280 1624 in the Broadway Shopping Centre (that's one of our own store so we can get any formula and stock it regularly if we know you buy it). Balmain Village Vet 02 9555 9362 also stock Nutrience but you may want to check they have your formula and size. We have good stock of all formulas in our warehouse. Thanks for your patience until I get up to speed here!

Hi there, Am new to forums so a little rusty. Just want to reply in regards to Nutrience supply to independent Sydney stores and Petbarn. Petbarn are ranging Nutrience in 5 stores with the remaining 32 (approximately) having access to buy Nutrience and stock it but not a specific range of it. We have good stock levels and are continuing to happily sell to all our valued independent retailers Australia wide. If anyone has any questions about Nutrience please feel free to ask. I'm on leave for a long weekend from today so will answer any questions from Monday if I don't get a chance today.