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Hope this helps Here's list of lenes that I've found sofar for the Nikon D40 & D40x that have AF-S support (ie: have built in motors.) Prime lenses (less than 100mm long) : 01. Nikon 35mm f/1.8 AF-S 02. Nikon 50mm f/1.4G SIC SW Primer 03. Nikon 60mm f/2.8G ED AF-S Micro 04. Sigma 14mm f/2.8 EX HSM 05. Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM 06. Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM 07. Sigma 10mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Fisheye 08. Sigma 4.5mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Circular Fisheye Wide-Angle Zoom Lenses (17mm and wider) : 01. Nikon 12-24mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S DX ) 02. Nikon 17-35mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S 03. Nikon 17-55mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S DX 04. Nikon 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S DX 05. Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8G ED AF-S 06. Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM 07. Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM 08. Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 HSM 09. Sigma 17-35mm F2.8-4 DG HSM 10. Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC 2 11. Tamron 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 DI-II Built in Motor LD IF AF 12. Tamron 17-50mm F/2.8 XR Di-II LD SP ZL IF Built In Motor 13. Tokina 12-24mm f/4 AT-X Pro DX AF Built in Motor Standard Zoom Lenses (between 18 and 28 at the wide end, and less than 200mm long) : 01. Nikon 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S DX 02. Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S VR DX 03. Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S ED DX 04. Nikon 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S 05. Nikon 28-70mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S 06. Nikon 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S ED VR DX 07. Nikon 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S VR IF-ED 08. Nikon 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S DX 09. Sigma 18-50mm f/3.5-5.6 DC HSM 10. Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8-4.5 DC OS HSM 11. Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro HSM 12. Sigma 18-125mm f/3.5-5.6 AF DC OS HSM 13. Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM 14. Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 IF Built In Motor 15. Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8 SP XR ZL Di LD IF Built In Motor Super-zoom Lenses (lenses 28mm or wider, also 200mm long or more) : 01. Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED-IF AF-S VR DX 02. Tamron 18-200mm AF f/3.5-6.3 XR Di II LD IF Macro Built In Motor 03. Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM 04. Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 II DC IF HSM 05. Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM 06. Tamron 18-250mm AF f/3.5-6.3 Di-II LD IF Macro Built In Motor 07 .Tamron 28-300mm AF f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD VC IF Macro Built in Motor 08. Tamron 18-270mm AF f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC LD IF Macro Built in Motor Telephoto Lenses (long lenses that don't fit in the previous categories and don't exceed 300mm): 01. Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR 02. Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED IF AF-S DX VR 03. Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED AF-S ED DX 04. Nikon 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR 05. Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8G AF-S VR IF-ED 06. Nikon 300mm f/4D ED-IF AF-S 07. Nikon 200mm f/2G ED-IF AF-S VR 08. Nikon 300mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR 0 09. Nikon 300mm f/2.8D AF-i ED (IF) 10. Nikon 105mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR Micro 11. Nikon 80-200mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S 12. Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM 13. Sigma 50-200mm f/4-5.6 DC OC HSM 14. Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG MACRO HSM 15. Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro HSM 16. Sigma 180mm f/3.5 EX DG Macro HSM 17. Sigma 80-200mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro 18. Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro 19. Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DG Macro 20. Sigma 100-300mm f/4 DG HSM 21. Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 DG HSM 22. Sigma 300mm f/2.8 EX DG IF HSM APO 23. Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD IF Macro Built in Motor 24. Tamron 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 Di LD Macro Built In Motor 25. Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD IF Macro Built in Motor Teleconverters : 01. AF-S Teleconverter TC-14E II 02. AF-S Teleconverter TC-17E II 03. AF-S Teleconverter TC-20E II Super Telephoto lenses (exceeding 300mm) : 01. Nikon 200-400mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S VR 02. Nikon 400mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S II 03. Nikon 400mm f/2.8G ED VR AF-S 04. Nikon 400mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-i 05. Nikon 500mm f/4D IF-ED AF-i 06. Nikon 500mm f/4D ED-IF AF-S 07. Nikon 500mm f/4G ED VR AF-S 08. Nikon 600mm f/4D ED-IF AF-S 09. Nikon 600mm f/4G ED VR AF-S 10. Nikon 600mm f/4D IF-ED AF-i 11. Sigma 50-500mm f/4-6.3 DG HSM 12. Sigma 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6 HSM 13. Sigma 300-800mm f/5.6 DG HSM 14. Sigma 150-500mm f/5-6.3 AF APO DG OS HSM 15. Sigma 120-400mm f/4.5-5.6 DG APO OS HSM 16. Sigma 500mm f/4.5 EX DG APO HSM 17. Sigma 800mm f/5.6 EX DG HSM APO

seen at cheap as cheaps pads for dogs to use as a mat for this. But reckon a pen outside in the shade would be better. Oh and check the thread out using bunning compost bins for a pen http://www.dolforums.com.au/lofiversion/in...hp/t134821.html They even use the pads you can get from cheap as cheaps

Yep that is what the breeder Im getting our pup from mentioned. He said don't really do much to their about 12 months of age and keep it more playing, not long walks etc. Stressed to me, (NO RUNNING EG going for a jog) Strongly suggests no jumping or throwing a ball to high as it makes them jump, he sorta says until full grown bones can get problems as they haven't fully developed. Must admit before he told this I thought you had to take for a 20min walk every night.

Thanks for all the replies I have a crate and intend to use it pretty well the way people have said. Eg While pup is inside more so while I can't give all our attention. Dont want mistakes and don't think pup should be left unattended at such a young age. However I plan to make a pen area outside for more while a pup and if we go out long periods, so the pup cant get hurt or into trouble. We have and area suitable around 6m x 4m that I intend converting. Just wondering is it cruel while out that pup to even adult dog be left in a penned area like that for while say we are at work and then when home dog is out. Eg I work fulltime and wife works maybe 4 hours or so 3 times a week in which time we were thinking a pen. Then when we are home pup would be with us and even at adult stage inside to a point. If we provided enough toys or a kong etc would the dog be ok and not bored etc. Just thinking out loud that this would stop 90% of problems as the maximum time left alone would be about 4-5hours and then he would have normal walks n exercise. Hope you don't mind stupid questions

Might be a silly question Is it still fine to let puppies play tug a war type games or chase the rope toy with you instead. Kinda like using it instead of mouthing or biting you and encouraging this with there prey drive. Will this teach them that its ok to do that but not do it to humans. Some people say the tug a war is good for work animals, but not for pets.

Only while a pup I guess and to stop chewing etc. As pup grows up then let have the whole yard on there own, but it seems that this is not always a good idea til they are a adult. Re your question that is the confusing bit that we are reading about and was wondering when do you trust the dog with the whole yard.

Getting a pup in around 5 weeks and I have been doing alot of research on training etc. My question is there is alot about crate training etc and it seems that to do it right alot of time is spent almost confined to quarters. Is it ok to pen an area in the backyard for the pup as well and if out for a while to leave pup in this area. I am wanting an inside / outside dog and feel sorry for dogs that don't have alot of space etc. Is it just while the dog is a pup that they should spend alot more time in a crate or a pen and at what age is a pup going to need more space. Sorry just getting alot of different views and it does seem that if you cant watch your pup then it should be crated. My thoughts is if I made a pen in the backyard if needed it can spend time in there as well and only use the crate more so at night or while indoors. But then at what age do you not keep the dog in a pen and let him have run of the backyard like majority of the uninformed pet owners out there that whinge about chewing problems etc. Sorry for the rant and rave just dont want to be cruel to the pup by confining if not needed.

ended up getting a black one 42" with 2 doors and a divider while pup is young. Down the track should make a good sized kennel as well with a canvas tarp over it. Went for the bigger one due to can use is as pup gets older and if we need to keep out of harms way down the track.

Haven't rang them yet, but what size did you get and are they the black or galvanized ones.

Been looking around for a crate for a puppy to use for awhile (Labrador) After going on ebay and different site I found the local pet shop had a 42" black collapsible with divider etc for $165. I think this is a good price as all I can find similar is $99 + 14 (divider) and $50 delivery here in Adelaide. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas where to get them maybe cheaper or even second hand.

Been looking around for a crate for a puppy to use for awhile (Labrador) After going on ebay and different site I found the local pet shop had a 42" black collapsible with divider etc for $165. I think this is a good price as all I can find similar is $99 + 14 (divider) and $50 delivery here in Adelaide. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas where to get them maybe cheaper or even second hand.