Sue & Waldo

Hi Sue & Cindy, I watched your clip a while ago but didn't have time to reply, so here goes. If you watch your clip you will see your dog interacts with the DB lots of times that you don't mark and reward, IMO she looks unsure as to what is being rewarded. You should read the steps over and over so your criteria of each step is very clear to you. You should also lift the DB everytime you mark her interaction with it so she cannot interact with it while you are getting a treat or what ever and not noticing what she does. The DB is not available to be rewarded until you represent it, she should be busting for the opportunitty to bump it again. You want her to be really excited to see that DB as that could be an opportunity to be rewarded. Also your reward marker could be quicker...YES not YEEESSSSSSS or use a clicker. The first time I used this method I had my chair next to the kitchen bench and the treats on the bench. so all I had to worry about was the DB and the clicker. Remember you should be getting 20 good solid nose bumps out of 20 before you move to the next step. From that clip, I don't think you are at the 20 nose bump step. Hope that makes sense and helps, you have most probably progressed since you posted that clip. Thanks for this-finally we have progressed and the handler is getting sorted out. After the above post I got 20 in a row of her moving to the dumbell and mouthing,

Have you done all the initial steps??? Yes-to the letter. She just rarely mouths any toys apart from tugs. She noses kongs etc. Can you video your next session? Well finally I have a video. Any help would be greatly appreciated. She is targetting the dumbell with her nose but not taking it. I now only reward when she touches the bar. Not sure what happened to the post BUT FINALLY Cindy is moving towards the dumbell and mouthing it. She is not holding it yet but the improvemnet is amazing! Thanks everyone for your advice.

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Happy Birthday Bronte! You are a special girl and I enjoyed meeting you in CCD (so did Cindy).

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Have you done all the initial steps??? Yes-to the letter. She just rarely mouths any toys apart from tugs. She noses kongs etc. Can you video your next session? Well finally I have a video. Any help would be greatly appreciated. She is targetting the dumbell with her nose but not taking it. I now only reward when she touches the bar. As other people have said, your timing is an issue :D I would just forget the dumbell for now and just go and shape her doing something very simple...it will help your timing and help her confidence. Can you shape her sitting in a cardboard box??? I have told this many a time to trialling people...just go and shape a trick....learn the mechanics of shaping and you'll find teaching the "tricks" in obedience very easy I'm not sure that all agree with that, but I do :p Everyone just seems in a hurry to teach Obedience exercises but if you work on the basics, then the harder stuff just flows. She shapes great standing on a box. I just have to get it out and she is up no problems. And I just worked out how I taught her that in comparison. Gosh what a nuff nuff handler! Thanks so much everyone.

mmm stronger nose touch-OK more food for thought

Mmm good thought-Cindy does lack drive and I will try this

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:p :D :p ;) You jolly well know Cindy is a smooch! BTW I had to wait ages for her not to be scared of the camera and for daughter to stop laughing Well yeah she is, but I'm serious when I say it's working against you by demotivating her while she's training, you are interrupting the shaping to reach out to pat her and three things happen: 1. She steps back away from you anticipating the head pat. 2. Her tail goes from up and wagging to lower with slower wagging and during the second head pat the tail stops moving. 3. Her ear position changes. They are relaxed and forward most of the time and when she is receiving food from you but it changes when you reach out. I could probably see more if put the video on slow mo. Shaping is hard work for a previously classically conditioned dog, I say give her chance without it, she doesn't need it she's already been reinforced. I put out a personal challenge for you to stop and see what happens b/c I think it's more for your benefit than hers. ;) Yeah yeah I know-but you do know what a nuff nuff she has for a handler. (At least I can breathe during trials these days) I promise to accept the challenge.