Rebanne

I think you mean some of the owners.

Yep

100% agree and people would still bet on the outcome and dogs would still be disposed of if they didn't win and people would still breed trying to find "the one"

I don't deal with drunks so I wouldn't expect my dogs too.

There would have been no where near an extra 538 greyhounds on couches if not for GAP. Some rescue's a truly wicked and not in a good way.

can't be bothered

But there aren't 12,000 homes available every year for one breed no matter how well socialised they are. The way I understood what Kirty is saying is that there should be alot less greyhounds bred in the first place which I totally agree with. You would come up against restriction of trade if you made things too hard. Dogs are goods after all

But there aren't 12,000 homes available every year for one breed no matter how well socialised they are.

I agree with Gruf on both counts. Will also point out that, like other dogs, there have been plenty of laws made that have not been enforced. Enforce those laws they do have and new laws might not be needed. Exactly, except I would like to see the owners of the dogs be made accountable for their lives after racing and ways found to be able to do that. As far as I know it already happens in Vic. But I also agree with Wreckit, why just one breed?

I agree with Gruf on both counts. Will also point out that, like other dogs, there have been plenty of laws made that have not been enforced. Enforce those laws they do have and new laws might not be needed.

Ditto

ask your breeder! Read this I feed my greyhound pups on adult supercoat so they don't grow too quickly.

Educated guess, it's the big trainers, who have many dogs racing each week. The hobby trainer who may race one one or two dogs every couple of weeks aren't. A lot of dogs are trained for a percentage of the win. ETA Horse owners don't make much money either unless they have a pretty good one. They are in the same boat as the dogs, just not quite as easily disposed off.

I hope in the rush to ensure everything looks squeaky clean that dogs that never should be adopted out, aren't.

FFS

yep, not always a quick and easy death. I worked at an RSPCA shelter/pound for 10 years.

No I am not going to sign it. Yet another thing punishing the people doing the right thing. One of my dogs has a great home, found through Gumtree. It is not the advertising sites fault that some people don't do the right thing by their pet and vet the potential new owners properly.

Perhaps they knew he would not be a suitable pet? yes agree. But I badly worded it cause I was at work and couldn't correct it now. It was more save one and take the other out and shoot him when they could have at least taken him to the vet.

My ex racing dog was put into GAP by his owners, they visited us once and told me how my dogs brother had "gone to live on a farm". They had their young daughter with them. There was no farm. Why save one but not the other???

Racing on a track behind a mechanical lure is only 100 or so years old. Greyhounds were bred as hunters, that is their purpose, not racing. Racing is the outlet for their instincts.

All racebred greyhounds have to be DNA tested before breeding.

Ping is lovely and so is the breed. Been watching them at shows for a while now.

:laugh: Thanks Ronin

should not be in the general forum , should at least be in the news, if not the abuse forum

That's the thing, the right greyhound and NO not ALL greyhounds would be good on farms in my experience, sorry. I'm always surprised when people who have never owned or fostered greyhounds put them out there as a suitable breed. My boy is a walking disaster, an accident waiting to happen. No way would he suit riding around on the back of a ute or free range on acreage. Stan has scars all over him from accidents. Tore his shoulder open running across the deck on a screw on the BBQ, stitches. Degloved his shin on the back stairs, fractured his skull chasing a cat at a friends house and hit the fence at full pelt...with his head, millimetres from being killed instantly. My two fall over in the back of the car so hooning around the paddocks with a grey in the back of a ute makes me shudder. Rebanne that's fine that you disagree but after a recent disasterous greyhound rehoming right here that unfolded like a disaster, finding a reputable group to home a dog to this situation is like finding a needle in a haystack IMO. I hope it works out, I really do but I just get a bad feeling...that's all. It doesn't matter what I think anyway as the OP has taken your advice and is moving forward with a greyhound. I disagree with you both. :) On which of those particular points would you disagree? Most of them. As I have posted earlier about my friend and her experiences I am not going to repeat myself. The alert barking is the one I would sort of agree with but as I have one here currently, who is teaching her granddaughter the same, my experience is they can be very good watchdogs. But my girls are not the norm. The boys have been pretty useless in that regard. ETA I would happily sell one of my precious pups to a farm, as long as the people met my criteria. Your one friend and her experiences aren't indicative of the breed though. If we're going on anecdotal evidence, I've had one greyhound surrendered to me from a pet home on a farm because she kept chasing native animals while on walks around the property and they didn't enjoy traipsing around for miles looking for the dog. I have no problems with greyhounds living on farms if the owners are realistic in their expectations but in this case, I don't think the breed is suitable one friend with several of her own greyhounds and many more fosters, plus my own greys on occasions plus the other people I know of and one of my pups that did also spend plenty of time with his owner at their place of employment. Yeah so quite a few greyhounds that have lived very happily and successfully on farms. But it is not for everybody nor for every dog and I didn't say it was. But if it doesn't work out well seems like it will be all my fault cause I dared to recommend my breed based on my experiences. You know all that hooning around in utes and walking them when they can get through the fences etc will get you every time :laugh: so as the hooning is directed at me I read the OP as "out in the ute with the boys" sorry that that rang a few alarm bells for me I have lived out in western NSW and seen dogs on utes with the boys. Your friend is very experienced with greys obviously, this is a first time greyhound owner that has had cattle dogs and bull breeds. I forwarded this to a friend that has rehomed over 100 greys and asked her if she would home a grey here, her reply was probably not. If she did it would be after correct home checks and follow up visits and it would definitely have to be a certain type of dog. Her own grey lives with cats, small dogs and free range chickens but put her in this situation she's be off like a rat up a drain pipe after rabbits, stock you name it. This is my breed as well and I am basing this on my experiences. With respect I may not have 20 years under my belt in racing greys but I'm not a complete numpty either. My friend was a first time greyhound owner once, as we all were, and she managed to keep those early greys safe. She was also told by someone from GAP in NSW that she would have never been allowed a greyhound from them if she had lived in NSW. Luckily for many greys she lives in Victoria. I don't have 20 years of greyhound ownership under my belt either nor am I a numpty. I said a polite I disagree with you both and got jumped on by you both. Over it now. I gave my opinion to the OP with some clues on what to look for re a Greyhound group and I wish them the best of luck.