Rebanne

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-doberman-breeders-fined-40000-for-animal-cruelty-20151216-glot5e.html Dobe breeder found guilty of docking and cropping dogs/pups

So true, my greyhound bitch sounds like one of the hounds from baskerville! Having had 5 GSD's in the past my vote is for a GSD and I never noticed the shedding being too bad.

I've got a groomer friend who works at a vets connected to a pet store in Sydney. Basically one big building divided.

I found reading the breed standard and breeding restrictions interesting. As we have been talking colour in another thread this was what caught my eye: "At present, white (cream: e/e) is a non-accepted coat color for the breed and a disqualifying fault for showing; however, registered white colored Tamaskan Dogs may currently be used for breeding if they really are the best representation from their litter combination. Our aim is to gradually eliminate this coat color over time without unnecessarily narrowing the gene pool in the process. At present, solid black (recessive or dominant black), liver (b/b), piebald (extreme white spotting S/S), and dilute blue (d/d) are non-accepted coat colors for the breed and are disqualifying faults for showing. Tamaskan Dogs of this color may not be used for breeding." As they are farsighted enough to recognise limiting the gene pool can be risky I was then surprised they totally eliminate other colours. They are trying to breed a dog that looks very much like a wolf. Part of their standard requires each dog to have a mask (like a wolf) but wolves come in black so would be interesting to see why that colour can't be used for breeding. I understand the dilutes and white spotting being refused. The website was a very interesting read.

No sorry, I dont. She must really love him to go to all that expense for a pet because I got the impression it cost alot more than it normally would to import a dog. Except for the possible DNA test it wouldn't have cost her any more then any other dog to import. Travel costs, wait times, health test etc can vary a lot depending on which country they are exported from but not because of the breed.

Cream is not listed as a colour option on the Greyhound database. I've seen some very, very pale fawns. As has been said before what colour a dog is registered as may be different to what they actually are. Yep, that's what I'm thinking. Probably lots of incorrect colour namings, given all the things that can change what we see. On the bright side, more accurate and generally knowledgeable on matters relating to colour than the general public. I had a pound contact me to say they had a brown greyhound so I asked for a picture, thinking it very odd that we'd have a dun show up here in a pound but yeah, no. It was a thoroughly black greyhound with some kennel coat *eye roll* As for fawn.. it's usually "tan", "beige" or one time.. "camel". I get the camel colour totally :D

Cream is not listed as a colour option on the Greyhound database. I've seen some very, very pale fawns. As has been said before what colour a dog is registered as may be different to what they actually are.

Oh wow! I didn't know what country those dogs were in. Do you know if this colour is passed down through certain lines? Was it just one puppy in the litter or several with this colour? My understanding is it comes from Irish lines.

Oh wow! They look like little snowstorms! I love the snow flake colour

do judges mouth bulldogs? I'd wait until he is relaxed, maybe a bit sleepy and rub his ears gently. Then expand a bit further down his face. Use treats. Do you have to clean his face folds? That could make him a bit touchy. And ring your breeder and ask them what they recommend. :) I've got greyhounds so very easy to very quickly raise their lips, let go and treat.

Agree with this. First with the GSD's and now with the Greyhounds.

considering that there is usually only one bitch in a pack allowed to reproduce I guess without 24/7 supervision you wouldn't be able to use both for breeding, so this is IMO a very unique scenario. For sure you have a lot of experience with your dogs, nerveless I doubt that the dogs' knowledge about your expectations would prevent them from fighting to sort out the rank if left for some time without supervision. we are talking about dogs not wolves or other wild animals. And often in the wild the underlings do manage to breed; they might get killed for their efforts but they do breed. As for the rest well it's just dribble

I'd amputate as well. Happy tail can be very hard to fix

Thanks for showing this pic Maddy, because it saved me embarassing myself by saying I had never seen a dun in a showbred greyhound. eta and he threw several dun offspring.

Really? No comformation breeder I know breeds for colour. That's the last thing on their mind. *cough* Blue staffords, etc *cough* (Wasn't refering to show greyhound breeders there, if that's what you thought- just show breeders generally. And some do breed for colour) yes that is what I thought as it came straight after a sentence with racing greyhounds in it. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

Really? No comformation breeder I know breeds for colour. That's the last thing on their mind.

:D

Only issue I ever had was with one dog who I got when she was about 4. After the 3rd trip to the vet with one of my other girls the newest one was returned. The returned dog went on the have a great life as an only dog. Otherwise only minor scuffles and an Oi! stops them in their tracks

Just for interests sake I looked in the greyhound data base which has 2,088,136 greyhound pedigrees from all over the world, both race and show bred, and the colour fallow is not one of 60 colour combinations they have to choose from. Several types of dun as in dun, white and dun, etc. Then using sarsparilla's colour page found fallow, which actually looks quite like dun to me. http://colornames.facts.co/fallowcolorcode/fallowcolor.php

Fern is a red, same red as an Irish Setter. Kdf's dog I would have registered as a fawn which can also be called red. There are several different descriptions for fawn/red that are allowable, including a blue fawn. There are fawns, red fawns, reds, blue fawns, fallow ( I have never seen one registered as fallow ). Offically within the ANKC greyhounds colours are COLOUR - Black, white, red, blue, fawn, fallow, brindle or any of these colours broken with white. Lots of breeds call the same colour a different name.

Agree with this. The dictionary definition of dun is a greyish brown. That greyhound in the first photo is not greyish brown. Maybe greyhound people need to rethink their colour descriptors. :) Why? We are not talking about horses. Greyhounds have been around for thousands of years along with the colour dun.

We are not talking horses. In greyhounds this colour is called Dun. In labs it's called chocolate. In GSP's it's called liver.

I have a red greyhound. Totally different colour to dun.

Pretty sure I met this one a few years ago at a dog show. Either that or it was her twin

You really need to take the dog to the vet and tell them he is barely eating. The vet will examine the dog and take it from there and advise you.