Rebanne

all dog breeders? even the puppy farmers? have I missed your answer to my questions? No I did not see your question. If you want to define exactly what you are calling a puppy farmer is then I can answer your question. first question was all dog breeders, are you happy to stand alongside all dog breeders? second question was even the puppy farmers and my definiton of puppy farmer is the type that keep the dogs in runs/cages/paddocks with minimum standards of care, poor quality of food, bred every season, no health testing etc. The types featured on the news occasionally.

I thought it was Mortgage Choice? I could be wrong don't know, I look at the dogs

theres a beagle for some insurance company

all dog breeders? even the puppy farmers? have I missed your answer to my questions?

but you don't really know what she meant unless she is your best buddy and talked about this stuff with you

personally if you allow your dog to be used then I consider you a breeder and the onus is on you to present your dog in the best possible way and any health testing that should be done for your breed, would have been done. That you will only allow your dog to be used over suitable bitches that meet your standard. That you are happy your dog can contribute to the breed in a positive way. I understand what you are saying, but...I have already said that I don't have the knowledge to breed to the standard I want in a dog, choose a suitable stud/bitch or to be sure that offspring would be a positive contribution to the breed. If I were ever to do this (LOL, not likely for a long time since every dog I currently own is sterilised), it would be on the advice & faith in someone who did have this knowledge...not sure if that would make me a breeder or not... In my book it does, even if you go with what your mentor is telling you. It does take two to tango after all I suspect your poll is aimed more at bitch owners though since they do most of the hard yards but owners of stud dogs also have their responsiblities to the breed.

personally if you allow your dog to be used then I consider you a breeder and the onus is on you to present your dog in the best possible way and any health testing that should be done for your breed, would have been done. That you will only allow your dog to be used over suitable bitches that meet your standard. That you are happy your dog can contribute to the breed in a positive way. I am a breeder because I believe the breed needed more people to do so, I am a guardian of the breed, I am doing my best to ensure my breed lives on, fit and healthy. Companion was my 1st reason to get my breed, second was to show, breeding was a long way down the track.

:D You are confused that I hold two different plans of action for 2 different registies, breeds, and breeders? Well I am only following what has been said by the OP about the other breed. Some pretty bad breeders are in the kennel club, so clearly something drastic needs to be done. The Unis and RSPCA have been trying to come up with some plans to protect these breeds and work with the orgnizations that are having these sorts of problems, so that is what I would sugest they follow. 10 point plan and so forth On the second group ISDS, I know this group well and they are very concerned and ethical breeders, working in the best interests of the breed. No one outside the group would have the knowledge and skills with the breed that they have, so it is best to leave them to do what they know how to do best, breed great dogs. Does that help? nope, all I see is a double standard. The breed you know best is above reproach so should never be checked up on, others who aren't up to your standard should be pinned down with even more rules and regulations.

I was told by Lew that if the diet was over 50 % dry food then there was a risk of upsetting the cal/phos balance by adding raw bones. Think I have the percentage right. This was a couple of years ago when I joined her list. I've followed Lew for a few years now but didn't get much feedback at all when I was asking my questions on her list.

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all dog breeders? even the puppy farmers?

yes beautiful healthy dogs I have had that seed of doubt too, makes you 2nd guess everything you have done or didn't do!

This is part of the question.... only following the breeder's insturctions... never had a clumber before... not what I would do for a lab but.... so the labs aren't getting it? The diet is what you are feeding the clumber only?

why the extra calcium? The dry food is balanced plus the bones are full of it.

I've never had any trouble working out the email, it's quite clear

I still think the poor bitch and pups were let down by the people that should have cared better for them.

all the more reason to go for it IMO

just reminding people that entries close this coming Friday and late entries will be returned

this is a good friend of mine with her first showdog. I am so pleased for Di and Tim

sorry but I can't see how that can be legal

Congratulations! :D :laugh: :laugh:

you will be busy!

WooooooooooooooooHoooooooooooooooooo Who is the mum tobe?? Miss Nima Noo :D will be watching with lots of interest

buy him a coat, they are cheap enough on ebay. Fern did chew the neck on hers, her first winter, problem solved by having a turtleneck on them, then she couldn't get a grip on the neck opening. Miller never chewed his.

Congratulations, it's an awesome feeling1