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I think he wants to breed "oodles"

Your original post said you didn't want to breed. To register a pup with ANKC costs the breeder about 50 bucks. No way I'd pay a thousand for papers. What a rip off. I know some breeders do charge extra for potential breeding quality, but remember, unless buying a mature dog, it's only potential. Of course if you pay extra for papers you are often getting a lot of mentoring from the breeder but not $1000 worth.

Thanks for the updates @afterbanns. My girl Phoebe has had a massive outbreak this last week. Being mainly white it's a bit scary to have a blood red dog on her throat, belly, legs. Worst she has ever been. And now smelling yeasty which she has never done. Will most likely end up at the vets and I'm going to try going the Pred route for flare ups. I have never been that comfortable giving her the cytopoint. All my go to remedies have not had a lot of effect until I used colloidal silver gel on her. I am also going to take her off all commercial food and see what difference that makes. Will be a mixture of raw and home cooked. Years and tears ago I fed all raw and slipped away from that as life got busy. But I have time now. Good luck with your boy

I doubt your dog will live for another 5 years. That would make her 18. With Grey and Wolf hound part of her make up then I think she has done very well to get to 13. Dogs are very adjustable. Yes Mollie would miss you initially but will accept her new life. And be happy. You will be the one that will pay a bigger price. Sounds like you don't have a choice to move. If that's what happens then so be it but for your mental health you will need to change your thinking that Mollie got the short straw not being able to move with you. I also think Mollie is not too old to come across after you settle but that will cost big bucks and I assume you will be working full time so less time for Mollie. Mollie is very lucky to have 2 people who love her.

Of course the faster they are the quicker they can get out of the "sweet spot". You know the spot where they are ultra reliable. I'm sure you will know what I am trying to describe. I currently have 3 Greys. None actually trained for recall but one I would think would not recall from chasing, one might but doubtful and I'm pretty sure the 3rd would come back. This is all based on my experience with them with the odd stray cat or escaped pet bunny they have found in my yard. As I would never trust them they don't get the opportunity to be off lead outside our home or a fully fenced area. My boy was 8 when he caught his first trespassing cat. He was raised and lived with cats. It was quite amazing seeing him in "work" mode. My Grey's are not retired racers, but show bred.

and one of the girls has also been found I believe.

I've done both. You can't pre arrange things if you don't have a lot of warning

I have advertised on Gumtree and I know I am not the only one.

For someone who says they don't want to breed you sure are very interested in the whole process.

Yes but is it ethical? If you buy a dog from an ANKC breeder and it's on limited registration you have to ask yourself, and the breeder, why. It may have a fault that makes it not suitable for breeding but no impact on its life as a pet. Who knows what your dog may pass on if bred with another dog. And ignorance is no excuse. I'm in Victoria and the laws are quite strict.

All of mine came back in a carry bag, with a candle and potpourri. The scatter ones had a gift card with the dogs name. I just had a look inside at my one from a few years ago and the ashes have become quite hard . They would not be able to be scattered now. Bit upset they are like that now so if you want to scatter I would recommend sooner rather then later.

The scatter box I got was a very plain one with an easily removed lid. The ashes were in a plastic bag. You just undid the tie and tipped the ashes out. I remember being surprised at how much ash there was for a 34 kilo dog.

I've had a dog use Cytopoint but not Apoquel. Also had a dog on long term pred for a different issue. Personally I'd use pred before most things if using long term. Once under control you can get down to quite a low dose and not have to use every day.

I don't have a problem with it.

as far as I am concerned the only real registers are the ANKC and their world wide equivalent, the racing greyhound registries world wide and, though I know little about them, the working dog registries that also have world wide connections. All others seem to be made up to suit themselves. Anyone can breed any dog they want. Whether they should is another matter entirely. Anyone can buy a dog from wherever they want. If you are looking for a pup to be a part of your family then I suggest you research the breed/s that interest you. Find out what health tests should be done and why. See copies of health tests done on parents, even if the pups are cross breds. Don't believe the "vigor" of cross breds. Most ethical breeders DNA test their dogs nowadays. https://dogsvictoria.org.au/uploads/DV Registers_2018.pdf explains main and limited registers for ANKC dogs If you don't want "strings attached" then you just keep looking for someone who will sell to you.

I'd make another effort to get in touch with the breeder and yes I think a refund of purchase price at least is a given. But not all breeders would think the same. Suggest you look up small claims court and similar but do give the breeder time ( a few days, not weeks ) to respond as who knows what is going on in their life right now. Congenital does not mean heredity so hopefully all other pups are fine. I'm so sorry for your loss

@stan255this is the sort of thing breeders are up against and why they can be reluctant to give out too much information too early.

Which is why Sam was euthed standing up. Forcing him to sit or lay down would have been so distressing for him and me both. He stood as I knew he would, rock solid, and I lowered him as the drug took hold.

I'm so sorry giraffez. I've been there a few times now. About half at home and half at the vet office. Mainly cremation but I do have some buried at home. I actually switched to cremation because the yard was getting a bit full. As the years have passed I find I am ok with moving and leaving the skeletons behind ( no plans to move ). The ones cremated, I have 2 in nice but plain boxes, not on display. They are to go with me when I depart. Others came back in much plainer boxes that could be opened and those ashes have been placed in the back yard as well and one had his ashes spread over the local greyhound track, forever first over the line. One was buried on a friends farm amongst her own dogs. All of mine did peacefully slip away but there was one whose body, mainly legs, kept moving, for some time. It's normal and they are not alive, it's just something that happens. I knew it happened and the vet explained it so it didn't freak me out but it was still a touch unsettling. I'm glad it was not my first one. None of mine had sedation prior and only one had a cannula and that was a Greyhound who didn't sit. He stood up in the centre of my loungeroom. None of my remaining dogs appeared to take much notice that the pack was now one less. Even when that pack was reduced to one. I do know that when I had my last cat put down that the 3 dogs did look for her for a few days. It was very obvious. Big hugs to you

I think you will find most posts saying to see the parents early on are from pet pages. And while it is not bad advice not many breeders allow it. Biosecurity is one reason. Theft of puppies or other dogs are another reason. My last litter I asked to see drivers licences, even of the people interstate. I googled earth their home addresses. Even sending copies of health results can result in those papers being forged and used in scams. The world is not such an innocent place nowadays. I would hate to be a breeder of one of the more popular breeds. Most breeders shed buckets of blood, sweat and tears, not to mention money, over each and every litter. They want the best homes for their pups. They want to like the new owners and have an open relationship. They want to be there.

Yes

You are wrong. Ultrasounds can pick up from around 3 weeks depending on the machine and the user. OP never mentioned they were asked to pay a deposit

Ok. Take a breath. Lots of breeders won't let you visit until picking up the pup. Quarantine does not necessarily mean Covid. More likely to mean parvo. Many dogs are DNA tested for both purity and health issues. Ask if your potential pups parents are and if you can see the results. As for if the pups are actually purebred, well, I don't know where you are reading that but 99.9% are. There might be the odd case, very rare, that they are not and being passed off as pure but really? You can ask to see Mum when getting the pup but Dad might not even live there or even be alive. And just seeing a parent, unless they are obviously sick, you won't be able to tell if they have anything wrong that may have been passed on. Best you talk to your breeder about your thoughts and worries. Trust is a two way street.

Mine didn't.

I think you will just have to suck it up and refund the money on proof of euthanasia. The new owners did do wrong but sounds like you shouldn't have sold the pup either. Mega oesophagus is terribly hard to deal with.