Rebanne

As quite a few of my friends who have bought or bred their Golden retriever/german shepherd/ labrador, etc have learned, clear hip scored parents do not a clear pup guarantee. Same for Patella. The great news is you can blame the breeder, but which breeder? The one who in many cases bought the mum from another, used a top quality male or had one themselves, either way both parents checked and clear. Some who have generations can show you clear vet checks for up to 3 and 4 generations. Today no one accepts responsiblity for bad luck or bad judgement, eg the husky that was shot. As one vet has put on the net. NO one can guarantee faults cannot appear no matter how well the parents, grand parents and even great grand parents passed their vet checks. Even Clear DNA can still have a mutation. How do you think downes syndrome appears? The aging egg can develop a fault and the downes child is born, the fault is now heridatory, Do you really think dna changes only occured in ageing women? 9,999 deletrius and more genes exist, so far there are how many DNA tests for faulty genes? A dozen? If we expect perfection in any new arrival, the bad news is, an awful lot of people are going to be dissapointed. My friends baby has two holes in its heart and awaiting life saving surgery if they dont close themselves while the baby is being stabalised. If that baby was a pup heaven help the person who bred it, in todays climate. Most DNA damage the embroyo doesnt survive, but when it does, who is unethical? The owner of the mother? Or mother nature? Reality is in very short supply today . Excellent answer

I've never given a third puppy vaccination. 8 & 12 weeks here and only a C3.

:laugh: and why would you? You would be blown away with Huddy's 2nd BIS in 2 days! I would be floating on cloud 9 if I was you and wouldn't even be aware if the pink panther came second :laugh: Wonderful achievement by your boy, all at Team Huddy should be very proud of him.

:thumbsup: Team Huddy :thumbsup:

who cares?

cute pic but still no stock

actually while I think this is a great move forward and I see where Troy is going with this, my ads will still most likely just say: litter born on such and such a date, pups may be available, details on website, email me. Happy to include parents but really I only use any ads to direct people to my website.

My GSD's used to sleep outside in a good kennel, no coats, no heated bedding, in minus degrees over winter. They are a double coated breed. I think your main problem is the food.

Ditch the black hawk. You shouldn't have to feed 8 cups a day of any dry food. I feed porridge and/or lamb flaps for weight gain.

I've asked Tralee, on more then one occasion, if he has ever seen these Italian dogs he fawns over in the flesh, but he has never answered. I can only conclude that everything he parrots has come off the internet. Some outlandish claims have been made about the temperament of dogs from UK and USA but again he failed to declare where he learnt such things. I second dog_fans concerns.

regardless no one knows for sure someone let your friends two dogs out and no one knows for sure who started the fight. It's sad one dog has died but that can happen in a dog fight. while I would be most upset if one of my dogs started a fight and killed another I would be less upset if they killed the other dog becuase they had been attacked. They are entitled to defend themselves what ever the size of the attacking dog.

I wouldn't even ask, both dogs and both owners at fault.

Because the person who finds the dog can ring up the owner straight away without needing to go to a vet first to get it scanned. It's more for convenience than anything. I found a BC in my front garden the other day, she had a tag and could call up her owner straight away, other wise it would of been a drive into town to the vet to be scanned. Excactly. Returned many dogs with a simple phone call. But the owners in this case did not answer the phone immediately so there still would have been a delay

How could a tag change anything? When my dogs wore tags it only gad a phone number.

I can no longer access the photo's. Guess I have been blocked.

They haven't blocked me - yet and some Steve person didn't like me very much

that could have been me but there was a couple of others as well

I'd like to know why a neutered dog would be safer?

had them last year as well but they are a special class not one you can get points in are they not?

Neuters aren't catered for at a lot of shows, I have no problem with no neuters at Royals. One day it will come in.

I've had both come into an established house, pup and older dog. One older dog did not work out, a couple more did. All pups worked out. If you want a pup get one. If your current dog is a normal well adjusted dog it shouldn't make a scrap of difference to what you get, as long as the adult rescue is also well adjusted etc.

Nothing but it didn't stop me and now neuter class has helped get my adult daughter involved.

any way, back on topic, yes the prize for a neuter in group/show win should be the same as any other class in group/show if all classes are getting prizes. The shows we have done in SA only baby puppy, puppy ( think it was only those two )and of course BIG and RUBIG got prizes. All got ribbons. All in show classes got something as I recall. In NSW so far we have got something each time, most shows exactly the same as other classes. A couple of Neuter in Shows were not. In Vic, same as other classes in group. Have not won a Neuter in Show in Vic yet but from what I have seen the prize was the same as the other classes in show.

Plenty of titles to work towards on the other end of their names. Or change the rules and allow juniors to show any dog entered OR a neutered CH. Bit hard for my daughter to put a title on the end of the dogs names when they live 4 hours apart And I don't get what you are on about either re junior handlers :confused:

My neuter, who is not easy to show, has taught my adult daughter a lot. My neuter is the first dog they have ever exhibited.