Rebanne

I often still go in there to find out about a breed that is new to me, particularly if I meet one at a dog event. Yeah I like the breeds 101 section as well.

I'm interesting in this statement - probably a bit off topic. I know the idea of being a registered breeders is to continue and better the breed. If you have a recessive colour that is not considered a fault in the dog and you don't have breeders with an interest in keeping that specific colour in the gene pool then don't you risk making that colour practically extinct and therefore wouldn't that be detrimental to the breed? Just a quick example, you can see my Liver Roan cocker spaniel below. Liver Roan while acceptable in the breed standard is rarely found in the show circuit these days. The Cocker Spaniel Club of Victoria website doesn't even include liver in their list of cocker spaniel colours. If there aren't any breeders with an interest to continue the colour then it will likely end up being a rare throw back colour that is considered a fault. My favourite colour in my breed is parti colour, white with patches. Whilst it is very unlikely to ever die out, as it is so common, I do breed for the breed first, colour is very much down the line. Colour, is often cosmetic, no real purpose, in a large amount of breeds. Colour can come with problems as well. In your scenario I can't see how it would be detrimental to the breed but it would be sad to lose a colour and you are right that sometime down the track that it could become a fault. It has happened in other breeds that some colours that were in the breed orginally have now become a fault and some breeders have been fighting hard to get that changed. It is very sad that the Cocker Spaniel club web site doesn't include a recognised colour. Maybe you should point that put to them politely? ETA, the standard says Colours: Various. In self colours no white allowed except on chest. The club site just shows photo's of different colours, maybe they have none of livers or liver roans and might like a photo of your dog to round out their page?

If you are going to go around saying something is the law when it is not it might pay to actually find out if it's true or not before posting.

of the several puppies I have bought home over the years ranging in age from 4 weeks to 12 weeks the 2 that came home at 8 weeks were the worst two. The 2nd of those two was PTS at 20 months. No amount of socialisation was ever going to fix her. It was all in the genes. Temperament is everything as far as I am concerned, if it ain't there it ain't there and no amount of parading the puppy all over town is going to fix it. Might give the pup some coping mechanisms to deal with life but the base line temperament is still there. I basically agree with lovemesideways but as my requirements for my dogs are different to hers, age is not a factor in my decisions.

I am going to be the hard head and say I would PTS Daisy Mae. She is going to be in pain, both mental and physical, for the rest of her life. How fair is that? Give her some peace now.

I'm not sure where you're coming from but it sounds like a really crappy space. Thanks, everyone, for your replies - especially to dancinbcs. You've given me a lot to think about :) You have a very, very long way to go if you really want to be an ethical breeder, a very long way. So far you are sounding like a BYB who is only interested in breeding for colour.

I honestly don't know. I would have thought it was a fault on a fawn Pug, and I have no idea how you're supposed to tell the difference between a smutty fawn and a true silver. I suggest you join your breed club, oversea's clubs, pages on FB etc and start studying all you can find. Starting with the standard.

Me too. Though I've heard that martingale collars are better than flat collars for Pugs because they apply an even pressure around the whole of the neck and not just at the front where the trachea is. eta I mean for training. My Pug wears a harness. Martingales still put pressure on the front of the neck, they still have a limited choke. They are very useful for dogs whose necks are bigger then their heads though.

Honestly in over 30 years of owning multiple dogs I have never had any trouble with them bonding to me. I've trailled dogs in obedience, agility and conformation shows. All my dogs have known how to be inside or out, on their own or with others. Put the work in, get the results.

rescue remedy for yourself maybe Flashsmum?

Lots of dogs stand their and lick your face or hand and wag their tail while they are PTS. Go to any pound in the country and you'll see plenty of dogs killed, young healthy ones, it's not just greyhounds. And if they are going to die anyway, then take their blood to help others live. They are anaesthetised, they feel nothing. Not an easy job for anyone involved with wholesale killing of unwanted healthy dogs, regardless of breed.

I bought my dogs a new bowl from the Sydney Royal in 2012, put it in the same spot as the old one. They didn't like it and rarely drank from it. I had another dog visit who was getting on in years and I lifted the bowl up for him to drink from. Wow, all of a sudden my 2 decided they too could drink from it. Dogs are funny creatures and often people never have any idea what is going around in the head

A greyhound fairly new to a home can shed heaps! I would never consider a greyhound low shedding at the best of times. (as I look around at my loungeroom) And whose to say it's the actual dog? What it's fed, where it has slept etc could have a bearing as well. There is only one way to tell if you Dad will react to any one dog and that is spend some time getting up close and personal with it.

Personally I'd leave it alone. It looks like it's only discolouration. Tooth surface looks smooth. Sometimes antibiotics can cause developing teeth to be discoloured though it would be strange for only the one.

cause it started innocently enough, one day Hank was bored or something, you responded, Hank liked it, tired it again and before you know it you have a behaviour. :D LOL! That makes perfect sense. Here I was trying too hard to read into it. I thought maybe he felt bad because every morning he gets a delicious bone while I only have a cup of tea in my hand, he then took great pity on me and started insisting that we share his bone to be polite........ :laugh: except he didn't share, he rubbed it into your face he had the bone and you, poor human, had nothing :laugh: aren't puppies fun :D

cause it started innocently enough, one day Hank was bored or something, you responded, Hank liked it, tired it again and before you know it you have a behaviour. :D

to me this is totally different and I think might be a slight case of anxiety.

He's trained you very well hasn't he :D Just put him outside and leave him to it. If he whines to come in too bad, ignore him. Or if you must let him in, then the bone gets put away for another day. Hank is controlling what is happening not you.

I never had a problem when I had only female German Shepherds.

what do you mean make it last longer? It reads like you are trying to cut down on costs already, are you sure you can afford to adopt this dog? You can't make food last longer, you feed what you need to feed to keep the dog healthy. You can feed a different dry food if you want but you still need to feed an appropriate amount.

Glad all went well with Harry. Fingers crossed his recovery is smooth for you both :)

Nothing special, they may get a big bone, but my dogs are able to be left alone, for hours, if needed.

if this was my dog I would move heaven and hell to get her back. No if, buts or maybe's. The rightful owner has turned up, it was not their fault the dog was in the pound system long enough to be put up for adoption, it is not the pounds fault nor the new owners. But that dog is mine and I would be getting her back no matter how nasty it got. Years ago I did ask the question about what would happen if a dog was adopted out and then the owners turned up. The answer was the dog would have to go back and we were instructed to tell all new adopters if the original owner turned up within a certain time frame ( which I forget ) then they would have to hand the dog back. In fact it was on the paperwork they signed that they would give the dog back.

You have judged the owner and found her guilty, it is written in all your posts how it is her fault. Do you not think she is kicking herself right now. How do you know that the person she has trusted has done this job for her several times in the past, with no problems? How about the trusted person got ill and they trusted someone else? How about the owner was a twit and trusted someone she shouldn't and now because of misplaced trust she deserves to lose her dog? What would the dog choose????