Rebanne

if you haven't gotten responses, try posting in General. Few people read "Breeders" these days. it was on FB and has been resolved.

I haven't done one but yes I would expect to pay 2 full stud fees but would discuss what if's with both stud dog owners. I wouldn't want more puppies. Perfect scenario would be both studs producing 3 or 4 pups each. So maxium of 6 to 8 pups would be nice. Would give me enough to pick a pup from each sire to carry one with and only a few to find homes for. Two seperate breedings may give me more to choose from but also more to find homes for. It is not easy finding good homes for greyhound pups that don't want them for free. Economics doesn't really come into it. If I want my breed to survive I need to breed and ignore costs. Same as if I imported a dog. It would cost me $15000 min. and most likely be used 2 or 3 times. They are not like a lab or whippet where you can stud them out to help recoup costs. Import a bitch will cost the same and you may get a handful of pups to sell.

Honestly this Greyhound Rescue mob is full of wankers.

sorry to read this Lhok, hope it's more positive once the test come back in.

I know of some that have had both sires successful, but it's a gamble.

not my actual bitch but bitches I have bred. One was over 2 before her first, the other is now 2 years and 5 months and causing her owner to tear out her hair! Not uncommon in my breed. But rarely before 16 months.

depends on your breed and ease of homing. In my breed dual sire litters are fantastic, if you can get pups from both sires.

Yay!

I know what I would do but I am not you. Sorry you are going through this. I am a big believer in quality over quantity. You will do what is right for your boy.

I often still go in there to find out about a breed that is new to me, particularly if I meet one at a dog event. Yeah I like the breeds 101 section as well.

I'm interesting in this statement - probably a bit off topic. I know the idea of being a registered breeders is to continue and better the breed. If you have a recessive colour that is not considered a fault in the dog and you don't have breeders with an interest in keeping that specific colour in the gene pool then don't you risk making that colour practically extinct and therefore wouldn't that be detrimental to the breed? Just a quick example, you can see my Liver Roan cocker spaniel below. Liver Roan while acceptable in the breed standard is rarely found in the show circuit these days. The Cocker Spaniel Club of Victoria website doesn't even include liver in their list of cocker spaniel colours. If there aren't any breeders with an interest to continue the colour then it will likely end up being a rare throw back colour that is considered a fault. My favourite colour in my breed is parti colour, white with patches. Whilst it is very unlikely to ever die out, as it is so common, I do breed for the breed first, colour is very much down the line. Colour, is often cosmetic, no real purpose, in a large amount of breeds. Colour can come with problems as well. In your scenario I can't see how it would be detrimental to the breed but it would be sad to lose a colour and you are right that sometime down the track that it could become a fault. It has happened in other breeds that some colours that were in the breed orginally have now become a fault and some breeders have been fighting hard to get that changed. It is very sad that the Cocker Spaniel club web site doesn't include a recognised colour. Maybe you should point that put to them politely? ETA, the standard says Colours: Various. In self colours no white allowed except on chest. The club site just shows photo's of different colours, maybe they have none of livers or liver roans and might like a photo of your dog to round out their page?

If you are going to go around saying something is the law when it is not it might pay to actually find out if it's true or not before posting.

of the several puppies I have bought home over the years ranging in age from 4 weeks to 12 weeks the 2 that came home at 8 weeks were the worst two. The 2nd of those two was PTS at 20 months. No amount of socialisation was ever going to fix her. It was all in the genes. Temperament is everything as far as I am concerned, if it ain't there it ain't there and no amount of parading the puppy all over town is going to fix it. Might give the pup some coping mechanisms to deal with life but the base line temperament is still there. I basically agree with lovemesideways but as my requirements for my dogs are different to hers, age is not a factor in my decisions.

I am going to be the hard head and say I would PTS Daisy Mae. She is going to be in pain, both mental and physical, for the rest of her life. How fair is that? Give her some peace now.

I'm not sure where you're coming from but it sounds like a really crappy space. Thanks, everyone, for your replies - especially to dancinbcs. You've given me a lot to think about :) You have a very, very long way to go if you really want to be an ethical breeder, a very long way. So far you are sounding like a BYB who is only interested in breeding for colour.

I honestly don't know. I would have thought it was a fault on a fawn Pug, and I have no idea how you're supposed to tell the difference between a smutty fawn and a true silver. I suggest you join your breed club, oversea's clubs, pages on FB etc and start studying all you can find. Starting with the standard.

Me too. Though I've heard that martingale collars are better than flat collars for Pugs because they apply an even pressure around the whole of the neck and not just at the front where the trachea is. eta I mean for training. My Pug wears a harness. Martingales still put pressure on the front of the neck, they still have a limited choke. They are very useful for dogs whose necks are bigger then their heads though.

Honestly in over 30 years of owning multiple dogs I have never had any trouble with them bonding to me. I've trailled dogs in obedience, agility and conformation shows. All my dogs have known how to be inside or out, on their own or with others. Put the work in, get the results.

rescue remedy for yourself maybe Flashsmum?

Lots of dogs stand their and lick your face or hand and wag their tail while they are PTS. Go to any pound in the country and you'll see plenty of dogs killed, young healthy ones, it's not just greyhounds. And if they are going to die anyway, then take their blood to help others live. They are anaesthetised, they feel nothing. Not an easy job for anyone involved with wholesale killing of unwanted healthy dogs, regardless of breed.

I bought my dogs a new bowl from the Sydney Royal in 2012, put it in the same spot as the old one. They didn't like it and rarely drank from it. I had another dog visit who was getting on in years and I lifted the bowl up for him to drink from. Wow, all of a sudden my 2 decided they too could drink from it. Dogs are funny creatures and often people never have any idea what is going around in the head

A greyhound fairly new to a home can shed heaps! I would never consider a greyhound low shedding at the best of times. (as I look around at my loungeroom) And whose to say it's the actual dog? What it's fed, where it has slept etc could have a bearing as well. There is only one way to tell if you Dad will react to any one dog and that is spend some time getting up close and personal with it.

Personally I'd leave it alone. It looks like it's only discolouration. Tooth surface looks smooth. Sometimes antibiotics can cause developing teeth to be discoloured though it would be strange for only the one.

cause it started innocently enough, one day Hank was bored or something, you responded, Hank liked it, tired it again and before you know it you have a behaviour. :D LOL! That makes perfect sense. Here I was trying too hard to read into it. I thought maybe he felt bad because every morning he gets a delicious bone while I only have a cup of tea in my hand, he then took great pity on me and started insisting that we share his bone to be polite........ :laugh: except he didn't share, he rubbed it into your face he had the bone and you, poor human, had nothing :laugh: aren't puppies fun :D