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Who says she has all problems? but i plan on buying a puppy i think save me all the hassles Hi Tinkerbell - From what you have said about just wanting another puppy, I think that's the smartest decision. I know you are very attached to your dog (baby! ), and things can - and do- go wrong in pregnancy and in whelping. Its a calculated risk that breeders take, hoping for the best and planning for the worst - but at the end of the day, you must also be prepared for the unthinkable to happen, and lose the entire litter and bitch too. No one thinks it will happen to them, but it does, esp if there are complications during the whelping (eg dead pup stuck inside, infections etc). good luck with looking for a puppy - its always lots of fun! - talk to lots of breeders before you decide (& you know what questions to ask!!) Thanks for all messages and advise to every one. i have been thinking about this today and have decided to put my name down on a waiting list and ask lots of questions about their breeding program and lines and if there are any faults or issues etc and talk a lot with the breeder and get them to help me learn a lot before i purchase another puppy and make sure there is no heritable problems or skin problems etc so thanks for all the help

Who says she has all problems? but i plan on buying a puppy i think save me all the hassles

let someone else do the work, and the cleaning Yes that is a good idea plus i don't want her hurt! but this properly won't happen for 2 years so far so its far off my mind as far as that is concerned just don't want to de sex her just yet!

What do you mean by being registered with the CCCQ? You have to be registered with the CCCQ as a breeder which you said above you haven't done yet. i said i am a member of the CCCQ not a Registered Breeder that is what i said and i have thought about showing her and meeting some ethical breeders there! but have been told i need to apply for a prefex if i plan to breed

yup completely. I have worked in the dog training and veterinary industry for quite a few years I'm also a qualified biochemist and geneticist. I know what they do for their 'veterinary' degree and many many vets do not consider diet as an allergy causing agent. He probably also thinks its a great idea to breed her does he want a pup too or does he own the prospective father? My Vet doesn't have the Father or want a pup from her Thanks.. that is a huge insult.. like i said i don't know yet if i will breed her but have thought about it! but that on hand i don't want to hurt her at all and i may just buy another puppy i don't know yet have thought it out seriously yet cause that is off for at least 2 years so why worry yet? and why de sex her if i do choose 2 years on to mate her? i can't un de sex her can i?

yup completely. I have worked in the dog training and veterinary industry for quite a few years I'm also a qualified biochemist and geneticist. I know what they do for their 'veterinary' degree and many many vets do not consider diet as an allergy causing agent. He probably also thinks its a great idea to breed her does he want a pup too or does he own the prospective father? you say you are these things but if you are good on you.. but is till trust my Vet he has been good for me and tinkerbell

That is a good Idea! that way i don't have to hurt her either thank you

Yes i understand that but i wrote everything down what i fed her and gave it to him and he said it was fine so i presumed it was but since changed her diet so that is good

The Breeder i am in Contact with has said she has good lines and vary few faults but she would be suited to breed with but i don't know just Yet i want a pup but i don't want to hurt her Also i am registered with the CCCQ i said she was a BYB cause she is she has litter upon litter every couple of months and send the pups to the owners from 3 or 5 weeks and is registered and unethical BYB that is what i say and there is no hole you can think what you will.

Thank you for all your Advise it is Very Helpful. i have recently got in contact with a registered breeder near me that has given me advise. i am registered with the CCCQ And if i plan to in the Future breed her i might register to be come a breeder as well but that is a future thing. the breeder has basically told me everything you have told me. the risk of pregnancy and cost of C section if that is required and cost to the stud dog and how to care for the pups etc and all the relevant tests etc but it is good to see someone has the same advise to a breeder i am in contact with so thank you for all the advise she was bought first and foremost to be my best friend and baby but i said i don't know if i will breed her just yet i am getting advise first i don't really want to hurt my baby

Somehow doesnt look like any papers or quality lines here. WRONG SHE HAS PAPERS but i got her at 5 weeks cause she got milk fever and didn't want the hassle anymore so i took her and she sent me the papers once the littler was registered.

because we dont support puppy farmers and backyard breeders here. This is a forum about education not about you deciding its YOUR dog and you want a litter because its cute. You have an unregistered dog, and you want our help yet you dont understand the ethics of the people who give you advice. I knew you wanted a litter from her from your first post it just took this long for you to spill the beans - we're not stupid and dont treat us as such. Its like if I put a $1000 on the other side of a 6 foot fence .... now you have a reason to scale it and get it ... its not rocket science. your vet has no clue frankly taking any of his advice is rediculous. If he thinks the diet you are feeding her on was fine he needs to rethink his veterinary degree. First of all i said i don't know if i will breed her i have chosen yet now have i? i said if i chose to it will be one litter so i can keep a pup my self and de sex her it is Just like that OK? Nor am i a Puppy Farmer or a Back Yard Breeder now am i? nor will i ever be! i Asked for Advise on her Diet and Training and the De Sexing was Shoved down my Throat i never asked for that Advise but like i said i am undecided what i will do just Yet. I took the Advise Under consideration and i don't know just yet now do i? or i would be saying Yep 100% i am going to breed her over and over to make $$$$$ that is a puppy farmer and back yard breeder, Don't even suggest we are the same. I never said you we're all stupid or treated u as such like i said i wanted advise on diet and training etc not about de sexing on my dog but you try to shove this down my throat from day 1 .. like i said its my choice that i still don't know about just yet now do i? And i just got one bit of advise for you! i said her breeder was a BYB she is and a unethical registered breeder and my Pup has papers too thank you so for your information she is a registered pup!! So what are you going to say now? And if you think you knew i planned to mate her from my first Post .. WOW you must be amazing cause even i don't know what i am doing just yet now do i? but if you can see the future you should go into Business lol if the DOG so called would scale the fence that hasn't in the 7 years i have been here .. how are they going to break down or through my glass door? they can't! and like i said she is with us all the time when we go out side never mroe then 3 steps away.. and i am always mindful of her in the yard alone so i am always with her etc My Vet said her diet was fine! and nothing to do with what i was feeding her , and asked everything i was feeding her again and told me her diet was fine before but i told him the diet has helped some so he said well keep it to that then but still says it to do with Hormonal changes and Air Borne Problems such as plants we have etc I took Advise to change Diet and Training ethics but really i wanted some advised not to be grilled at all, but you are not being very helpful now are you. no wonder some people are wary of joining this site if this is the treatment they get. So are you saying my Vet that has Worked there 22 years is a complete fool? i would like to see what 'degree' you have and true advise to others etc But thank you to the real people that helped me .. you know who you are AND IN CASE YOU CAN'T READ SHE IS PEDIGREED AND PAPERED BUY A UNETHICAL BREEDER AND YES I SAID I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL BREED HER AT THIS STAGE BUT I WOULDN'T MIND GETTING A PUP OUT OF HER BUT I DON'T KNOW JUST YET OKAY?

Your dog was not in full season yet. 6 foot fencing is nothing, every pound in australia has dogs that are there because they scale fences bigger then that. You have too much faith in the safety of your yard. As for your plans I hope that doesnt include one cute little litter of puppies before you have her desexed. I dont buy the 'waiting' game unless you have good reasons and frankly my gut says your tempted for her to have pups. You can have her desexed and leave one ovary in. No chance of pregnancy but she still has some hormones. well The Whole 7 years we have been here in our 6 foot Fence , we haven't had one dog scale the Fence and now that she is in season you would think this would happen now right? But have had nothing Happen Like that at all. Plus either my Husband and i always with her. Plus if they did scale the Yard they would not be getting in side from the back or front door since we have a glass sliding door and when ever she goes out we go with her so she is watched etc So Thanks for your Concern but we are Quiet Fit to LOOK after her and have since she was a baby And if you read above i was talking to my vet and told him about the change of diet etc But he told me he still doesn't believe it was her Diet as that was Fine he thinks it something more Hormonal or Air Borne with the plants etc And also Said i should wait to de sex her and i said i was plan on doing it at 3 years and why do i need to tell you what my plans are with MY dog? i said i don't know if i will breed her and if i do well then so be it if not she will be de sexed Its Our Choice and Plus there are other Reasons but i do not feel the need to have to Explain and Justify myself to you.

well you better keep her in a better confined area. Unless your backyard is a fully enclosed chain mesh run, the more seasons she has and trotters that lovely bitch in heat smell all over your front yard is a calling card for roaming entire dogs. Unless your bitch in heat is in a crate in the house or attached to you on a leash she is not 'safe'. If you're not going to breed you should be desexing instead of driving your male crazy every 6 months as well - interesting how you didnt have an issue desexing the male. The dog has skin and coat issues from the diet, thats blatantly obvious and again the vets didnt even look at diet as being the cause. Desexing wont really make that much of a difference to the diet but keep your girl safe from pregnancy or attracting random entire males to your property. Just hope a rather large breed male doesnt get into your yard. Well for Starters The Male is De Sexed as he is a older dog and really Belongs to MIL but we look after him a lot etc i Don't know when i will de sex her Maybe when she is like 3 years old etc but really that is my concern why take away her ovaries cause you all have issue's with it? and i don't know if i will Breed her Yet, But the Thing is i know the Risks/ Concerns about not De Sexing her etc But My Vet Advised not getting her done Just yet and i told him My Plans so he is happy with that Every time we go for walks she is on the lead etc (of course not while in season) and at night she is in a crate As far as Fencing goes we have a 6 foot secure fencing around the Front and Back of the Yard and no one can get in unless they are let in etc We have had Strays come here before she was in season and even then they couldn't get in And My dog Runs the House all day and goes to the Backyard when she is needing to go to the Toilet etc and crated at night And there is always someone Home that be either myself or My Husband etc and she is always with us when not going to the Toilet or Eating and she hasn't scratched once today since the change of diet so all is going well so far Take Care TinkerBell

I understand Every 1's Concerns with the De Sexing Issue But i have read all the Conerns/ risks pertaining with not De Sexing her etc But my Decision is still the same i will De Sex her When she Gets older I care Very Much about my Dog but i will de sex her when she gets older and i have also talked with the Vet and they have told me what to do etc so all is good