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Oh the sweet old thing. Lovely outcome.

Leash only introductions. Teach a very very solid sit, and practice it in many locations so she generalises it. When she approaches people, ask her to sit. If she sits - they pat her. If she jumps up or doesn't sit, leash correction. You can make it very clear to her in a binary fashion that jumping up = not great, sitting = awesome.

I still maintain that if it's done right it will be a good thing for dogs and the community in NSW. I just wish there was a training requirement as well. I have two different dogs at the moment that this category would be perfect for. Dangerous Dog is overkill based on the incidents but that is really my only option if I want some controls on the dogs (which I do, and they need). These owners are probably going to cop dangerous dog, but if this had passed already I'd be going the menacing route, and they wouldn't have to spend $3000+ on the enclosure (or put their dog to sleep, as many people opt to do when they see the enclosure requirements).

Not if they use it in conjunction with a 1.8 (?) metre fence. Edit: Correction... 1.5m and it has to be a pingg string or similar device. From the NSW Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act (POCTAA) Very handy to know!!! Thank you. No worries! Luckily there's an exception.. it's insanity to ban them and other types of e-collars outright!

Not if they use it in conjunction with a 1.8 (?) metre fence. Edit: Correction... 1.5m and it has to be a pingg string or similar device. From the NSW Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act (POCTAA)

Freezing for 10 days prior to feeding solves this problem. Human-grade food is NOT exempt from hydatids so better safe that sorry! ETA: Lasareina all-in-ones don't cover hydatids and honestly, I'd be having a close look at them, they're serious overkill for the vast majority of dogs and really not required. Thanks for that Sandra, good to know as one of the things that has put me off feeding offal (and therefore going raw) is not wanting to worm her 6 weekly (and also not wanting to put us at risk of Hydadid!)

AMRRIC do such a great job. Fantastic outcome.

I'm looking in to raw feeding at the moment. Question for the raw feeders - if you're feeding organ meat do you worm every 6 weeks to cover hydatid tapeworms?

:laugh: Absolutely brilliant.

Exactly. There is plenty of legislation, but until councils step up to the plate and regulate and enforce them, we will still be having this conversation in 50 years time. AND- I will say it again- it's up to the general public to report instances. The council don't know unless we inform them. In my situation, after my dog was attacked, I asked around the local dog park (which many dog walkers would have to walk past the roaming dog to get to) if anyone else had had any issues with the Dally. I was unsurprised to discover yes, several other dogs had been bitten by it. Had any of the owners reported it? Nope. It's the old "someone else's problem", which then means the council never finds out. My council was very supportive when I contacted them, but still had to rely on my constant reporting to actually fine the owner & subsequently slap a nuisance order on the dog. Following that, the guy still insisted on sneakily let the dog off, so every time I saw it, I reported it & he got fined. (Much to his disgust- he tried to intimidate me too, but I'm a lot tougher than I look.) It took about a year, but t's been a while now since I've seen the dog unleashed. So we can't blame the councils if we don't report these dogs. And if at first you don't see much action, keep reporting & keep records that tou can email the mayor if you still get no joy. Squeaky wheels & all that. This. Council officers can't be everywhere at once and are very unlikely to know about a problem dog unless residents report it. Last time we were rushed by a small off leash dog on a busy road, who's owner refused to leash it when I told him to, I reported it and the Council went out not too long after and he was still there with the dog off leash. They didn't fine him to my disgust but he at least got a talking to by someone in uniform and knows that he won't necessarily get away with it again in the future.

Up to the Council's discretion once they've concluded the investigation. Ill bite - why is it up to the council's discretion ? It's always up to the individual Council's discretion what action to take following a dog attack or any breach of the Act. One Council would fine this woman, another Council would decide that losing her finger is punishment enough and warn her. You'll get a different response to the same attack depending on where it happened. Some will declare the dog dangerous, others will declare it a nuisance, others will issue a Court Attendance Notice and go for a Control Order instead.

Up to the Council's discretion once they've concluded the investigation.

That is great news.. It is... I know the girls at the pound well and they said he's a really lovely dog.

The Companion Animal Liason Officer at this Council is well trained in dog behaviour (used to work as a behaviourist) and has her head screwed on very well. She may not be the one managing the case and making the final decision but I have faith that if she isn't she will discuss all the things you mention Persephone with the person who is. Hopefully that will ensure that the outcome is appropriate given the fact that by all reports the BT was not the attacking dog. The dog has been released back to his owner yesterday so lets hope justice prevails.

The breed is inside info but the story posted clearly states that the JRT was off leash running around. Kelpiecuddles The breed was not Staffy or AmStaff - if you have seen that on the news it was stock footage. The dog was a Bull Terrier. How can anyone jump to the conclusion that the dog is outright DA? Many dogs of many breeds would react to an off leash dog rushing it while on leash - many DOLers dogs would judging by the posts on here. Why should the dog be muzzled if it is leashed in public? The only way an incident would occur is by someone else breaking the law and allowing their off leash dog to rush the dog.

I read this on the police website and was horrified. Very worrying that this dog hasn't been caught. And I'm just about to post a story in the News forum, a Pitbull that was attacking a Jack Russell has bitten the finger off the JRT's owner as she was trying to rescue her dog. Pitbull's owner was 80 yrs old .... Sick to death of reading about dog attacks. Yes I am too I saw the girl last night on the news that lost her finger trying to protect her JR, Christ what's going on. Her dog was off leash and rushed an on leash dog (that was a bull terrier, not a pit bull). She is the kind of problem owners that are being lamented in this thread - yet the leashed dog is blamed. I expect it from the media but I expected better from a dog forum that has a thread every second day complaining about users being rushed by off leash dogs.

The dog was NOT a Pit Bull - it was a Bull Terrier. Hasn't stopped the media from screaming pit bull from the rooftops though. The Bull Terrier was leashed and rushed by an off leash dog - the Jack Russell Terrier is the dog at fault here. It's very sad that the woman has lost the tip of her finger but if she had her dog leashed or at least under effective voice control while off leash this would have never happened. Of course the media has spun it that the LEASHED dog is the attacker - but I would have expected someone on a dog forum that constantly complains about being rushed by off leash dogs to recognize who is at fault here. ETA: the Bully is an absolutely lovely dog by all accounts from pound workers and was released to his owner today.

This always happens, everywhere BSL is implemented. Visual breed ID is inaccurate, and doesn't hold up well in court. The Gov went head first anyway.

Must have been a tiny back yard as I would not call a Staffy a big dog. Shame the facts on how it lived don't come out until a month later, if ever. Hope the guy recovers quickly. In this previous report the man described the dog as being 80kg. I'm sure it wasn't actually 80kg but it would have to have been a pretty big dog to be perceived to be that size. Certainly not a Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

This follow up article gives a little more insight in to the way the dog was kept. Unsurprisingly, the dog was a 'resident' dog as opposed to a family dog, which is one of the biggest and most common factors in serious and fatal dog attacks. "Dog put down after savage attack in Como" Terrible that a man that relies on his hands so much will take another two years to recover fully.

Just heard on the radio that they've had to end the trial due to a number of serious dog attacks. Sigh.

You did the right thing in reporting it. Take photographs of the injury and go to the doctor and get a report. The Council will need that.

Why is there a six page thread on this just putting forward lots of opinions with no actual data to back them up, when we already have a successful model of animal management in existence that dramatically reduces dog attacks in the community? Hint - the system does not focus on breeds, or breeding. Team Dog - the Solution

Just spent a weekend at a seminar from Kris (Von Forell) and seeing his understanding of breeding and training, and a bunch of amazing examples he has bred... if I wanted a working Shepherd he'd be the one I'd be going for.

Terrible, and unacceptable. The media didn't report the herding mix that hospitalized an elderly lady walking past it's property that I investigated recently.