Peibe_Baby

Thanks for that... I should have stated it was more of a hypathetical question. I know Simba won't be re-producing. I asked the question in my bid to simply 'learn' about genetics.

Thanks so much for your concern and support BadBoyz – I have heard so many great things about you! May I ask, what is your real name? Just so I know who I’m talking to.. Ok so you’re saying it’s ok to get another male Pei after I’ve desexed Simba? Something on my consideration list (IF I choose to Breed one day) And it’s 8 months I have to wait you say? My Vet told me from 6 Months, and Pandii in the forum told me 8 weeks!!! Can I ask you, do ALL Pei’s carry the Entropian Gene?? For example, if I were to buy a good quality male and do things by the book, have him registered etc, am I guaranteed his litters won’t have the same eye condition provided ‘mum’ is of same quality?? Someone once told me that despite the parents been A1 quality, you always run the risk.. because this condition is something that’s hereditary within the breed itself – not sure as to how true this is. Thank you so much for your time, you’re very inspiring and I look forward to chatting with you on a regular basis! I am constantly in the ‘Shar Pei Thread’ Also, in relation to the passing of the eye condition - does it mean that if Simba re-produces he will be guranteed to have a litter with the same problem?

Thanks so much for your concern and support BadBoyz – I have heard so many great things about you! May I ask, what is your real name? Just so I know who I’m talking to.. Ok so you’re saying it’s ok to get another male Pei after I’ve desexed Simba? Something on my consideration list (IF I choose to Breed one day) And it’s 8 months I have to wait you say? My Vet told me from 6 Months, and Pandii in the forum told me 8 weeks!!! Can I ask you, do ALL Pei’s carry the Entropian Gene?? For example, if I were to buy a good quality male and do things by the book, have him registered etc, am I guaranteed his litters won’t have the same eye condition provided ‘mum’ is of same quality?? Someone once told me that despite the parents been A1 quality, you always run the risk.. because this condition is something that’s hereditary within the breed itself – not sure as to how true this is. Thank you so much for your time, you’re very inspiring and I look forward to chatting with you on a regular basis! I am constantly in the ‘Shar Pei Thread’

Even still... it's so immature isn't it?? Typical macho behaviour...

Thanks Gretel

It’s certainly not your place to judge my fiancé Pandii. He isn’t the one here seeking guidance – I am. We have gone off topic here anyway. I am trying my damn best to do what’s right here, but feel like i’m getting kicked while i’m down. I am considering joining another forum because I don’t feel I’m getting anything other than criticism here. Thanks to those of you kind enough to offer me some guidance in relation to his Entropian. To those of you more worried about my Pei re-producing, I won’t be using him for breeding for the millionth time...

I agree, in fact i recommended they take all their sharpei (particularly their remaining pups) to my vet, which they informed me that they did today! And the other 2 pups are also booked in for eye tacking at the same time as my Simba which is great news. They will be paying for the three of them to get done. Oh that's sad.. I am more attached to animals, in particular dogs, than I am to children!! Some people think im strange.. I would have loved to have become a Vet or help in some way with animals.. Tell me more about what you do.. do people hand over their unwanted pets or do you find them on the streets..?? Pei come from everywhere They are given to me by people who do not want them anymore, but mainly they come from being left in pounds where their owners do not go to get them and they will be put to sleep I do not take all there are too many, just some I actually have a 1 year old Chocolate male at the moment in foster care, left in the pound to die Oh how beautiful... haven't considered getting another boy Pei... really wanted a girl but like I said earlier I don't know that I can now since my fiance doesn't want him desexed.. And it would be such a shame if i desexed the girl if i bought her from a pedigree breeder.. your thoughts? How do boy Pei's get along? Do you have any pics of him?

Yes but you see Pandii, it's not entirely my decision alone.. The dog also belongs to my fiance, more so to him in fact because I was planning on buying a girl. But now, I don't know what to do because I don't want to use him for breeding. Probably stick to just having Simba...

Some more...

Here are some pics of Simba - all taken in the last couple of days!!

Sorry yes these people might be concerned by the damage they have already done. But if they were really good people they would have desexed their own two dogs and not BYB. I do hope thye are in the process of desexing their dogs right now so that they do not bring any more pups into this world with these genetic conditions. Peibe Baby I do hope that you desex your puppy when he is old enough and don't breed with him. If you do choose to breed in the future I hope you join your states Canine Council, become a registered breeder, purchase registered dogs that are fine examples of their breed, put the time and effort into showing them, research their genetic history and breed lines and thne only breed to better the Shar Pei breed. It's sad that you probably thought you were saving a few dollars by buying a pup from a BYB rather then a registered breeder and now in the long run it has cost you a whole lot more. I'm glad your pup is getting the medical attention he needs. Thanks Puggy, Reason we bought Simba was because after 2 months of trying to buy a chocolate male and there either being none available from reputable breeders or having been all sold we decided we'd settle for another colour, just happened to find Simba and we couldn't say no.. I wanted to be the one to help him with his 'condition'... Althought I would have loved to have bought a A1 pup for future breeding, it isn't an option with Simba due to his condition. This is a shame but one has to do what one has to do... I'll be posting pics up in a few minutes!

I agree, in fact i recommended they take all their sharpei (particularly their remaining pups) to my vet, which they informed me that they did today! And the other 2 pups are also booked in for eye tacking at the same time as my Simba which is great news. They will be paying for the three of them to get done. Oh that's sad.. I am more attached to animals, in particular dogs, than I am to children!! Some people think im strange.. I would have loved to have become a Vet or help in some way with animals.. Tell me more about what you do.. do people hand over their unwanted pets or do you find them on the streets..??

Agreed. This pup needs to go straight back for the "breeders" to manage, and you should be given a full refund. Perhaps, everyone has their own judgement I guess. I'm not willing to return Simba, it isn't an option for us. If we wanted to, we know we could, alternatively the young couple have offered to pay for his tacking and Entropion Surgery.

Hi Miranda, They aren't a breeder, they have two shar pei's that had a litter and sold them. They are really genuine people, in fact, they emailed me offering to pay for all his costs (which i refused, we will go halves instead). What would one do with the pups otherwise?? Id like to breed them one day... so what would I do with them? Not sell them? I would understand they need tacking and do it prior to selling, but if they're going to need extra TLC later on that's the new owners' responsability, right? Passing him on to anyone else is not an option. PB if you want to breed Sharpei as a longer term objective, I can't recommend more highly that you join your breed club, purchase registered dogs, exhibit them and learn as much as you can from an experienced mentor before you take that step. I'm sure there'd be folk here who'd help steer you in that direction. No doubt you've already learned that there's more to breeding healthy examples of a breed than owning a male and a female and mating them. Personally, I'd suggest breeding to decrease the likelihood of the issues your pup has experienced would be a worthy objective to consider. That would mean not breeding from your current pup. Absolutely, I definintely won't be jumping in to that anytime soon! I would like to commit myself to the Breed and learn as much as I can before I even think of buying. Thank you for your recommendation, much appreciated!