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  1. Sorry to be a pain, but I am still confused. From reading that, the Canine Cough vaccine (Bordtella) is *not* a core vaccine... so how is it covered by the three-yearly recommendation???

    Not being a pain at all!

    You're right, Kennel Cough is not a core vaccination and still needs to be done annually if you elect to have your dog vaccinated against it. So for example, our clients who still want the KC vaccine will come in annually for that vaccine, but only every 3 years for the C3. (the KC vaccines are seperate injections to the C3).

    It's interesting isn't it, Sandgrubber. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere on the AVA site that same recommendation - the KC injection/intranasal 2 weeks prior to boarding and that in fact the KC vaccine probably only really lasts 8 months.

    Thanks for that. I can see where kennels are coming from - and since most kennels insist on a C5 (which I believe includes canine cough), then they probably think they may as well demand everything be done annually... otherwise you probably would need to produce two certificates - one for canine cough & one for the core vaccines.

    My vet and kennels aren't yet accepting the three yearly vaccine (spoke to them a couple of months ago), but I think the new training club is open to the new protocol. If I didn't have to board, I would probably switch to three yearly, but until the kennels change, I'm stuck.

  2. Off label as in, not going by the dosage instructions on the label (which for most vaccines will say yearly).

    The first release we got from the AVA said that kennels should NOT be dictating a different recommendation to vets. However, being a privately run business, like vets, they are allowed to accept and reject whatever they like. They already do it now with the types of KC vaccines. We discuss the matter with all our clients first prior to being done, so those who board regularly need to check with their kennels whether they are accepting the new protocol.

    http://avacms.eseries.hengesystems.com.au/...ContentID=14289

    Definition of core vaccine:

    Core vaccines should be administered to all animals to protect them against severe,

    life-threatening diseases that have a global distribution.

    Dogs: canine distemper virus, canine adenovirus and canine parvovirus.

    Cats: feline parvovirus, feline calicivirus and feline herpesvirus.

    The Australian Veterinary Association (AVA) believes that in most cases, core vaccines need

    not be administered any more frequently than triennially and that even less frequent vaccination

    may be considered appropriate if an individual animal’s circumstances warrant it. However,

    local factors may dictate more frequent vaccination scheduling. These recommendations may

    be ‘off label’ for some vaccines.

    Sorry to be a pain, but I am still confused. From reading that, the Canine Cough vaccine (Bordtella) is *not* a core vaccine... so how is it covered by the three-yearly recommendation???

  3. Great to get some more media coverage in this.

    We switched our clinic to the new protocol when we took over from the new owner and 99% of owners have appreciated it. We've had a few who were not so sure and opted to continue annuals, but mostly, we've had a pleasing response.

    I'm curious as I've been told by a vet that the "new" protocols are only for *some* vaccines. I have been told that the Canine Cough vaccine is recommended to be given every 6 months under the new guidelines - is this correct?

    Nope wrong. Yes there are vacc's registered for 3 yearly use, but the AVA have said that ALL core vacc's are likely to also last 3 years. They specifically state that the new protocol will likely mean administering vacc's as an 'off label' dose.

    Go to the AVA's website - plenty of info there! I just printed out a few pages to put in the waiting room :(

    Okay... for the dumbies... what is an "off label dose"??? And will it be accepted by training clubs and kennels?

    And, any chance you could post the linky for this dumbo to the website - I went looking a while ago and got awfully lost :love:

  4. Great to get some more media coverage in this.

    We switched our clinic to the new protocol when we took over from the new owner and 99% of owners have appreciated it. We've had a few who were not so sure and opted to continue annuals, but mostly, we've had a pleasing response.

    I'm curious as I've been told by a vet that the "new" protocols are only for *some* vaccines. I have been told that the Canine Cough vaccine is recommended to be given every 6 months under the new guidelines - is this correct?

  5. no, not fussy - I was just trying to save you having to buy overseas.

    Have a look at page 5 of the link I gave before - their second lot of tie-out chains only have one clip, but they do have a ring that you can thread the "prong" thingy through... so you can loop it around a post or something to secure that end, then clip the other to the dog.

  6. It would be nice to have a list in each unit with has...

    - name, phone number & directions to local vet - you never know when things can happen

    - location of any off-leash areas

    - location of any good local pet supply stores... just in case you break a lead or need extra food.

    Personally for me, I would like the entire property fenced (I have a sighthound who I cannot let off lead). For me to be comfortable, all fences would need to be 6ft and have no gaps underneath.

  7. - parking at the door

    - appts generally run to time, but if for some reason they don't (eg emergencies) reception staff let you know.

    - accessible scales in the waiting room and staff that don't mind if you "drop in" just to weigh an animal - I sometimes do it as part of training, just to get the dogs used to getting on the scales and staying still. They may think that I'm an idiot, but they never show it whilst I'm there.

    - waiting room usually only has one or two animals waiting because of the way they arrange their appts. And, there is plenty of room to spread out and move away if need be.

    - vets and staff remember me and my pet, even when I drop in without an animal

    - only struck one idiot vet amongst the bunch - seemed scared of big dogs - the rest are brilliant and I can usually choose who I want to see if it is not an emergency.

    - vets that are willing to explain treatments, diagnosis to the "paranoid owner" who always has questions... and don't make me feel like an idiot in the process.

    - the care and sensitivity shown when I had to have my guinea pig PTS - explained the process (it is different to dogs) and why things were done, and gave me time and space to bawl... then sensitively approached the subject of what to do with her next (which cannot be an easy thing for a vet) and still treated her with respect after she was "gone".

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