dark angel
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Ahh another person that doesnt use the stay command.So much simpler to tell a dog to sit and well thats what he does..WHy confuse the issue with sit, sit stay, sit wait etc etc etc.... if a dog sits,drops or stands he shouldnt do anything else untill hes told too.
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We are taking our dogue to canberra for a show.Because of the new adelaide airport it now is going to cost 140 dollars to have her transported more than us !! Last time we took her virgin charged us 10 dollars .. unbelievable
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My opinion is that once the dog has already growled at the other dog his mindset has already changed for the worse.The getting to sit after the dog has growled is maybe a little too late.That is why there is the redirected aggression.Id prefer to see your dog in a drop position rather than a sit or maybe redirect your dog ..turn the other way praise him keep him attentive to you as you walk away from the other dog.Do not try to pat him and calm him down if he growls.It only will reinforce it..patting and talking to him = praise. you dont want that when hes growling or eyeballing the other dog.Does he do this with all dogs or only a chosen few?
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Too Much Socialisation
dark angel replied to dark angel's topic in Training / Obedience / Dog Sports
So what do you do/ what does he do when there is no "Alpha aid" ie prong and lead on him when another dog approaches that isn't under control? I believe when using corrections to stop aggro you are stopping the visual behaviour but not the dogs mindset. I personally don't see that as problem solved jmo. cheers M-J If he is off lead i heel him .He comes to me.I havent YET had trouble with him off lead.I believe i have changed his mindset.He now if approached by another unknown dog will assume a subordinate position even roll onto his tummy with some. -
Too Much Socialisation
dark angel replied to dark angel's topic in Training / Obedience / Dog Sports
Have you ever met a dog that is not friendly? What did you do? or what would you do? You have almost explained what i have been trying to.Why should your dog when walking with you WANT to go play with other dogs?Can u call him back if he runs to play ? Who is to blame if he gets mauled? Not having a go at you just need clarification -
Too Much Socialisation
dark angel replied to dark angel's topic in Training / Obedience / Dog Sports
Thankyou for all your comments maybe not so much about being slightly demented but hey ill take the good with the bad. Thankyou all who picked up on the incorrect spelling of Boerboel. Firstly some clarification Fritz has a high rank drive and I believe he sees himself as the alpha male. Certain dogs for some reason which we are not sure of as why he imparts this Alpha status on them.This has happened four times over the last year.From memory a Bulldog a Coolie a New Zealand Kelpie and one other which I cant remember. I am his pack leader not him.I am Alpha not him Growling lunging just plain wanting to eat the dog.So how did we fix it? Have the dog in question sit on lead and i would walk past the dog with fritz on lead of course.As soon as there was a sign of this aggression i would correct him.A light tug on his lead and a stern no does NOT take him out of his DRIVE.A firm correction and a loud no tells him its not right.Once he has returned to his normal self lots of praise.On the whole it takes about 5 passes before he no longer does it and problem solved. Yes if a dog growls sniffs or looks at another dog he is corrected. When there are 15 - 20 dogs walking in tight circles ,dropping within 20 cm's of each others noses dogs weaving in and out each other the only thing that dog should have on its mind is its handler not the dog next to him in front of him or behind him. No not avoid, have them disinterested in other dogs so they dont interact with them. I whole heartedly agree.Unfortunately the word socialisation and play to some people mean the same thing It almost seems no one corrects their dog? So once again for your comments. But one thing seems to puzzle me.Is my dog the only dog in this world that has rank drive? Am i the only person who corrects this drive.From some of the replies its seems avoidance from the handlers is the answer .Dont let the dog get into such a situation? Take him away from another dog if it seems there may be a confrontation? My dogs behaviour is the sole responsibilty of myself.So if correcting him for ANTI social behaviour results in avoidance of confrontations then what am i doing wrong. If my dog can drop and then be humped by another dog which is not so well trained and be oblivious to it has he been taught badly? I think not.Others may think differently. Finally as K9 force wrote in one of his great posts And that is what i aim for and believe am very close to it -
Hi there my first post and im going straight into the deep end.After reading countless posts on this forum it seems as though a lot of owners seem to ecourage their dogs to play with other dogs.(not referring to dogs that they also own) We also fell into a trap similar with our lovable Fritz a boerbaul.We used to walk him down the linear park where we live and stop and talk to other dog owners let the dogs sniff play etc. Is this the right thing to do? Previously i thought what harm could it do? they are having a great time.Until.... either my dog or your dog realizes they dont like the other and whalah a circumstance where it can be embarassing for both owners . We now socialise both our dogs the boerbaul and our dogue but in our socialization we teach them How to behave around other dogs. No sniffing No eye contact and no growling.It works a treat .Walking the dogs they seemingly oblivious to all other dogs ..yes they know they are there but dont even try to have contact with them..So much safer and calming for us. The boerbaul has had issues with a few dogs.But after a few very very stern corrections on his prong collar for looking at the other dog or reacting to the dog as he walks past he knows what not to do and heels very very close to me. At our dog training we have socialisation for 30 mins where we teach the dogs not to socialize with the other dogs.When i mean socialize i mean play react etc.Maybe a better word would be behave. oh btw our boerbaul is 52 kgs so yeah last thing we want is him to be wanting to "play" with another dog lol Would love to hear peoples views....