Kelpie Kisses

LOL I guarantee they have never even heard of Kelpies !!!! The kelpies have the Finnish judge, so we dont mind if the Brazillians have never heard of a Kelpie !!!!

Siitting on 999 points for 2 weeks......And getting 2 reserve challenges on the weekend in between !!!!!! ;)

A couple of links about CA....Jane's story is one that you should read.... It is a very cruel disease http://www.australiankelpie.com/disorder_ca.htm http://www.australiankelpie.com/genetic_di..._in_kelpies.htm

Dont ask me....probably some self-important person somewhere decided that those colours were unacceptable !!! I dont have a problem with these colours.....the Blue & Tans are particularly striking looking dogs..... And they couldnt use the excuse that cream is a dilute colour, because Blue is a dilute Black, and Fawn is a dilute chocolate, and they are both acceptable colours !!!!!

It's called being a teenager.....and like human teenagers, most of them will grow up eventually !!!!

There are seven colours of kelpies that can be registered with the ANKC. They are : Red, Red & Tan, Black, Black & Tan, Chocolate, Blue & Fawn. The colours Cream, Blue & Tan and Chocolated & tan exist, but they cannot be registered with the ANKC. Some dogs are registered as Red & Tans, but are more Chocolate & Tan in colour. Sometimes, the only way you can tell a chocolate puppy from a red puppy is by the colour of their nose.....a chocolate puppy will have a true dark brown chocolate coloured nose, where a red puppy will have a lighter more reddish brown nose. Red dogs can range in colour from a dark mahogany red, to an almost orange red colour As has been discussed within these posts, working kelpies are bred for their working ability more than their colour or conformation (and rightly so !!). You will find that white markings on working kelpies will come from some sort of cross with another breed ( probably Border) somewhere along the line. White patches on a kelpie in the showring are undesirable (I have been told no more than two fingers width) I have found that almost every kelpie has some sort of white or cream hair on them somewhere....a lot of mine have a few creamy coloured hairs on their bellys or the underside of their tails. I think these cream colourings come from the coloured genes in their lines, as the kelpie breed was developed from a couple of smooth coated, prick eared black & tan collie like dogs. There are dogs around with bronze or cream coloured hairs that are called shaded dogs.....this also comes from the colored genes within most kelpies. There was a move at some stage to try & get rid of these shaded dogs in the showring, but this would disqualify quite a few dogs from competing. As a follow on from the Chocolate/red posts, acceptable doberman colours include red & tan, but unlike the kelpies, red can be anything from deep chocolate to a true red colour ( similar to a human red head). So I think it depends on each breed standard as to the acceptable colours, but in the kelpie standard, there is a definite difference between chocolate & red .

This is my red dog Bear & his son Floyd....these two are the colour of dog that would be referred to as Red Clouds.

There was a famous red kelpie that did well in sheep dog trials many years ago that was called Red Cloud. About the same time, there was a black dog called The Barb. It was from these two dogs that the Red Clouds & Barbs got their names. They arent different types of kelpies, just names given to the different coloured dogs by the farmers.

Have been reading all the posts, and not wanting to wade into the Working/Bench Kelpie debate, I only want to say that if you are going to show a coloured kelpie with any success, you have to have not only good colouring, but damn good conformation. Coloured kelpies are behind the 8 ball to start with in the show ring, so they have to have all in their favour. My red & tan bitch has been shown to her title, and now is shown sparingly, and under judges that I know will look seriously at a coloured dog. She has just produced a lovely black & tan bitch who will be heading out into the show ring soon. The pups sire is a black & tan dog who is not only titled in the show ring, but has quite a few herding titles under his belt. It is important that breeders keep the coloured kelpies out in the show ring, or it will get to the stage that all we see are solid colours. Jillybean (Wingdari Drovers Sweetheart) & her mother Sally (Wingdari Drovers Sally)

All good reasons, but maybe it is to stop longhaired dogs from getting their hair caught in the slip collar, and preventing it from slipping up & down freely.... I used to use one on my Belgian Shepherd when training him for obedience

"On the issue of dog names and what comes before them, here's an ANKC regulation that's popularly breached on this website: 1.6.4 The word “Australian” is not to be used in conjunction with any “Champion” or “Grand Champion” title, effective 1.1.2000. (05/99, 5.12)." Does this mean that even if your dog received it's title before 1.1.2000, and the words "Australian Champion" are on their title certificate & pedigree, that you still cannot use it ?

Done....

Condy's Crystals work a treat...I got a small container from my vet. All you do is wet a cotton tip & dip it in the crystals, then dab it onto the end of the nail....stops bleeding immediately !!!!!

My guys have Bones, Raw Carrots, & Apples with the cores taken out......nothing like covering all bases.....works for them. Even the English Toys & the Iggy love them !!

I have 4 Australian Kelpies..only one of which I would consider shows any sign of possibly being a good worker.........They are definitely town kelpies.......Having said that, I have a friend who breeds & shows Australian Kelpies & Australian Stumpy tailed cattledogs. She works on a feedlot, and most of her "showdogs" work with her on the feedlot. She has a Grand Champion Stumpy who works sheep, camels, goats, or just about anything that comes through the feedlot...these dogs are showdogs, but first & foremost they must be able to earn their keep.