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The people in the OP who are using their dog's leash to carry their shoes on. I guess they thought hanging the thongs on the end of the leash was fine, I wonder if it was pointed out to them whether they would be like "Oh yeah, hm, maybe that is annoying to the dogs!" people need things pointed out sometimes

There's only pressure on the dogs muzzle if they pull against the leash! Otherwise the noose is loose and they are free to pant, bark, etc. If my dog were to keep pulling in a halti I would NOT keep using one and it would be an indicator that it's the wrong tool for that particular dog. Who's doing that?

Thats scary!!! But it's just the risk like with anything I guess, my girl would be left in an empty room if I worried about everything Good heads up though!! I wouldn't want to chance leaving her with nothing to do cos thats when they can get bored and find other things interesting that you don't want them chewing I guess anything could turn dangerous, rope balls have been chewed bits off and swallowed and killed dogs, rubber bits causing obstructions etc. I do worry a lot but also like to know my girl is kept busy, she gets a kong and also her raw meaty bones to keep her busy, but she eats sensibly so all we can do is pray nothing ever happens. I won't throw mine out.. yet!

Holy mackeral I go for a shower and come back to dozens more posts! Agree! Particularly the bold part *In the same way a check chain or halti works for many dog owners. I also disagree that you have to stop using it after a while even if it's working perfectly fine, even if the dog seems comfortable, if it doesn't pull, and if you have no plans to ever need your dog to walk well without a lead (such as obedience trialing etc) No one's explained that one fully Also agree! It's not a medieval torture tool, it's as harsh as a check chain could be in the wrong hands :D Honestly the head band goes around behind the ears (Where a collar is most effective anyway) and sits quite snug, and the noseband is lightweight and isn't even tight, the dog can bark, pant, eat and be a normal dog with the nose band on... it's the feeling of having something on their muzzle that they have to get used to, and if introduced to it nicely they don't hate it (or in my experience that was the way, probably different for other doggies though!). And yes Shyla has learnt that if she pulls ahead in it her head turns to the side a bit, that is annoying! Like Bindii said. So she walks/trots by my side and I hold the leash in one hand, sometimes with one finger and I thoroughly enjoy our walks now! As does Shyla, she LOVES the word walk and sees the gentle leader coming and closes her muzzle so I can slip it over and clip it on. Then we're out the door and she's sniffing away at the world! No qualms at all. I think it has to do with the collar part sitting right up behind the ears too, not down on the neck like flat collars etc. And the gentle leader only tightens on the muzzle when the dog pulls, otherwise it's loose! It's cool though it doesn't bother me what others think, some people try to push their point (not naming names LOL) as long as we're all happy with our dogs that's the main thing and of course our choices along the way will differ

Perfect!!!, not to hijack your thread Shelle, but that intent staring needs to be reinforced and rewarded and to hold the stare as long as possible. It's a great step in teaching a competition heel gaining eye focus from the dog Interesting! I usually always stare and then she breaks the stare, I guess cos she sees me as alpha?

Whenever I get mad at Shyla and put on my mad voice (which is a one tone unhappy voice, not shouting or shrieking, I keep it a low tone which she knows is angry mumma) I use that voice and frown and she can tell I am not happy by my body language and vocals. When I do this, she will sulk and put her head low and come over to me and then stare at me intently and lick at my face and neck very slowly and tentatively til I relax! Her tail wags a little in anticipation or hoping that I become un-angry maybe. What is this? :rolleyes: To me it's like she's saying sorry mummy/alpha, sorry sorry, but I could be wrong LOL

Same here :rolleyes: I use the gentle leader and love it, my girl does NOT fight it and never gets her neck or head pulled or tugged in such a way that it would injure her. It says in that article to see if the dog becomes happy and lively once the gentle leader comes off (meaning it kills their mental state), umm NO my girl does not react any different to the gentle leader being on or off.. that's cos I haven't abused her with it on! She has no issues with it AT ALL, so for some people it DOES work.. and some it doesn't. I think the anti halti people have to accept the people who like using them and use them properly and don't use them in any way that would injure their dog and let them be I think choker chains can be just as bad in the wrong hands, the yanking and jerking on the neck could be devastating, it's all in the way these tools are used. I LOVE not having to have sore hands from a puller and having to hear my dog choking on the end of a tight collar and I LOVE going on our walks now, we have fun and they are never negative, always positive I have a flat collar on her neck also so if she was to freak out or go mental in a situation where the gentle leader would be jerking on her face I would immediately grab the flat collar and contain her that way. Not that I have ever had to! Thankyou!! as I said, Lexi is enthusiastic, she loves having it on, it means she is going on and adventure, but she also has a flat collar on, and if she gets too excited (such as at obedience) I have unclipped her and clipped onto her collar, but the gentle leader stays on Perhaps gentle leaders are a bit better than Haltis, Ive seen haltis on dogs and they either arent fitted correctly, or they just look wrong on the dog, my gentle leader was fitted by my trainer and she has showed me how to resize it correctly, Ive never found a problem with my gentle leader Yeah it's all in how it's used ;) If the dog is not against the device and happy to have it on, and it isn't being abused with the device and it makes walking a happy partnership.. it's good in my books! I do know some dogs that go spacko in the haltis and HATE them... in that regard I wouldn't use one. I'm sure most dogs would show negativity towards it initially, it's something to get used to, Shyla rubbed at her nose for the first week but now she never really reacts to it being on. If she hated it though I would definitely not use it. It's definitely just for some dogs and not for others!

Same here :rolleyes: I use the gentle leader and love it, my girl does NOT fight it and never gets her neck or head pulled or tugged in such a way that it would injure her. It says in that article to see if the dog becomes happy and lively once the gentle leader comes off (meaning it kills their mental state), umm NO my girl does not react any different to the gentle leader being on or off.. that's cos I haven't abused her with it on! She has no issues with it AT ALL, so for some people it DOES work.. and some it doesn't. I think the anti halti people have to accept the people who like using them and use them properly and don't use them in any way that would injure their dog and let them be I think choker chains can be just as bad in the wrong hands, the yanking and jerking on the neck could be devastating, it's all in the way these tools are used. I LOVE not having to have sore hands from a puller and having to hear my dog choking on the end of a tight collar and I LOVE going on our walks now, we have fun and they are never negative, always positive I have a flat collar on her neck also so if she was to freak out or go mental in a situation where the gentle leader would be jerking on her face I would immediately grab the flat collar and contain her that way. Not that I have ever had to!

How do you know it was a boy? Maybe it was a very hairy girl. :laugh:

Knickers in a twist I'd say :laugh: Some people need to chillax a little!

I did this with Shyla once, for about 5 seconds, realized the thongs fall down (duh) and flap right near her face, so took them promptly off and carried them!

This is sooo horrible and saddening,

I reckon the wings look grosser than the frames!!

:rofl: :rofl: O M G ......

Ooo thanks I'll try the one in Dandenong!

Ahhhh!!! We just had a massive huntsman on the car windscreen on the drive home, my blood ran cold and my hands went numb in fear until I realized it was on the outside

Where can I get raw roo tails from?? My butcher has chicken bones, pork bones, lamb hearts, lamb flaps, chicken frames, offcuts which I buy but roo tail would be another GREAT source to add

This thread is full of such lovely oldies! I soooo hope Shyla is around for more than 10 yrs, I will do ALL I can to try and help her achieve nanna status

I tried the crumbling with Shy but that failed also!!! hahaha

bought some Milbemax thanks stormie

Week 10 - Sunshine and plush grass

Yep tried that but it says Robert Cavey doesn't exist on the pdf file ah well lol

A friend of mine gives her dog a clove of garlic a week to keep fleas away and her family has for years and years and they have never seen a flea. I got all excited cos this seems really natural and easy, but DOES it work, any one else have any feedback?

I have written to Interceptor, no reply at all. I can only think they are losing business and should maybe listen to what their customers are saying. Why they had to try and fix what wasn't brokent I don't know. I know, wth!!? Oh well their loss! Thanks heaps stormie I'll look into Milbemax

Nawww poor Bucket head!!! How was he when you got home? I hate when you hear them touch/nose the door when you leave.. especially in a bucket