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I hink what you are talking about is what we call a shedding blade---greatest thing I ever found for my golden retrievers. It has different size teeth on each side of the metal loop.. It is also great for getting excess water out of their coats wafter a bath. I also have what loks like a minature garden rake that I use and it is also great. It really helps with the under coat. When we had new carpet put down several years ago, we had 4 goldens--well 3 full goldens and a golden mix that most take for full godlen. We hunted to find a carpet color thawould not show heir fur so bad. Then 3 years ago (we were were down to 3 dogs then, having lost Hunter to ProHeart6) we went to get 2 new cker reclier chairs. I loved the forest green, green being my favorite color. Also the bar at one end of our livingroom has forest green top on it. But ewdog hair woul stand out on tht foet reen. Consier dyeing the dogs forest green, but decided that would be a hassel. JUST KIDDING OF COURSE) and we settled on a light brownish with goldthreads in it. And do hair does not show at all. I do think they have come out with something where you actually "vacuum" your dogs and remove most of the loss fur. I also carry those "sticky rollers" in the car, have them around the house, etc, to roll over or clothes.

iS IT LIKE AN DECORATIVE FISH POND IN THE YARD? hERE IN tEXAS WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL FISH PONDS THAT ARE ACTUALY JUST PONDS FOR CATTLE, ETC TO DRINK FROM, BUT ALWAYS END UP WITH FISH IN THEM. a COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THERE WERE SEVERAL REPORTS OF DOGS DYING AFTER BEING IN SOME OF THOSE POND CONTAMINATED WIH WHAT THEY CALLED BLUE ALGEA. iT WAS SUSPECTED IN THE DEATH OF ONE OF THE GOLDENS ON ONE OF THE GODEN RETRIEVER FORUMS i BELONG TO. bUT YOU MAY NOT EVEN HAVE IT DOWN THERE. wE GREW UP HUNTING QUAIL AND OUR DOGS, ENGLISH SETTERS AND ENGLISH POINTERS, DRANK FROM STREAMS, FISH PONDS, ALL THEIR LIVES WHILE WE WERE HUNTING, AND NONE EVER GOT SICK OR HAD A PROBLEM, SO i REALLY THINK YOU DOG SHOULD BE JUST FINE.

i SWEAR, DOGS CAN GET INTO EVERYTHING. oUR HONEY, GOLDEN MI, WIL EAT ANY AND EVERYTHING. sH FOUND A FLASH LIGHT BATTERY AND WAS CHEWING ON IT AND THAT REALLY SCARED ME. ALSO SHE GOT A BAR OF D-CON RAT POISON. WE WERE SO UCKY WITH HER ON THAT. hUBBY AND i WERE TAKING SOME OF OUR BOYS OLD TOYS OUT OF THE ATTIC FOR OUR GRANDKIDS AND ACCIDENTLY KNOCKED THE D-CON OUT. WITH 3 DOGS, A CAT AND 3 GRANDKIDS, NOTHING POISON WAS IN THE HOUSE ITSELF, JUST THE ATTIC. i SAW HONEY THROW UP AND SAW THE GREEN CHUNKS AND KNEW WHAT IT WAS. WE RUSHED HER RIGHT TO OUR VET WHICH IS ONLY 1 MILE FROM HERE. sHE WAS GIVEN AN INJECTION OF VITAMIN k AND THEN FORCED TO THROW UP SOE MORE AND THEY HELD HER ALL DAY. SENT HER HOME WITH 50 DAY SUPPLY OF EXPENSIVE VITAMIN K CAPSULES. TOOK HER BACK IN AFTER THE CAPSULS WERE GONE AND THEY DID A TEST TO TEST HER BLOOD CLOTTING FACTOR, AND SHE WAS FINE. BUT WHAT A SCARE THAT WAS.

YES, THAT EXACTLY THE CALLIE I AM TALKING ABOUT. SHE HAD BEEN USING CANES TO GET AROUND WHEN SOMEONE TOLD HER ABOUT THE KNOX. SHE WILL ALWAYS TRY NATURAL THINGS FIRST AND EVEN THO SHE HAD DOUBTS SHE GAVE IT A TRY. ONE DAY SHE GOT UP TO ANSWER THE PHONE OR SMETHING AND FOUND HERSELF CARRYING RATHER THAN USING CANES. SHE SENT ME SOME VERY FOUL SMELLING STUFF FOR A SOULDER IMPINGMENT ROBLEMi HAVE AND IT HELPED MY SHOULDER. CALLIES' COCKER, bILLY DEVELOPED AUTOIMMUNE HEMOLYTIC ANEMIA LAST EAR. iF YOU READ MY THREAD HERE, "PORHEART6--OR 12--CAN BE A KILLER" (IT IS ON DOWN) YOU WILL FIND WHAT A HORRIBLE DISEASE IT T IS. dRUGS THEY HAVE TO TAKE TYO SURVIVE DO HORRIBLE THINGS TO THEIR BODIES. SHE USES A LOT OF HERBS, ETC ANDbILLY IS ONE OF THE LUCKY AIHA DOG AND IS STILL AROUND. hE HAD A DOUBLE WHAMMY IN THAT HE IS A BLOND COCKER SPANIEL AND VERY FEW OF THEM SURVIVE. ACTUALLY, ONLY ABOUT 20% OF ANY BREED DOES SURVIVE THAT HORRIBLE DISEASE. sHE IS THE ONE THAT PUT US ONTO MILK THISTLE AND WE TAKE IT EVERY DAY AND ALSO GAVE IT TO ALL OUR DOGS--hONY STILL GETS IT. i AM ON MEDS NOW THAT ARE KINDA ROUGH ON LIVER (*3 FOR DIABETESE, ONE FOR THYROID, ONE FOR CHLESTEROL) AND MY BLOOD WORK FOR LIVER IS GREAT EVERY MONTH. i ASO TAKE CRANBERRY CAPSUL DAILY FOR KIDNEYS AND THEIR VALUES ARE ALSO ALWAYS GREAT.

It is unflavored gelatin powder. Somehow it helps rebuild cartledge in joints. The Plus has MSM and glucosamine added. I had seen the little individual packs used for cooig in with the jello packs in grocey store, but had never noticed the annistars until I actully looked for them in WalMart.

We had lost one of our golden retrievers Scooter, to heartr attack 2 months after his 5th birhtday. we had his full brother, later litter, Buck, who was lost without Scooter. We decided to get another mail golden. And the hunt began. We located a breederabout 50 mles from here and contacted him. Told him we wanted a male puppy. We went out and checked the paret dogs& apers out and selected this beautiful little boy. Then this little female came and got in hubbys lap and we were sunk. We could nt really afford 2 puppies, but something told us to take her. The breeder did give us a discount for taking 2--tho some breeders will not sell littermates together. They were almost weeks old when we brought them home and having the pair was great. They slept in a play pen beside the bed. Buck actually trained them to go potty. They were never distructive, never chewed on things....except each other. KayCee ad problems from the start with allergies. then at 16 months she developed a sudden limp on her right rear leg. I almost went into a pancv. I had lost my Irish Setter at 12 1/2 to bone cancer 2 1/2 years earlier. But it turned out she had a luxating patella and surgery fixed it. However 14 months latr, her left knee developed the sdame problem along with a damaged ACL and she had surgery on that knee. And just before that she had a severe reaction to her 2ed set of annual shots and we almost lost her. Sadly we lost her brother, Hunter to ProHeart in Oct. '03 (his story is in the health section)./ We learned KayCee was allergic to pine tree pollen --we have 2 in our front yard--to live oak pollen--they are thick as fleas on a hounds back around here-- to mold spores--we live on the coast and mold is very common--to fleas--heck, where are there not fleas--and to Bermuda grass--which most of our back yard lawn is made of. when she was 6 and I had a geriatric physical done on her, including chest x-rays, we gound she had an enlarged heart cvhamber and was put on one very low dose blood pressure med each day and a baby asprin every other day. Not long after that I had a ultrasound done--and we found she had a mal formed kidney. It workd perfect, just twice as thick as it should be. My vet she she was really a fluke to have all these these things wrong when her parents wre fit and there was no history of any of these problems. Hunter had been healthy as a horse, never sick a day in his life til the ProHeart6 got him. KayCee was the sweetet thing and she was a a chicken dog. If soething scared her, or was unusual, she would hid behind me ./ My vet use to laugh at her trying to hid behind me and peer around my legs at him----when her entire back half was totally exposed. She loved the grandkids and all dogs. She never met a stranger, either human or dog. Hubby is a cross c ountry truck driver and gone about 90% of the time, our sons long married, so there was just me and the dogs most of the time. I lost my od golden, brothe to Scooter, to heart attack May 15, 2007 at 12 yrs. 3 months, leaving KayCee and our adopted golden mix, Honey. Honey and KayCee were best bus and both slept with me. KayCee always slept on her back and I would rub her tummy. Back in the Spring I had found a pea size lump on the back of one leg--my vet has no idea how I found it as she had such long, thick "bloomers>" It was a fatty cyst nothing to worry about. Then on the morning o May 23, she did not want breakfast and threw up yellow bile. About a year or so ago she had a virus--noi ating throwing up--and I thought it was the sam thing again, I took her to the vet and while examing her he felt a mass in he lower abdoman. Ultrasound showed it, but he could not be certain just what it was growing to. He did emergency surgery that afternoon., I knew when he came out it was grim. He said the tumor hd apparently started on her appendix, totally engulfed it, then completely encircled the area where her lage and small intistines join. In 20 years he had never seen a tumor in that area, the worst possible place because of a "etwork of blood vessels" Normal gasto tumor removal is 30 to 45 minutes. It took him 1 1/2 hours to emove KayCee's. He had not expected her to come around after surgery, but she did. This wqas Frida night. I sw the tumor. It was the size of a softball, a big ugly thing. I can not figure how I never felkt it rubbing her tummy every single night. I went in to see her Saturday morning and was there a couple of hours Went back at feeding/meds time and got to take her outside to do her business. But she would not eat and they had to force feed her--she had to get her insdes to working or they would shut down poermantly. When I went back Sunday morning she had alreay been taken outside4 and she did not look well. I was there about an hour. When Iwent back about 5:30 Sunday afternoon, I took one look at her and I knew she was in such ba condition. She couldn't not even standy. The techs took her out and laid her on a blanket and I got down on the floor with her her. Her eyes told me she was suffering so badl. She was given a pain shot and that heled, but I knew I needed to let her go. I asked what time Rickey would be in for night rounds and te tech said he canme in around 7:30. I asked if they culd call and see if he would come in earlieri, I did not want her suffering any more. both his home phone and cell phone were called, no answer. They said he always returned calls within 5 minutes. Time went on, we 3 sat on the floor with her, I told them all about her----one was new. I hugged and kissed her. I asked that fur be clipped that I could keep and for her foot print to be made before she died. That was done. We could not figure out why Rickey was not calling. Then at 7:00 she gasped and I knew it was the end. She gasped a couple more times and 7:02 she was gone. She gave me the gift of going on her own, I did not have to sign the dreaded papers toi send her to the Bridge. She died in mt arms, knowing how loved she was. During that time she had looked me in the eyes so many times. God had tha puppy get into hubby' lap because He knew we woud go the ends of the earth for her and we did A few mites after I got home my vetcalled. e had been on the road and his cell phone would dial out. He was so upset he had no en there for me and KayCee, bt I told him I was glad. I had that extra time with her and she went on her own without me having to sign the papers. I had her creamted and her ashes are buried next to her brother, Hunter, in our back yard. They had been so close andd she had gone into a depression when he was in the hospital and died. Now they are together. The histopath report came back--it was a gastrointestinal stromal tumor. Rickey had never removed one from a dog before. Research toild me that it is also very rare in humans, only 1 to 3% of all gastric tumors are of this kind. Leave it to my KayCee girl---she just had to be differnt, God love her. This is my KayCee, take just weeks before she died. KayCee Aug. 19, 1999 to May 25, 2008

I found this forum while researching the re-release of proheart6 here in the states. I was looking to find any rports of adverse reactions/deaths since it had been back on the market here after an almost 4 year absence. See, it killed my beautiful golden retriever, Hunter the first time it was out. On with his story We had 3 full golden retrievers and an adopted golden retriever mix and they were on Interceptor monthly heartworm prevention. Here on the coast of texas we have skeeters year round and if your dog is not on heartworm prevention, it most surely will get those nasty critters. Honey, our golden mix was right at a year old when we adopted herDec. 7, 2002----and a month afdter we got her, we found she already had heartworms and had to have her treated. I had been hearing about ProHeart6, how safe it was. Heck, even heartworm positive dogs could have it with no problem. I was safe given with vaccines and antibiotics, etc. Still I hesitated. Finally I decided to start my dogs, all except the oder golden, on it, one at a time. Hunter was the frst, He got one in Sept. 2002, one in March 2003, and one the end of Aug. 2003. Honey was next and she got her first April 2003 and her 2ed Oc. 2003. KayCee was last and she got her first one the first of Aug. 2003. The morning of Oct. 9, 2003, I was checking all their teeth to see if any needed dentals and I noticed Hunter's gums were very pale. Now, having been around dogs--and owing my first way back in '56---I had seen pale gum before and usually it meant hook worms, especially in puppies. Hunter had just turned 4 yeas old, but still, he had been off Interceptor for a year and th ProHeart6 injection did not take care of hook worms like the Interceptor monthly pill did. I called my vet at once to get an appointment that morning, thniking Hunter had hook worms. A short time later, a couple of hours before our appoibntmenbt, I was on the patio with the dogs and Kay?Cee (Hunter's littermate sister" peeded just off the patio and being a male, he had to go where she went. He normall went out at the back fence. Well, I saw his urine was the color od rusty water and that really scared me. When we got to the vet's--which is onlaile from us in th little town of 9300 people--I wa shcoked when he weighed in at 69 pounds--he had been 78 pounds when he had gotten his ProHeart6 injection 5 weeks before. But he had such long, thick fur and undercaot you could not tell he had lost that weight., He was tall, long and lean, we had called him the "long Lean Playing Machine" as he was also so active. Also he had a temp of 104 degrees. My vet said I needed to leave him there for tests. Later he called and said Hunter had autoimmune hemolytic anemia, a disease I had never heard of. It is alsoald imune ediat hemolyticanemia goig by either AIHA or IMHA, Rickey (my vet) told me to come in and we would talk treatment. When I got there we went over everything different with Hunter for the previous 2 months and the only thing different was teProHeart6 injection. He said "When it comes time for his next Proheart injection, we are going back to the monthly pills." That was my first clue that ProHeart6 was the ulprit. Well, this old grannie had never used a computer, so I went to our little town library and they showed me how to use one and I first googled AIHA ad my heart sank as I read about this horrible disease. Something like 50% die the first week after diagnosis, another 30% within a month pf diagnosis. There is no cure, only remission and anything can cause a relapse from a vax, to antibiotic to stress to even a change in food. I thn gogled ProHeart6 and stories started coming up. The first one wa ladyin North Carolina ls her shiht,Duker, to AIHA 4 weeks after Proheart6 injection. The next was a lady in Colordao that took all 3 of hers in the same day. In 2 months, the 11 year old "skipper key (do not know correct spelling), Niki, was dead of liver problems and the 4 year old mix, Tasha, was dead of AIHA. The 2 year old shepherd/lab mix was on meds--and 6 years later, today, is still on meds. I found more and more and actually found my first dog forum this way. There were several posting stories there about their dogs that had died or or were ill follwong Proheart6 injections. These dogs ranged from just under a year to 121 years old, all breeds and mixes. Well, because my vet knows I was a farm girl and had treated various injuries, etc, and we both love sporting dogs--he had an Irish Setter like me when he first came here 20 years ago and now has an English setter, we have had a lot of converstaions and he allows me freedoms not usually given to others. Hunter was in ICu and I was allowed to go visit him any time, take his IV and taken him outsdie to do his business, take him fresh boiled chicken, etc. I went 3 times a day on Friday. They are only open til noon on Saturday and not at all on Sunday. I went Saturday amorning and just before Noon on Saturday and he arranged for me to be let him late that afternoon at feeding.meds time, and also on Sunday morning and Sunday afternoon, I went backSat. afternoon and Sunday morning, with iontention of going back at 5:30 that afternoon. But he called me bout 3:00 and said he was going to remove Hunter's spleen, come on in. With AIHA the spleen kills the red blood cells and his was killing so many it could not get rid of them all and was grossly swollen. Oh, he also said they had had to give Huner 2 units of blood. His HCT had dopped to 9.7--should have been around 40. I went right straight to the hopital, but when I got there, he was doing an ultrasound and then told me he had decided against spleen removal. It appeard Hunter hd cancer of the liver. Hunter was on a ton of meds--the same ones I had read needed to be given--and was on round the clock IV with antibiotics. I went in the 3 times on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. By Wed. afternoon we knewhe was needinbg more meds andthe ext step was cyclosporine. Rickey had enough on hand for a dose that night and one the net morning, but he ordered some from the drug store in the next town and they were to call me the next morning when it arrived, I wa to pick it up and bring it to the hsopital. So I did not go in Thursday morning, waiting for the call. It came, I went and got the drug and went to the hospital. My heart dropped when I saw Hunter. He looked awful. I had gotten use to the shavd legs where the IV was changed daily from leg to let, the sahved thoat where blood was drawn daily, the grossly bloated tummy (due to swollen spleen) that had been shaved for the ultrasound. I was use to the orange color tongue--jaundice--. But I was not use to sunken eyes and what appeard to be temples sunken in so far his head looked pointed., For the first time he refused to eat the boiled chicken I took in for him. It was noted on his chart that he had been throwing up. I went back about 5:45 and I could not believe that golden boy in that cage was my Hunter. He sat there with eye4s twitching, nable to focus, head bobbing up and down, muscles jerking. I opened the door and sat there and he leaned his head against me and that seemed to steay him some. I brushed him, told him how special he was, how much I loved him and when I felt my voice cracking, I stoppedtalking and just heldhim. In my heart I knew I was going to lose him. They close at 7:00, but the receptionis said they would stay as long as I wanted to. I think thy knew he was going to leave me. They all were crazy about that most gnetle soul Even the groomer would go back to visit him, off duty techs came in to check him, the part time vet that worked with my vet would call and check on him. Three times I went up front, but went back to tell him how much I loved him. I left at 7:15. At 9:02 I got the call. Hunter had gone into seizure and died at 8:40. WE had a necropsy done since it was suspeted he had cancer of the liver and having his littermate sister, we neded to know. But when the histopath report came in--no cancer, just "drug induced necrosis of the liver." I got serioous then and I hit every site I could to tell of his death and warn peple. Many of us were doing that. Fort Dodge "offered" to pay just about half of the vet bill but I would have to sign a release and never tell about Hunter and ProHeart6 and I would not agree. I felt I owed it to the dogsof the word to let it be known that ProHeart6 waqs dangerous. One lady who almost lost her pug, Velvet started a site and as people found it, they told stories and man y had e-mail address isted, as I did. Overthe next months so many found me and told me the stories. About 45 of us who lost our dogs to AIHA following the PH6 injection found each other. We made reports of the adverse reaction or death to the FDA. That is Federal Drug group that monitors all drugs and they have a section for vet meds as well. Laurryn knows how to get information with the freedom of Information Act and she published "Dr. Dotor Letters that th FDA had sent Fort Dodge having hem cahnge labels. Th first change--do not give to dogs with heartwomrs as so many have died. Next, AIHA and ;iver damager wastyo be listed as adverse reactions. And the day Hunter got his fatal injection, the warning was to includ DEATH as a reaction. Dr. Hampshire, te vet who took the reports sw patterns. She saaw that in the 3 yeas it had been on the market, it had caused more deaths than all other heartworm preventatives combine, and some had been on the market 12-13 years, the daily had been out like 25 years. On Sepot. 3, 2004, 109 months after Hunter's death, it was pulled from the market. On Jan 31, 2005, there was a hering to get it back on. Several attened and spoke. Many, many of us had sent in ou stories and each emember got a copy of every store. The panel denied it coming back until more studies were done. Many of us are still in close contact after all this time . We shared the death of near death of our beloved dogs, common denomiator, ProHeart6. Bandit, a Broder Collie in Wisconsin, died the same day as my Hunter. It was his 4th injection that killed him. He went into unstoppable seizures 10 hours after the injction--the firest seizure of his 7 years of life. His owner and I feel our boys are connected, both having died way to young, both killed by ProHeart6, both dying the same day. The FDa says only 10 to 15% of all cases of adverse reactions, deaths are reported. To man times the people do notrealize that the their dogs liver damge or AIHa, etc is associated to the Proheart6--opr other vax--given weeks before. I would hve never suspected that i was tyhe ProHeart6 given 5 weeks earlier that caused my Hunter's deah had my vet not said it. and in hnd sight we realize he had not ben quite right for a couple of weeks. but it was such little things, like pieces of a jig saw puzzle. One or two alone do not mean anything, but put toghete, it makes a picture. It was allowed back on teh market here in June but withall kinds of warnings indluding not to give withing a month of any other vax, do blood work, do not give to underweight or sickly dogs, and I have even seen it is not to be given to dogs over 7 years of age. They say it has been "reformulate4d" and the "residu suspected of causing the reactions hqas been removed". But back then they were claiming it was not their product. Several from Australia have come to American forums looking for answers because they lost or almost lost a dog to it. According to waht they say, you report to the proer agency and thn then turn it over to the manufature to investigate andDEERMINE IF THEIR OWN PRODUCT IS AT FAULT OR NOT.' I find that rather like ltting he fox investigate the hen house raid. One guy I will never forget was a PI in Sydney and he almost lost his "best mate", a maltese, to it. I know thousdands of dogs had it with no problem. But when it kills more dogs in 3 years than all others combined has in a combined total of over 100 years, then it seems it is not the best choice. In our town of 9300, I lost my Hunter. My car insurance agent's secretay's chihuahua had a severe swelling and waqs sick for a week after getting it's one and only injection. It made a couple fo trips to the vet. A lady at my church had her stanrdard poodle get on injection----and Amber was on meds the rest of her life, 4 years, because of it. My vet did tell me of a great dane that collapsed before leaving the hospital, but an injection of something else brought her around. And then there was the aussie shepherd that almost died after it's 2ed injection. They thought the illness after the first one was something else. But it was so bad after the 2ed one they knew it was the PH6. That is 5 dogs in my small town that I know of. If you want to learn more, go to www.dogsadversereactions.com and just click on the moxidectin section. there are many stories and pictures of dogs that were lost or almost lost, plus published copies of letters from the FDA to Fort Dodge and all kinds of infomation. One thing, it stays in theri system at least 6 months, but according to Fort Dodge it can be there up to 8 months--I have no idea how long the 12 month version can stay--and nothing can remove it. The pills ar only in their system a total of 24 to 36 hours. One lady was told if her dog lived 6 months til it was out of his syste4m, he would probably live. He died a few days later. Some of the "survivors" ended up dying in a year or two. One, a pit bull name Ozzy, went from a puppy dog of 2 to an old an after his injection, he never got over and died an "old man" at age 4. This is my Hunter, the last picture taken of him a COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE HIS DIAGOSIS.

I do not know if this will be of any help or not, but here goes. My old male golden developed arthritis in his hips and spine from about mid back down about the time he turned 11. Hi spine actually kind of buckled up and curved some. He was very low getting up and down, but once up, he went at a trot---that old man never did learn dogs were suppose to walk, not trot. Also, he reached the point he could not stretch his rear legs behind him nor roll on his back. He would lean against a door jamb and rub back and forth to scratch his back as best as he could. I had him on osteo-biflex for joints, plus fish oil, vitamin E, EsterC. Well, on an all breed forum one lady was always talking about Knox Nutra Joint Plus. She had severe arthritis and someone told her about it and she started using it and it helped her a lot, so she started giving it to her elderly dog--and it helped him. A few others tried it and posted they say improvment in their dogs. I decided to give it to Buck. Callie said it takes about 3 months to notice a difference. I really had my doubts, but Buck had been on it about 2 1/2 months and one day I saw him stretch his rear legs back a little---for the first time in months. Also he was getting up faster. Huby is a cross country truck driver--even going up into Canada--and I did not think to tell him about Buck's improvment. He came in one day and had only been home a couple of hours when he was shounting to me that Buck had streched his rear legs some. Buck did continue to improve, but about 5 months after I had started him on it, he died in my arms of a heart attack at age 12 yurs. 3 months. We had lost a full brother, different litter, to him several years earlier to heart attack at age 5 years 2 months. I really do not even know if you ave he Knox Nutrajoint down there or not. I get the powdered form at WalMart in the vitamin section--I suppose you have Walmart as I think they are al over the world.

I have never regularly gotten the KC vax for my dogs. However on the rare occasion when I needed to board them for a couple of days--once every year or two--I would get the KC vax before hand. However, even with the vax, I had to sign a paper saying that te dg could still come down a strain of KC and they would not be held responsible for the dog getting sick or for treatment.

I have never fed raw fish to mydogs, but have given them tonsof micro waved filleted speckled sea trout, redfish, and even much coveted flounder and grey snapper. I always worried about bones. Call me a worry wart. However we had an Irish Setter who loved to go fishing with me and I would throw my baiting casting net to catch mullet and bay shrimp---and he would snag a mullet or two and gobble them donw--more or less alive--because he knew I wouldtake them away from im. I lost that old man to bone cancer at age 12 1/2 years back on July 9, l997...and he had been fishing with me the day before.!

are you talking a dark orange-yellow or a brownish? Dark urine scares the pudding out of me. One morning while checking my golden retrievers teeth, I saw the one's gums were pale. I will tell his entire story in a new tyhread, but about the ruine. I called at once to make an appointment with my vet. A short time later, about 2 hours before we were to go to the vet, Hunter went just off the patio instead of his usual place out by the back fence and I saw his urine was the color of slightly rusty water. Long story short, later that day he was diagnose wiht autoimmune hemoltic anemia and I lost hi 8 dyas later. Very dark or brownish color urine can be a sign of AIHA or of an infection, ietc. It is slways best to get the dog checked if urnine does not app normal. As a side note, we had neighbors that adopted a greyhound that was drummed out of racing because she was not good enough. She had some odd name, but when they saw her, they said "Oh, she is a keeper"and theynamed her Keeper. She was a darling.