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No, the copyright remains with the person that took the photo. Even with proffessional photos that you pay for copies of you can not copy it in any form without the permission of the photographer. ieYou pay for the photo not the copyright. I work in photographics and daily have to explian to people that regardless of them owning a photo this does not mean they own the copyright and I can not copy their photos. To do so would leave me ina position of libility as well as the company I work for. ETA Sorry just read the rest of the thread.

I'm so sorry for your loss Benshiva, your tribute to Webster was lovely and brought tears to my eyes, he sounds like he was a truely awesome boy. RIP sweet fella. Look after yourself Benshiva, while the tears may take a long time to dry the pain you feel shows just how lucky he was to be so loved.

What like sending a text, come out come out where ever you are? :rofl:

Thanks for the invite Rubystar, haven't been on DOL for abit so would have missed it. Not sure if we will be in Albany that weekend so will have to check with J but if we're not and we can afford it J and I might be able to come. What is the latest we can get back to you Hortful. ? Will be working full time in November so might not be fit to go anywhere but my bed with a good painkiller and hot water bottle. Still, it means some extra cash for Xmas, so my back better hold out.

J and and I go on a Tuesday night before Agility (when Sarina is available and weather suitable) with Helana Fitzgerald, she is very good and gets the best out of most of the dogs and sometimes their owners. DId try the thursday one years ago when Jenna was small but did not feel I learn't much at it, where as in just a couple of weeks with Helana I feel I have learn't quiet abit. Admitidly I was a bit skeptical about going at first, but as J needed another handler I went and now am looking forward to Helena getting back from overseas so that we can continue. Classes were small too so more individual attention although that might change as the weather gets better. Classes are $12 and start at 7pm.

Love the new signature Mason 2009.

What a beautiful tribute to your lovely Emma, she was a lucky dog to be so loved and it sounds like she brought alot of joy into all the lives she touched. I'm so sorry for you loss, RIP sweet Emma.

Hey, Mirrawee if your putting in a Cleanrun order can I get you to order me something and share the postage?

CC you are so talented - thanks so much for posting the link. I have a little "thank you" for when I next see you and Strauss's breeder is over the moon with the ones I sent her. Mum fell over last night, so today I spent 8 hours in the Emergency Department, she has dislocated and fractured her shoulder. OMG that means I am on cooking duty - oh well good way to lose weight Sorry to here about your Mum Ptolomy, hope she mends quickly and is'nt in too much pain.

What's the saying, "if it sounds too good to be true then it usually is". Gave up waiting for my results submitted months ago, will pay the extra and go with a more reliable company. Great at talking the talk in emails but that is where it stops, should have known with the wait for the test kits, disappointing to say the least..

I am so sorry for your loss Dogslife, Nala and Chantie both sound like they were both very special dogs and your tributes to them were full of the love you felt for them and brought tears to my eyes. I am finding it hard enough to deal with the loss of one of my furkids a few weeks ago I can barely imagine how aweful it must be to loose two so close together, my heart goes out to you and your family at this sad time and I wish I could ease your pain. They were both lucky dogs to have found such a caring and loving family after such a rocky start in life and it is lovely to know that they got to experience that joy in life which we wish every dog could have. RIP Nala and Chantie.

So sorry to hear about Chloe RS, too many good dogs taken lately . Hugs to you and your family at this sad time, she was a lucky girl to end up with such a special family and she must have known that too, to have reached such an awesome age. RIP little Chloe. The pain we feel at their passing can not negaite the years of joy they bring us while their here, I hope you find a little comfort in this poem. LEND ME A PUP I will lend to you for a while, a puppy God said, For you to love while she lives and mourn when she's dead. Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three, But will you, until I call her back, take care of her for me? She'll bring her charms to gladden you and should her stay be brief You'll always have her memories as solace for your grief. I cannot promise she will stay, since all from earth return, But there are lessons taught below I want this pup to learn. I've looked the whole world over in search of teachers true, And from the folk that crowd life's land I have chosen you. Now will you give her all your love, not think the labor vain, Nor hate me when I come to take my puppy home again. And my heart replied “Dear Lord Thy Will be Done” For all the joys this pup will bring, The risk of grief we'll run. We will shelter her with tenderness; we'll love her while we may, And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay. But should you call her, much sooner than we've planned, We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try and understand. If, by our love, we've managed, your wishes to achieve In memory of her sweet, sweet love, please help us while we grieve. And when this cherished puppy departs this world of strife, Please send another needing soul to love for all her life

Take care on the roads going home everyone. PJ's and a cosy bed sound way better than going out and training tonight.

I'm with you Tiggy, sometimes its better not to know. I know I will think nothing of buying a hairbrush that is around $90 for the dogs and then look for a $2 brush for me same goes for shampoos, $30 for dogs, $2 for me. Plus the dogs get a variety of supplements along with their feed whereas if the supplement is for me it is too much to spend. They have umteen toys, blankets crates and beds and yet I still buy more, and I hate to think what I've spent on clubs, trials or show entries. Then add raw feeding which seems to have skyrocketed cost wise .lately I could probabaly go a good holiday with what I spend on the furkids and that isn't including vet bills but for what I get in return I think I get a bargin, unconditional love and companionship plus I have met many wonderful friends because of the dogs and my activities with them so better value than a holiday that would only last a short time anyway.:D Mind you I do wish I controled my spending abit better when it comes to the furkids, well at least until the next time something for them temps me, being on this site I get tempted far too often by what others have bought for their kids and the oh so tempting dog sites like Cleanrun. Destined to be permantly poor.

Thankyou everyone for your kind thoughts and words they are much appriciated. Everyone on here knows how much our dogs mean to us and many have sadly shared the same heartache. GayleK, I know what you mean, I blubbered the whole time I was making the tribute, but I also remembered each day each picture was taken so clearly that it didn't feel like 13 years had passed. I think I needed to do it to help me let go and say goodbye after not being there when Gizmo passed. Each time I think I have cried myself out something small will set me of again but looking back over the week I am handling it a little better each day. With the loss of your beautiful Benson so recent you will know only too well exacly what it is like. I hope it is getting easier for you each day I know how special he was and use to love hearing about his antics. So many friends have been in the same situation recently and too many wonderful dogs have passed lately but I hope they are all enjoying each others company at Rainbow Bridge. I always use to think of Gizzie as a reincarnate of one of my childhood dogs who I was extremly fond off so hopefully if he was perhaps he will come back to me yet again one day. I live in hope and it gives me a little comfort to think this way.

Giz, my little Papillon wasn't a show dog and he had no titles after his name for any performance sports but he was a special little boy who endeared himself to everyone who met him. He lived more than six years longer than the vets expected him to and lived each of those to the fullest especially when he went to DOL get togethers which he loved. He travelled with us to many country dogshows including travelling across Australia with us and always seemed to enjoy having a run with the other dogs. He ruled the roost at home and would not let any of the other furkids direspect him and my Australian Shepherd was his self appointed protector. He wasn't a glamourous Pap, 5 minutes after bathing and grooming him he had the knack of looking dirty and shaggy again. helped by the fact that in his later years he had lost alot of teeth and use to drool abit but he was always beautiful in my eye. Gizmo passed away on Monday while I was at work, if I had known it was to be my last cuddle and goodbye that morning I would never have left that day. It hurts all the more because I wasn't there for him at the end but I know his old mates Brandy and Abbey would be there to meet him at rainbow bridge and they can play together once again. We had 13 wonderful years together and while not nearly long enough I am grateful for the time we had and it makes the pain I feel worth it. RIP my little Angel till we meet again.

Yesterday my beautiful little Gizmo passed away, I was blessed to have him in my life for 13 short wonderful years and another peice of my heart has broken. If I had known the hug I gave him that morning would be my last and my goodbye was to last a lifetime rather than a few hours while I was at work I would have stayed with him for the time we had left. RIP my darling boy, reunited with Brandy and Abby your old mates and meeting up with Whiskey too, I hope they have lots of balls at Rainbow bridge for you and you don't have to pinch them of the big dogs up there. LOVE YOU BABY, the pain I feel is worth it to have had you in my life.

Forgot to mention all three of the Aussies have been on sheep, The Black tri on the right is competing at Masters level in Agility and the other Black Tri at Excellent level, also between them the Black tris dabble in obedience, K9 Freestyle and tracking. The Masters dog is extremly focused when working, the Excellent dog has been spoilt to a large extent by her owner (ME) who goes into meltdown on entering a ring and is doing better under another handler in Agility and waiting for me to relax more with competing in the other activites to finish her legs to titles in obedience and K9 Freestyle. So they are a good breed for a variety of performance sports provided the handler isn't sending the wrong signals.:D

The Australian Shepherds I know love abit of rough play. My girl not having any other big dogs to roughhouse with at home has me as a subsitute, we love to have a wrestle on the bed but if she starts to do zoomies I duck for cover as once she builds up enough speed she will throw her whole body at me shoulder first, all part of the fun though. When she needs to be gentle she is and would get down low to the ground and play gently with my Papillon when he was a pup and she is still very aware of the size difference now and plays accordingly. They are very much a velcro breed and smart beyond believe, anyone who reckons dogs don't have reasoning powers never dealt with an Aussie, mine has outsmarted me more than once. Some Aussies are more high drive than others, my sister and I have three Aussies between us and each has a very different drive and personality, but all are velcro and extremly smart. Those I know also have a very clownish happiness about them, which they use to full effect if their owner is feeling down or if they stuff something up and they want to lighten their owners mood. Unfortunately, this can lead to spoiling them as it is hard to stay mad at a naughty Aussie when it goes out of its way to make you smile.;) My girl is very spoilt and is my heartdog. Reading your requirements you wouldn't be far wrong going for an Australian Shepherd, while many people think they are similar to Border Collies they are apparently very different in nature (Some Aussie breeders have Borders too) and herding style to Borders as well as a different attitude to work/training. The Aussies below had all been swimming and trecking throuh the bush before this picture was taken, they all look alot different when in the showring and groomed up (all Aust Ch), but most of the time they are just family members who like to get out and about and grotty.

Poor Ruby, just been scrollling through trying to find out what had happened to her after reading someones text. Give her hugs from me, she looks so forlorn in this pic.

It is lovely at this time of the year. The water is still quite low but flowing at least. I've never been, would like to though. Think we need a DOL meet there It's pretty rocky and hilly. Sure you're up for it. :p Lol, I panicked the once when Mason went swimming down the river, but there was a lot more water 2 winters ago Sounds like me at one of the early DOL meets I went to up in Kalamunda, when Gizmo jumped into this fast running little stream to swim across to all the DOLers when we where on the other side, while I was looking to cross via a fallen stree stump. Was flowing faster than he could swim, but he just wanted to meet all the DOLers, luckily he's small enough to scoop up.

Honey Gross- Richardson also runs a trainers course Rach, she would probabaly have more experience than those at TAFE, she has been a trainer for at least 36yrs+ and very involved in the dog world. Would know more about what makes a dog tick and behavioural problems and their causes etc than the TAFE people. Good on you for following you dreams.

Hi Chelsea and Quinn, welcome to the WA thread. Quinn is a cutie, I might have purebreds but I still love the crossbreds too especially the working breeds and have owned and loved a Kelpie/HeelerX and a Kelpie/Border Collie X, both were fantastic dogs and I still miss them.

Oh no!!! Hope Boots is OK, give him a cuddle from me and I hope he is all better soon. Maybe he is just jealous of al the attention the ponies are getting with the vet and wanted a turn. Keep us informed if you get the chance.

While we generally count 63 days from mating as the date there are other factors to consider, ie type of mating natural /AI, when fertalization actually takes place etc, this I think is what you are refering to. Some things to consider here are the bitches prog. levels at time of mating and the method of fertilization. The window for mating is different in each case as one you are delivering the semen to the right spot and the other it has to travel. Not really the number of matings that count but working on the right time line in terms of the bitch peaking. Bitches don't always follow the same cycle for peaking either, Jenna has peaked near the end of her cycle, had one mating and had pups and she has peaked less than a week into her cycle and blown my plans out of the water. I would consider 63 days from the first mating as the due date but allow for the fact that they can come as early as the 57th day or later than the 63rd.