lappiemum

that book is fabulous - for breeders and pet owners alike

Everything SwaY said. And I can second that Karen Hedberg is very good - if you can take your puppy there, she knows what she is doing.

Love the pics guys!

there was a gentleman taking pics today of the group and class winners in group 5 - does anyone know where I can find the website with his pics? Ta!

LOL I'll admit that there is some very good competition here in Victoria!! ;) (eta - not that it isn't tough elsewhere - just that vic is where we are!)

it will be a push to match Miss B's successes But I'm rather happy regardless, it seems our breed is getting some attention these days which is wonderful ;)

May I please have a small brag? ;) Ruby, aka Taigakoira Aamuntahti (Morning Star) chalked up her 3rd Baby Puppy in Group today ;) I was rather stoked :D

We shall be there with a couple of naughty lappies & thankfully group 3 is being judged before group 5...LOL

I'm in the working dog group, and for me, fit for purpose should be considered along with type and soundness. They all go hand in hand. I'm probably out on a limb here, but I look at pics of the old GS's and what I see now, and I have diffuculty understanding where that has gone. However, to my eyes, its now more about type, and type, as noted above, can be influenced by fashion, or even just a single dog that did well in the ring. eta - I know in my breed in Finland, there has been a similar argument over 'show' and 'working' lines. Ideally, I would love to think that a 'show' dog in my breed has an aptitude for 'work', but I know that is not always realistic.

I've also used the phenergan a couple of times, on Ruby (Halo's litter sister). The last trip we did (2hrs) she was fine and just slept without anything. With Halo I agree she is probably stressing more about the car than the motion sickness, so it may be necessary to keep up the phenergan for a bit longer, if its having a positive effect. Phenergan is used for children for travel sickness as well. If you are going to use it, administer it a day before you plan to go just to ensure that there is no reaction or anything.

Sorry guys - we at Euroa this Sunday! We will make it back sometime soon though!!

I'm sure she is with her now, and both are happy.

Just thought I would say that we were entered for the Sunday show in the end - which was great, since my baby puppy bitch managed BPIG for group 5 :p Very happy with that result! LOL

How strange - only got the Sat set, and so did my friend - although she sent everything in the one envelope! if we've goofed on something (and I'm not sure how - both sat and sun were the same) I thought it was returned to you.

Hey DOLers - not sure if anyone here is doing the Colac shows this weekend, but a friend of mine and I have yet to receive our Sun numbers - if anyone is doing the Sunday, have you got numbers yet? I have the Sat numbers, and that cheque was cashed, but the Sunday cheque (sent at the same time) hasn't been drawn. I know its two different kennel clubs, so maybe one is a bit slow with their banking. Anyway, I have left a message for the Show Sec, but I would imagine she'd be rather busy at the moment!

glad I looked in here - didn't know it was reverse order! Group 5 means we need to be up there the day before I think!

we shall be there, so you better come over to the Lappie people!!

I went to the council chambers today and spoke with the manager in this department. He said that our circumstances would not be considered exceptional as there a large number of defence families moving to the area every year and that they are rejecting the majority of these claims now as a way to 'discourage people from dog ownership as Palmerston has an epidemic of dogs'. Palmerston council and Darwin Council are separate and have different by laws re dog ownership. Sheesh - what an unhelpful attitude. Obviously not a dog friendly council (remind me not to move there!). I assume that you are in defence housing and that moving is not an option? If so, I think the visiting pooch plan is the best way to go.

I think there are other reasons she hasn't been on. Spitz thread is usually quite a friendly place! :D eta - there was a bit of contraversy regarding a thread on a training school, so I am assuming that is related to it.

FYI in case people haven't already seen this - UK Kennel Club's health Committee's Annual report (for the full report see http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/download/1...lreport2010.pdf ) has some interesting reading, although I'm struggling a bit with the robustness of some of their statistical 'analysis'. Link to the article below is at http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/3671/23/5/3 - while it is in the UK, its worth a read as we known that many of these discussions are happening here, and I'm sure our legislators are looking to what is happening overseas. Dog Health Group's first Annual Report 19-Apr-11 The Kennel Club’s Dog Health Group has published its first annual report which details the continuing progress that is being made towards improving pedigree dog health. Dog Health Group Annual Report 2010 The Dog Health Group has been tasked with ensuring that dogs are bred to enjoy healthy, happy lives. Its work includes continually updating the Kennel Club Accredited Breeder Scheme so that dogs are bred responsibly and well, and researching and monitoring the health of dogs so that the relevant tests and tools can be developed to help combat certain conditions. It also involves ensuring that dog showing and judging is a positive force for change. Caroline Kisko, Kennel Club Secretary, said: “The Dog Health Group plays a seminal role in influencing Kennel Club policy and guiding the health projects with which it gets involved, so that it can ensure the best outcome for dogs. The Group is made up of – and works closely with – breeders, human and dog geneticists and veterinary surgeons. “Over the last year our priorities have been to make changes to ensure that our Accredited Breeder Scheme is more robust than ever, so that puppy buyers have confidence about who to buy from and that dog shows only reward healthy dogs in the show ring. We have also continued to invest in the life-saving work and research that is being carried out at the Kennel Club’s Canine Genetics Centre at the Animal Health Trust and developed new strategies to continually improve genetic diversity.” Some of the achievements in 2010, which have been agreed by the Dog Health Group and its three subgroups, are: GENETICS •Significant investment into groundbreaking work at the Kennel Club’s Canine Genetics Centre at the Animal Health Trust, whose molecular geneticists work with breeders, vets and scientists to identify dog diseases and develop DNA tests to help combat them. There are more than 30 DNA tests so far. •Development of Mate Select, a revolutionary online system that will enable breeders to plan their breeding programmes according to the impact that it will have on genetic diversity. It will also give breeders and potential puppy buyer’s access to available health information for every Kennel Club registered dog. •Broadening of the Breed Register to accept dogs of impure or unverified origin, in order to expand genetic diversity. •Reduction of the lifetime limit of litters registered per bitch to four, effective from 1 January 2012. Under the Breeding and the Sale of Dogs Act 1999 a maximum of 6 litters per bitch is allowed. BREEDING •Work towards UKAS accreditation of the KC Accredited Breeder Scheme, as recommended in the Bateson Report. •Formalising of important rules, which although already implicit in the scheme, to ensure that the scheme is as robust as possible. These include requirements that no mating should take place if health tests indicate that it is inadvisable to do so and that breeders should microchip puppies prior to sale. •Continually appointing Regional Breeder Advisors throughout the country who ensure that the rules of the scheme are upheld by its members. SHOWING AND CONFORMATION •Introduction of veterinary assessments for the fourteen high profile breeds, which have been identified as being more prone to suffer from certain health issues, at dog shows from 2012. Dogs will need to pass these veterinary assessments before their champion status or Best of Breed awards are confirmed to ensure that only healthy dogs win top awards. In addition to the steps above the Kennel Club has produced a detailed guide for veterinary surgeons to enhance their understanding of each breed and the health tests that are required and recommended. This is a central plank of the Kennel Club’s strategy, helping to ensure that puppy buyers get solid advice on the ground, from the experts that they know and trust. ENDS [126.11] 19th April 2011 Notes to Editors The Kennel Club’s Dog Health Group was established in January 2010, to replace and expand the remit of the Breed Health and Welfare Strategy Group. Other actions taken by the Dog Health Group include: Breeding •8 new breed specific requirements have been added to an already substantial list and 4 clinical health tests. A further 46 breed specific recommendations were approved. Showing and conformation •A continued education programme for judges so that they realise the key role that they play in ensuring that dog shows only reward healthy dogs. •Breed Health Coordinators have been appointed in each breed, with whom the Kennel Club engages about key health issues within their breed. •The Kennel Club keeps a keen eye on the health of breeds, taking feedback from those who are on the front line. Judges of high profile breeds are now required to submit Breed Health Monitoring reports to the Kennel Club, with their assessment of the breed’s health. An interactive tool, Breed Watch, has also been introduced to the Kennel Club website, enabling breed clubs, judges and health coordinators to input issues that they note within breeds to alert judges and breeders to health concerns and tendencies towards conformational exaggerations.

Not everyone wants a main registered dog to show. Unless you want to show its limited from me.

No. Because I don't 'guarantee' a BIS winner - only that at 8 - 10weeks I believe this pup has show potential.

What they all said. And the finance to pay for it

Lappies tend to get on very well with other breeds, and are very trainable. If bought up with cats they are fine. Depends on whether you want a long coated breed, imo they aren't a problem maintanence wise, but if you desex too early the coat can be soft and dense which is a pain in the butt to deal with. Lappies are not as drivey as many other working breeds, but you can and do get some variations in terms of that drive. I have 2 high drive, one moderate and one low drive lappie - but all have that lovely 'off' switch Just another breed to add to your research list

Thanks for your comments guys - there's a bit for us to consider here! LOL For us, if we can fit 4 lappies, gazebo and a show trolley in there somewhere I'd be over the moon! LOL