LizT

I'm wondering, with permission from those concerned of course, whether this should be 'pinned' somewhere...to serve as an education point for those who drop into DOL for a look, when considering buying a puppy and just maybe think it would be okay to get a "cheaper dog" from elsewhere (as I myself have done in the past).

I heard recently that part of the flooding was due to a Vege Farmer having allegedly put in an unpermitted drain that allowed his water to go off his property and on to the Park?? Not sure if this is true but apparently it has since been rectified.

Bailey, you put up a good fight...but the fight was never going to be a fair one. For those that loved him just know what Bailey knew, that every day he spent with you he knew he was loved.

So sad to hear of this outcome for poor Bailey. Our hearts do indeed go out to you and your family. Dancinbc, hard for you too, as I think you were hoping to be wrong, but had to wait with heavy heart as time passed for test results to confirm what you knew in most likelyhood correct about the prognosis with this poor puppy. As a Border breeder it must be so hard to see this, a family suffering something that could be avoided. Run free little Bailey,

Yes, I've heard a few negative things about Scourban too. I have found a fast followed by the chicken & rice to be most reliable. It seems to always takes a few days before the digestive system kicks back in to produce any waste.

Six weeks old. :) Just back from the Veterninary Opthalmologist and pups and mum are all Eye Clear!

From my limited knowledge of the case, I believe most were small...Maltese and it was not the owner but a relative of the owner who caused this to happen. The dogs were well cared for.The owners are older people but well able to care for the dogs. There is a pound in Gloucester and a rescue at Taree,if it was considerd the dogs had to be moved.But that is the issue that is in need of clarification as it seems this was done without the owners consent who is now most distressed. More effort should have been made to ensure this is what the actual owner wanted, but then the owner should have been counselled about whether the dogs could have been placed with rescue and been rehomed.Death should not have been the first alternative or only alternative.Plus the method of putting them down was disgusting. There is a local vet close by. Less effort and travelling time for the ranger,so why he made the decision he did is beyond me. I find the whole scenario very disteressing and cannot imagine how the poor dogs must have been feeling, they would have been severely distressed too. The community up there is very upset, as well they should be. Gosh, Honeybun, if this is true, I find the circumstances under which these dogs were decided to be PTS slightly more distressing than the dogs being shot!

He'd want to hope he has a firearms licence as it is not even legal to hold a gun for a shooter, say if he was going through a fence UNLESS you yourself have a firearms licence too. But yes, why are things always "under review" when they get caught out or brought beforet he Publics attention?

Yes. A refund would be more appropriate I feel.

I know how you feel its just so sad when you try so hard to keep them going I lost two out of a litter about 3 years ago one little girl was small and I tried for two weeks to save her but in the end she was just too weak - but it sure tears your heart out - I don't know how many times I have thought never again but we still do it - perhaps its because of all the love we can give to others by letting them have a beautiful puppy reared with love and care to give them years of happiness. Your post has brought tears to my eyes so hope your little ones that you still have grow to be beautiful pups that give you and others much joy. Yes, draw your strength from the love you will be getting from the remaining puppies and the look of love of the faces of their new owners when they first make eye contact with your babies.

I'm sure the odds would be that a sibling is also likely to either carry or have the condition if Bailey has it. I'm sure Dancinbcs or another BC breeder will be able to clarify this for you soon.

I was so hoping he would stay well until you got the test result and it is frustrating that this is happening in the middle of the testing being moved. Hopefully you will get a result soon so you know where you are at. Sadly the re-occurence is again so typical of TNS. I emailed the University and hopefully the results will be available by the end of the week. The 1st stage of testing is complete and they are working through the 2nd stage now. In reality though, it isn't going to change much, we are just going to know that his days are numbered. At the moment he seems to be rather miserable, and it is sooo hard to see him like this. If he hasn't improved by tomorrow, we will have to look at having him PTS. A wise decision I think, even if it is a heartbreaking one but it would be easier to make that decision if you had a definitive answer. Whatever is wrong, it is clearly something very serious and no puppy owner should be put through a nightmare like this at a time that should be so happy. For you to even be able to say it out loud (so to speak) says to me that the poor little fellow is so lucky he landed in your lap, despite it being far from lucky for you all. Knowing that you have done all you can, despite what outcome prevails. Our kindest, best thoughts are with you and your family (including little Bailey of course) at what has been a most difficult time. Having to watch a playful puppy turn ill so drastically must be one of pet ownerships worst fears.

So sorry to hear this. I hope for Bailey sake they can get to the bottom of it soon.

Without knowing the breed and history of the dogs we can't say that no attempt was made for rehoming, they may well have been a restricted breed for all the information we have. The point is we also do not know if this is common practice or a "once off" either. We DO know that these dogs deserved a better ending.

Same. :laugh:

Me too EI. had a bit of a giggle :laugh: The joys of the English language. Puppy eating Poo. or a Poo eating puppy. Both correct, both open to mis understandings. :laugh:

Copropagla or "poo eating" is a common problem with some dogs and is also most frustrating. I have two poo eaters and it seems they only do it indoors and not in the garden. If they poos indoors they will quickly try to clean it up! There are a number of remedies on the net and I personally found adding pineapple pieces to their food made the stools unpalatable and stopped the eating...for a while (weeks). After some time they decided it was not so bad after all. So I gave that up and now it's keeping an eagle eye on them. I have also heard that mashed pumkin added to the food has the same effect. I might try that but I am fortunate that when they go outdoors they leave it on the lawn. I personally feel if they have an accident indoors (which doesn't happen unless OH calls them in too soon! ) they seem to want to clean up the den.

I read ths recently and some may find it interesting. I always thought letting my kids get "down and dirty" with my pet was the best thing for them! :) I came upon an article regarding asthma. As you might know, this condition affects millions of people, especially children. This article focused on a virus called RSV which is transmitted easily between people and young children in particular. Many people who contract RSV as children or infants have a significantly higher chance of developing asthma later in life. Recently, scientists have been researching the proposed health benefits of having pets, and what they found is a big deal. Dog dander, that mixture of loose fur and skin cells typically blamed for allergies, might contain a structure that actually helps combat RSV! Just when we thought our dogs couldn't be any more awesome, we find that they can actually benefit our respiratory health. Way to go, Fido! For more information on what the scientists found, check out this link. Go to: http://www.petplace.com/dogs/new-studies-show-that-homes-with-dogs-have-fewer-kids-with-asthma/page1.aspx It's not uncommon for a person's love of animals to override their dislike of sniffling and sneezing. You might even be one of these people. Quite a few people choose to add a canine family member despite being allergic to them. Others find that they are allergic only after already bringing their dog into their new home. What can you do if you are allergic to your dog? Thankfully, many homes have managed to make it work. Allergies are no fun but it's doesn't immediately mean that you will need to find a new home for your dog.

Welcome to DOL and congratulations on your new puppy. :) You have been given some good advice so far so I won't say much more at this stage other than I too have been converted to crate/pen training and that 16 weeks is old enough to start Obedience training, once your puppy has settled in to your home of course. The sooner the better IMO, it will be "age appropriate" for your new puppy. Enjoy. :)

Do they advertise their purebred pups on DOL?

People like that just give us "Bogans" a bad name...walks off in a huff wearing her Sunday best tracky dacks, flanney, hoodie and Uggs.

Poor sweet baby....run free with your sister and play puppy games forever. Sorry for your loss RoseRed...it's hard being a breeder isn't it.

Terrific. Congratulations!

Yes, just becuase they "used to" club them on the head and throw them in a ditch doesn't mean that practise is still acceptable. Who said anything about clubbing anything on the head I was talking about lethal injections being used by approved staff who were trained by the visiting vets. I don't see any reason that a council officer couldn't be trained the same way. No, you didn't. I was off in my own thoughts about what may have been "normal practise" for some, and wondered if this (the shooting and dumping) was a regular incident for this particualr council, only this time highlighted by a member of the public. Then my OH said to me that once apon a time it was normal practice to "club them on the head and dump them in a tip". Let's hope no one does that nowadays either. And, yes, it would be great if they could train council officers to do such or at least employ say a veterninary nurse or animal technician to do so.